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Bitcoin community calling Atlas a troll is pretty similar to someone from the Knowledge (XXG) community calling Andrew Morrow a troll, or someone from the Linux community calling Jeff Merkey a troll— it's intented as a simple statement of fact and not as a personal attack in any case. It may be acceptable to make the decision to ignore an editors unlawful, unethical, and abusive behavior external to Knowledge (XXG) as a matter of policy but the people they've harmed don't suddenly stop being people, and don't suddenly have a surplus of tolerance for someone they know beyond all doubt is unable to work with anyone in an honest and professional manner. As it stands Atlas is basically excerting complete control of the Bitcoin article with agressive and frequent edits imposing his fringe politics and incorrect technical understanding and driving other thoughtful people away from editing it and the article is suffering for it, and I say this as a well established authority on the subject. So please cut Luke a little slack— he's at least trying to do something about it, which is more than I can say about myself as I won't even bother to try editing against Atlas... I'll come help out with the article again after he inevitably gets himself banned. --
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