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talk page with him. Before starting this topic in the talk page, I had already seen other people complaining about him and when I checked the history logs I saw that he reverted every edit that didn't fit in his narrative, but I still tried talking with him. It turns out he literally does not approve any of the sources I provided, using random excuses he can find to try and invalidate them. He then proceeded to ask for more "peer reviewed scholarship on this topic" and I agreed, giving him more of what he wanted. Guess what? He started invalidating them left and right. Throughout the discussion he also provided some sources, but when you read them they do not mention any of his claims. I really need help as I do not know what to do. Any edit I make he will revert it. He even reverted one of my previous edits that had multiple well known sources!

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gave it as "Fausianus", with a pointer to this inscription. It was only after I looked at a couple of manuscript consul lists -- the Chronology of 354 & Hydatius' -- that I saw a split there too. (For the record, there are a number of rare or unusual names that later scribes "corrected" to more familiar forms, so the number of instances isn't as decisive as it might seem. If there was enough to create an article about the consul, this matter might be worth discussing.) So is his name actually "Faustianus" & the contemporary inscription a mistake (which happens), or is it "Fausianus" & later lists erred by correcting it to a more familiar form (which also happens)? I honestly don't know. In any case, there is good reason to record it as "Fausianus" until further inscriptions remove all doubt. --

592:"Faustus" and related names are quite common throughout Imperial times, but "Fausi-" turns up only three inscriptions, and in none of these cases is it clear both that it was a name, and what the correct form of the name would have been, from which I conclude that "Fausianus" is not even remotely probable; i.e. there is no evidence that was ever a name, and even the existence of another name from which it could have been derived is doubtful. If a few examples turned up, they could still be misspellings for "Faustianus", but I cannot even find any examples that could be such a mistake. However, I will defer to your judgment—you're a better scholar than I am eight days out of the week. 2747: 2840: 2195: 2008: 2001: 1511: 2524:-- that was the work of Paul Lester Stenhouse -- Pankhurst contributed explanatory footnotes to that translation. (I suspect Pankhurst reviewed the translation & made suggestions.) Since Pankhurst's name is better known than Stenhouse's, that was likely the first name that came to his mind.I also have a copy of Huntingford's work, but don't remember any such statement about the Bet Israel. Can you provide a page number? -- 2785:. Pre-registration is preferred but not required. Members of the public are invited to come to the museum to learn about the editing process, its history, its impact, and how to do it. We aim to collaboratively edit/enter Jewish women artists into the canon. An experienced regional Wikipedian will provided will be on site to teach, support, and guide the process. Participants can select artists ahead of time or on site. 2297: 1727: 1462: 915: 371: 2575:, as opposed to his own opinion. However, I do have a copy of Stenhouse's translation, & that is accurately quoted in the article. Therefore I'm siding with that quotation. As for the difference between "subjected" & "enslaved", I don't know enough about Highland Ethiopian culture to elucidate the nuances between forms of involuntary servitude; the Beta Israel may have been considered slaves, or as 2667: 2328: 1344: 1637: 1293: 2016: 142: 1127: 2790: 135: 2202: 2922: 1100:"Sultanate of Dewe" which was also deleted, but it appears that the history of that article was lost when a page was copied over the existing redirect.My guess is that whoever created the article is no longer active on Knowledge (XXG). There were a lot of transient accounts contributing to Ethiopian topics back then -- & probably still are. -- 730:

that inscription, & likely have matched the name to another consul ordinarius. (One of the related websites date it to the last quarter of the 3rd century, later than Nummius Fausinus' term holding the fasces.) There are many cruces in ancient history, & we are quibbling over a couple I doubt either of us know enough to solve. --

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He did that again by the way. Now he wrote that Christianisation of Amhara begin in the late Aksum empire period. Now not only that he deleted stuff from the page but add other stuff based on his own agenda/mind. Users such as Dawit S Gondaria used to check him but now since he got blocked few months

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That is a good question. As an admin, I could look at the deleted article's history & the earliest version has my username on it, with the comment "moved text; no guarrantees made about its reliability". So it had been created with another subject name I looked for the most likely previous name,

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And what is your intent here, anonymous commentator? To improve Knowledge (XXG), or to prove you're smarter than me for some reason I can't fathom? My intent with my edits was to show that the experts differ on his name -- & they have good reasons for that. Nothing more. I figure they know about

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article. The topic is about the Christianization of the Amharas. I stated in the article that the christianization started in the 4th century with Emperor Ezana and added reliable sources. For some reason my edit was reverted by "Socialwave597" without a good explanation and so I decided to start a

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makes no such claim; it only states that some had converted to Islam. The doctoral paper which cites this passage as proof misrepresents what the text actually says. (Mistakes like this occasionally happen in scholarly works, while not invalidating the central thesis of the work.) I don't know why

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My note was only intended at completeness. It all started when I noticed an earlier list of consuls (Liebenam) called him "Faustinianus"; I then turned to Cooley (who is often cited in that list) & she gave his name "Fausianus"; seeking a third authoritarian opinion, I turned to Degrassi, who

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G.W.B Huntingford in his book the “Geography of Ethiopia” (page 133) also wrote that the according to the fruth-Al Habesha primary source the Falasha of semein were serfs of the people of Bahr Amaba. There is a different between serfs and slaves. You have both notable scholars (G.W.B Huntingford

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Saw your edit and note at LoRC. Perhaps this is too close to OR, but I note that the cited inscription is assumed to be missing a 't' that would have been part of the name. A search for "Faustian-" in the C-S Datenbank reveals 83 inscriptions in which this string occurs, and 0 with "Fausian-";

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helped by a redirect back to the article about the woreda it is located in. This is emphasized by a bit of research with Google. Although woredas are often named for their administrative centers, a Google search shows this woreda is not known by the name the CSA gave its chief town, but by an

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of Tekla Haymanot, which describes his encounters & conversion of a number of them; Christianity came late to many parts of the Highlands that are firmly Christian today, such as Gojjam. So not only is it rash to assume all of the people in that region had embraced Christianity, it is

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or the Imam Ahmad Gragn. Although the quotation does contain some information about the Beta Israel. and Ullendorff is very much a reliable source, that quotation makes no sense where it appears. If you mean another article, it would help greatly if you were to link to that article. --

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what the difference was & they said there was none -- which does not explain their comments on their edits. Right now I'm at work & without access to my library, otherwise I'd have a good look at the article & see if I can't draft some kind of compromise version. --

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Hi, are you here? I’m right or wrong? Because Edward Ullendorff wrote “subjected” and “employed” nothing about “enslaved”. So my only question is which is the right translation? I believe that Edward Ullendorff is. I take big offensive of that. Can you just help in that?

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Someone removed the writing that Amhara are the heirs of Aksum empire. The person that removed it was with Arabic user name. He recently changed it to English. Sorry, I just don’t know who more to connect since you are both administrator and editor of Ethiopian pages

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alternative name for the town, "Kombolcha". I found out more about this town by searching on the name "Melka Rafu" than the string "Kombolcha Oromia".I would say that at this point instead of insisting on strictly following process, you need to prove why process

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Depends which areas in Gojjam you are talking about. East Gojjam was Christianised relatively early. West Gojjam in the other hand became predominantly Christian only after the centre of the empire moved from Shewa to the area of lake Tana.

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P.S: even if you read G.W.B Huntingford book; “The Geography of Ethiopia” he wrote that fruth suggest that the Beta israel of semein were serfs for the people id Tselemt (where G.W.B Huntingford believes that Bahr Amba was located).

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ago as due to be accused of personal insults no one is checking him anymore. He doing whatever he wish. The name of that user is Socialwave597. He used to had an Arabic user name but he changed it to English a short while ago.

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I have read the Knowledge (XXG) page of the dictator Mengistu Haile Maryam and I think there is false information regarding what is written under the category of his early life; when it mention his background/family.

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Hey Llywrch, I saw your post on my page (back in 2017!). Yes, I'm inactive on Knowledge (XXG), but it was a blast writing and editing articles with you! Maybe there will be some time in the future that I'll return.

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Edward Ullendorf source have the correct translation. He have both the text in Arabic and then the translation in English. Do you understand what mean? That user, social, is editing stuff based on his own head.

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you were contacted as the creator of the article, yet you said you were not the creator. If you aren't the creator, who was? BTW, I was the one that flagged it as a hoax. I saw the references seemed fishy.

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as they are getting really long. it says in the heading: This article may be too long to read and navigate comfortably. Consider splitting content into sub-articles, condensing it, or adding subheadings.

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Oh dear, the inscription says: consul ordinarius. How many consuls of that name do you think were consul ordinarius? There are actually two errors in the inscription. Sounds funny, but that's how it is.

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would have to have made two mistakes, not one, which is tending towards special pleading. Unless you can find a reliable source that not only identifies the two but also plausibly explains the errors. --

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Didn’t you read the source that I sent? Edward Ullendorff translated the fruth Al-Habesh word for word. He even had the Arabic version above the English translation. I thought that you already saw it.

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you insist on this unfounded claim -- as well as insisting that footnotes should not be combined. (P.S. The ethos website is offline for some reason so I can't confirm what Merid Aregay states.) --

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I'm here. I don't have immediate access to the book you cite from to determine the context, but from the way you quote Ullendorff I'm not convinced that it is a translation of an excerpt from the

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A lot of unsourced stuff and an "It seems safe to infer". I got there looking for a legitimate date for when it became a city. which says 3000BC, which isn't in the article for the city.\

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No. Knowledge (XXG)'s deletion processes are based on enumerated criteria, not individual admins' views as to what is "common sense". And redirects do not exist solely to be linked to.

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Maybe. I know I post there under this same username, & have commented on a variety of items on that website for at least a couple of years. Can you be a little more specific? --

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Otherwise he would have had to have actually read both (instead of assuming one of the older version was just wrong), recognised there was a legitimate disagreement, consulted

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I consider that a good-faith mistake, especially since that statement was in the edit summary. I own a copy of the book in question: although Pankhurst did not translate the

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Someone is damaging the page of the Yejju. Deleting well established scholarship sources and he/they just typing there whatever they want. The name of the user is Abrasax123

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The redirect did nothing more than point back to the one article linked to it; there was nothing to delink. So common sense is not a valid reason to delete a redirect? --

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Sorry for the delay in responding. I meant to reply Thursday night here, but it slipped my mind & I only started checking my references on hand tonight. Anyway, my

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Hi, can you re-edit the page of Emperor Tewodros II? A lot of important information got removed from there including Tewodros mother origin. This is misinformation.

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You are correct. Can you help in this and just confirm? And for some reason I think that he is lying and that Richard pankhurst did not even give that translation.

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According to the Ethiopian chronics Tewodros mother was from Noble family in Gondar. The only source that mentioned her from Amhara sayint is from Hormuzd Rassam.

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I’m talking about the translation. I have reason to believe that this user, social, may lied and gave a false translation which Richard pankhurst did not wrote.

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That user, social, purposely translated the text wrong from his own personal view/agenda. The translation text doesn’t call the beta israel “slaves”.

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Check the sources in your free time if you can please. It is all backed. The yejju were not ethnically Oromo, but partly assimilated one.

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essay at the wrong point in the discussion. Smallbones' introduction of the essay happens down the page a bit after "convenient break". ☆

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Hi, sorry to bother you, but can I ask you for help on the page of the history of Jews in Ethiopia (referring to the Beta israel).

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Thanks. Frankly I think even modern versions of the Britannica are useless for archaeology, more or less useless for history.

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ummius Fausianus. Names are almost identical, but not quite: for them to refer to the same person, the person who inscribed

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Here, Livy's version has to be preferred, as MAR is noted as censor in 214 BC (MRR 1.259, citing Livy 24.11.6 and the

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I'd be happy to have a look. I might be a bit slow to complete the GA, however. I'll keep you informed. --

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