3459:, start with a normal 2-D vector space with a Euclidean metric. Start with the normal orthogonormal xây basis, and express some fixed vector in terms of that basis. Then choose another basis that varies in the obvious ways: increase the length of the basis vectors, and find the coefficients required to express the fixed vector. Find the dual basis: those (co)vectors that when dotted with the basis in every combination produce the identity matrix. Use it to find the coefficients of the fixed vector. Change the angle of one of the basis vectors. See how the covector basis changes, and how the fixed vector's coefficients change for the new basis. If you're feeling energetic, play with three dimensions, though you'll get the idea from 2-D. Then play with a space with a
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matched by the same rotation, in the same direction, of the dual basis. Any collective scaling of the basis is matched by an inverse scaling of the dual basis. Any distortion of the basis (e.g. a scaling on one axis) is matched by the inverse distortion (an inverse scaling on the same axis), so if the angle between two basis vectors is reduced, the angle between duals increases. As to overlap between the basis and its dual, this occurs with an othonormal basis and its dual in a
Euclidian space. It never occurs for an indefinite or a negative definite metric. In these cases, you can still get the dual being identical to the basis except for the appropriate number of its vectors being of the opposite sign. It is usual (at least in physics) to broaden the term
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Multiplying this by the unit vector will produce the unit again (p=1), but so it will for any covector corresponding to a vector with a length inverse to the cosine of the angle between it and the unit vector. Now I'm assuming that the failure of an inner product to support vector-covector identification on its own boils down to the lack of definition of length - Without an explicit map between vectors and covectors, i.e. a metric, I can't be sure that any vector corresponds to a covector, and thus I can't raise or lower an index.
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And for any metric, the mapping of two vectors to a scalar is equivalent to defining a covector for the scalar, because in every basis the components have to satisfy the inner product (cancel) through regular matrix multiplication. If we have the vector in one basis, we can find the covector, but we don't need to find the covector every time, because the inverse relationship of the transformation law lets us know what form that covector will take if we forget about it while we manipulate the basis of the vector. á
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2396:. Maybe I'm not interpreting the coefficient in the transformation law properly, because I see this as conflicting with the idea that tensors are independent of their choice of basis, the very fact I'm trying to illustrate with my proposed parallel. Or is that why you're pointing out that raising and lowering an index is linear? That it's a correspondence between vector and covector, but not the notion of covector-vector duality I'm looking for? á
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coefficients is immaterial. In a metric space, whether this is called covariant or contravariant becomes moot; the terms now only have significance with respect to what you label as your "vector" basis. You could just as easily use the vectors of your covector basis as your vectors with no effect. The only importance of having two bases of this nature then is to express the metric of the space.
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2795:, the metric is like the transition map between them, making them into a manifold where change of covariant basis eventually overlaps with change of contravariant basis. I don't know if they really overlap, but I'm trying to make a logical continuity between change of basis inside each space and change of basis between spaces.
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I'll try to sketch typical transformations of the basis in a metric space. Imagine you have a vector basis and its covector dual. Being in a metric space allows us to refer to rotation, angles and length. Also, we can picture both the bases in the same space. Any collective rotation of the basis is
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Because a space of one-forms is a vector space, the dual to the all-covariant tensor should be the same as looking at the all-covariant tensor as an all-contravariant tensor in the dual space - each covariant index is contravariant relative to the dual space. So, if you represented each contravariant
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I followed for treating VĂV as VĂV after the metric, but not that the product of those two spaces is treated as if no complexity was added by the product. You allow a higher order of object, (1,1) tensors, but the (1,0) & (0,1) objects aren't orthogonal sets. They're redundant images of the same
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Okay, so you can take that unique map, and take a covector and multiply it by a vector twice. The first application of the vector will cancel the stretching of the components performed by the change of basis, and the second will, in all, turn the covector into a vector. However, because we don't yet
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gave differing pronunciations, and I'd rather not mix and match the pronunciations you guys offered. Since Nora hasn't been around for a couple years, I was hoping you could show me in this table how you'd render these names and patronymics in IPA. That would give me a simple and consistent list to
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The easy questions first: Isolating the coefficients of a tensor with respect to a specific basis can be done via the dot product with each dual basis vector (this can be done for any basis, for a tensor of any order, with any mix of covariant and contravariant factor spaces). Anyhow, it should be
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is replaced by a linear transformation (a matrix, and hence its inverse for transforming the coefficients). There is nothing magical about a dual basis any more than there is for an orthonormal basis: any basis for the dual space would do, regardless of what basis we use for the vector space. But
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To identify them based on the scalar they produce by combination, we have to cancel out the effect their lengths have on the
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By the way, I don't suppose it's surprising that a person who (a) describes himself as liking to learn and think about languages should also (b) be intrigued by isomorphism. At least that's the way it appears to this correspondent who loves learning and thinking about languages and is intriuged by
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Going on this I imagine raising and lowering indices as looking at pieces of an same object being pushed through a door between the collective vector and dual spaces, and when all the pieces are to one side or the other it looks the same from that side of the door (the two products of all non-dual
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Right, like when they change basis and none of the vectors change relative angle or distance, the dual basis sees no inverse effect. Taking the dual transmits contextual information, so it wouldn't be well-defined for taking the dual of any single object. So if I have two vectors, is there an n-2
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depending on the basis, but once used as coefficients for their respective basis, the objects should be the same again. Plus, I'm not sure if this fits with a tensor space as a product space, unless the product with the dual space is itself once they have a metric, not just that the space and its
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I'm a little lost by your comment about a product space; the tensor space of a given order is not closed under any product, if that us what you're talking about. The order of the tensor product is the sum of the orders; contraction reduces the order by 2. So the two products of vectors are the
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I'm not too sure what you mean by active and passive transformations. As far as I'm concerned, changes between bases is not doing anything to the object you are transforming the components of: you are still representing the same object; what basis you choose to do so in terms of with a set of
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and the fact that usually there is no need to be clear whether this is being used, and you can even mix them freely if desired. They even look identical, except for a subtle indicator such as the use of Latin vs. Greek indices. The down side is potential confusion if you do not know which is
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and then applying a rotation will show the contravariant component moving against the rotation, and the covariant component moving in advance of the rotation (or is it equal?), but when you raise the index again it will be the same as if the rotation was applied with both indices contravariant
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multiplied (via tensor product) with the term, and duplication of an abstract index implies contraction, not summation. Because the notation is so well-behaved, one generally does not have to worry whether an equation is as per
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p is the vector I expect from combination with the corresponding covector, then I've found my covector. I'm saying my fallacy was that multiple combinations of vector and covector can produce the same scalar. Take for example the dot product over a unit vector and its corresponding covector.
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to the transcription list? My authority for stating that this is a modern, scholarly way of representing /ø:/ in Old Norse is Terje
Spurkland: "Innføring i norrønt sprük", Universitetsforlaget, 9th edition (2007). This is the standard textbook in Old Norse at the University of Oslo. From a
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If there's no sense of a vector in a basis corresponding to a covector in its dual basis, how can we say that changing to the dual basis is a passive transformation? I can understand if the co/vector is essentially untyped in a metric space, and only has covariant or contravariant
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The basis overlap comment wasn't about an overlap between the basis and its dual basis, but an overlap in the set of bases for the spaces once the spaces are unified, so that change from covariant to contravariant basis is the same as some strictly covariant change of basis. á
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This feels a little odd, each basis vector having its specific counterpart covector in the dual basis, yet there is no such thing as duality of standalone vectors in this sense. Also not to be confused with a myriad independent senses in which the term "dual" is used.
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If you want to undo the edit you can click "View history", then click on "00:22 5 December 2011, then click on "Edit" and then on "Save page". (Unless I have misunderstood what you wanted or the wiki software has been changed in some way I am not aware of.) - Haukur
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know the lengths of the two vectors, the cancellation of the change of basis coefficients is not a property of a specific combination of a covector and vector, but will work for any of them - that they cancel does not identify the vector with the covector.
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If you have enough context to take the dual of the basis, why couldn't you piggyback the vector or covector onto the basis when you take the dual? If the operation's fully determined for a basis, it should be fully determined for a vector in a known
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that is induced by the metric. It is so natural once we have the metric, we can treat the two spaces as the same vector space. In this sense the process becomes passive: we are simply choosing which basis we are expressing our tensor in terms of:
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I don't see what the metric is doing that allows you to still use the covariance and contravariance that specifies which space contributed an object, while treating the spaces as indistinct by making the phenomenon of contravariance and covariance
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It is not the object that is covariant or contravariant; it is the basis and the coefficients. Although, without a metric, there seems to be a definite difference in what you can do with objects from the vector or covector space. To learn about
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index by a vector, the covariant version would be that same set of vectors in the dual space. And vice versa - the level set representation of each covariant component is the same after taking the dual tensor and observing it in the dual space.
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The covariance and contravariance, when you have a metric, is still mathematically convenient, even though it is no longer necessary. It saves having to remember when to negate the square of a component. This convenience applies in
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I see you've recently made changes to collapse(topology). If t is a face of s, t has already two cofaces if t and s are distinct. Should the definition read t is a free face os s if t and s are the only cofaces of t in the complex?
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I think the answer to your question is that there is no one-to-one vectorâcovector duality; the duality is only between the vector spaces as a whole. The raising and lowering of indices is entirely related to a natural mapping
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Each vector in the vector basis provides a one-D constraint on each of the dual vectors, producing a "flat" hyperslice oc covectors. The mapping must be either to 1 or to 0. So the first vector constrains each covector to an
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revert my edit. I'd also like to thank you for your outstanding work on the Old Norse article, it's good that
Anglophones take an interest in the classical form of the Nordic languages, as we sadly neglect it ourselves.
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dimensional subspace that can be the dual of the set of vectors, or maybe it reduces each vector's corresponding covector subspace separately? Do we know the shape the subspace will have for some set of vectors?
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Where can I learn to take a dual basis? Useful is one thing, but I don't see how it still exists. The covariant and contravariant objects are the same, yet they can still be distinguished by that property. á
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It's no big deal. Thanks for being swell and reasonable. Also I'd like to say that the tables on the Old Norse page are a bit old and misrepresentative to various degrees. I'm trying to make replacements on
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Okay, I just out about the swapping of upper and lower index between abstract index notation and Einstein notation, so the basis decomposition formulae are more consistent with my understanding of linear
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Well, Einar Haugen conspicuously refrained from endorsing any Thorodd theory, so I strongly doubted that it could be the clear mainstream scholarly consensus unless there was some recent discovery...
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s in *fefall and *sat respectively. I also changed the separate links of causative weak verb to a section link, which gives exact forms for reconstructions and the umlauting suffix. Note that the
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when we have a metric seem to be kept separate for formal reasons, but indices are raised and lowered without thinking in general, usually considering it as the same tensor. â
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I removed it because the "Old Norse alphabet" doesn't exist. But I didn't take into account the consonants, so I'll put it back up until the consonant tables are created. á
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G'day, I've noticed that you're quite active on Old Norse articles, so I thought you might be interested in this template. Feel free to add, remove, or rearrange things.
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idea of the consonants and the Latin graphemes that were used to represent them. This is not covered anywhere else in the article â only vowels are covered. Thanks,
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is doing is what you'd expect from this notation with normal vectors: you are performing a projection (and a scaling), thus losing most of the information about
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Now, I still have some issues of notational clarity. You're saying that in Einstein notation, choosing an index is choosing a basis? So the vector is by itself
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Alrighty, then. If you have any suggestions on how I could word that better, please let me know, or just clarify the text yourself.
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