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Japanese would think it was indeed pronounced as けいん. The use of the accented e to emphasize it's pronunciation is used in borrowed English words such a touché and it's usage has been seen in words such as Pokémon (as does it's wikipedia article) but admittedly it is not established usage for 鐘 (if there is such a thing) and not strict Japanese romanization. I would point out though that kah-neh is by no means correct in "passport Hepburn" romanization either, the h's would signify that you extend the vowels, which would make the word かあねい, which is also incorrect. There may be another romanization method I haven't heard of where extra h's don't signify lengthening the vowel, but I doubt it.
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programming language. This is a problem because to make a table of indeterminate size using templates, you have to use multiple templates, as they do for the succession boxes for instance. So what you suggest can be done, but not elegantly, and not in such a way as to guarantee it will be done every time. You'd be dependent on the person who inserts the table to do the right thing, but that obviates the point of using a template in the first place. It was partly because of this that I added links to the ranks in the footer of the table. I could add one for Juryo, of course. It might be worth adding a row of links to all the divisions.
1590:'s article rather pointless. Other wikipedias can't be used as a source, but the information gleaned from there, unsourced, is okay? Is it not just as egregious not to have any source for information for an article on wikipedia? Message I receive: Getting information from other places (including your own noggin) without sourcing: technically wrong, but we'll let it slide. Being honest about where you got your info: nope, not if it's not sanctioned. Next time I just won't source. You could have least put a source tag on the article, but maybe you were busy. 1412:
followed it as best I could without really knowing where to get my hands on any materials, which basically meant I took notice whenever it happened to be in the news. Back in September I stumbled on the online sumo fan community, and its been very informative. There were many good reasons to get broadband at home, but for me the "killer app" was being able to watch sumo. The rotten bastards block streaming connections at work.
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himself against some opponents, and he always looks nervous or uncertain before a bout. He really ought to find some way to psych himself up. He doesn't have to go as far as Takamisakari, (who does, really?) but I don't think he even does the mental preparation even normal rikishi use. I say that just because he seems very low-key during shikiri when I'd think he should be working himself up.
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much information about pre-meiji period yokozuna, and perhaps even pre WWII yokozuna. So, rather than each one having his own page, we could just make a new article called "yokozuna of the pre meiji period" or something like that. I don't think any of those yokozuna articles individually will ever be more than a few lines. what do you think?
498:. You designed a table, not a template. A table might be implemented with a template, and that's essentially what I did. The idea is to save editors the trouble of setting up the same table every time, so the same thing can be accomplished with less typing and less wiki-coding each time. A template allows for a uniform look across a project. 1246:. Editors doing GA reviews are increasingly preferring all citations to be marked up with templates, and its easier to do it now, as they're added, then have to go back and convert dozens of them later on. If you have any questions about any of this, feel free to ask. Keep up the good work, and no rush on the citations! :) 105:, not my main page; that's where the messages are supposed to be, there is a little + on the top of the page to add a comment. This time I moved your comment manually. Anyway back on topic. Knowledge (XXG) works by consensus, you should have consensus before you make drastical changes on a page, or when you see there is a 125:, not ranked because the singular states of the union are ranked. There is a consensus on Knowledge (XXG) that the EU is not a country, but it is a supranational entity, with a democratically elected parliament and a law system, and so it should be included for the sake of information in this kind of articles. -- 1296:
correctly, especially since Knowledge (XXG) relies heavily on CSS for its look and that's a standard that IE was particularly slow to support. So the CSS behind the look of the table might not be rendered correctly. I'm on a Linux box right now, but I'll check it out on a current version of IE later.
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Thanks Malnova. And thanks for all your hard work on the tourney boxes; they greatly improve the articles. I'll certainly keep an eye on the articles you've listed and correct if necessary. I agree Csernica's boxes are snazzier but it would be a lot of work replacing yours, which look absolutely fine
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I see what you mean, but anything like that would be purely decorative, as a memory aid only, since each cell is otherwise identical: it would all be the same code. One way to accomplish this without a lot of duplication would be to add redirects in template space with the individual names you want,
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Thanks for that Malnova. It sounds like a very exciting match and I'm so pleased for Mitsuki. Now can can he end that dreadful losing run against Asashoryu tomorrow? I do hope I didn't give much away in what I said (although I suspect I probably did). Next time I won't assume you've seen the matches
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I'm determined that every active rikishi with makuuchi experience has their own article, even if it was only for five minutes! :) Seriously, I hope that that's not overkill. I also think the tourney tables really improve the articles so I've been adding as many as I can. Incidentally I noticed today
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I'm trying to come up with an appropriate graphic for some of the other templates. Adding project templates and user boxes to article talk and user pages is one way to raise the project's visibility and hopefully draw more people in. I'm thinking of the kanji for Sumo in the calligraphy they use for
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cite the article but we might as well cite the reliable source directly, or else it doesn't, in which case we shouldn't cite it at all because it might be wrong (as indeed might our version). Since I can't read Japanese and so don't know which of these is the case, I'll leave it to someone who does
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page: "On the job front: I have similar experiences and conclusions about the future of fair employment for foreign workers in Japan; though part of me knows I should fight the good fight." I just want to say that you remind me of a guy I know and I couldn't agree with you more. I just want to add:
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No problem. Everyone has been doing a good job with all the sumo stuff in general. I think it is a really good idea to consolidate articles and have a few good ones as opposed to a bunch of stubs. I was also thinking we should start to consolidate yokozuna profiles. I don't think there will be
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I was surprised when I read that article-- I'd assumed it would be Takamisakari as he's obviously the senior rikishi at Azumazeki. But I seem to recall Mitoizumi was ahead of Konishiki as Takasago's successor (although ultimately he turned it down). I don't really know how these things work. Maybe,
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I haven't given the sanyaku rank numbers any thought yet. One method used by one of the stats sites is to give the number regardless of how many hold the rank. Whatever I think of, I'll probably just try it out so everyone can see it. That's easier and clearer than describing it. I'm also wondering
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Hi there! Was wondering when you'd be back-- I noticed you popped in a few days ago to revert some vandalism (we've had a few problems with that sort of thing while you've been away, actually...) No worries about the updating; I'll put a message on the WikiProject page similar to last time and see
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In that case you'll see this later. The big problem is that the pipe before the first parameter was missing in the call to {{Basho}}. Other than that it should work OK as you entered it, but it's easier to just leave all the pipes off for a basho you want to leave empty. No use counting a bunch of
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I did use 2 different shades of gray. The one blended with the border deliberately for basho where the rikishi was demoted out of makuuchi. It's intended to be a visual cue that the basho doesn't "count" for the purposes of the table. I used a shade of gray distinct from the border for basho where
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citizens, I just wanted to state that the concept of European citizenship is written in a signed agreement by all the EU countries (Maastricht), and that the inclusion of the EU in that list would not hurt anyone and would be apreciated by many for it's statistical value. The same is valid here. --
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I found some clips on YouTube of Kotooshu during his ozeki run -- one of those NHK compilations -- and he appeared to be someone worth watching based on that performance, so when I saw him afterward it was a disappointment. I don't think you're being over-imaginative. To me he looks like he beats
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I must confess I don't know much about Knowledge (XXG)'s policies on use of images, or how to upload images to Knowledge (XXG) (must read up on both those things). But I agree there need to be more. It's not too bad for the current rikishi (the top ones anyway) but not so good for retired ones.
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I thought about joining the union a few times, but couldn't afford it to be honest. However, when they got the government to investigate NOVA's pension and insurance policy towards foreign teachers, and the governments response was, well, that's too bard, i pretty much lost faith that the union
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It's partly a deliberate constraint. There are several extensions available for MediaWiki that have not been installed here because the sysops don't want the templates to turn into a programming language. Linking the first instance of a word can be done with either variables or string functions,
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But they do have some limitations. Among them would be the ability to link only the first mention of a rank, etc. without the user asking for that particular instance to be linked. That's because there's no way to save state information between template calls: no equivalent of a variable as in a
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I haven't been following sumo very long; only since just after the September basho of last year. I used to enjoy what little I could see of it, but that was a long time ago -- crtainly before any part of a basho was regularly featured on cable, and I haven't had cable now for almost 20 years. I
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Anyway, yes, you do have a point. I changed the article because it was on I saw it in a list of other words spelled the same and it was the only one not pronounced as けいん or かいん. I took a liberty with the English spelling of 鐘, because I think the average English speaker with no knowledge of
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Cheers Malnova. Wakakirin is an interesting guy-- one of those bright young hopes who's taken a while to make it to the top. I'll add what I can. Be good to have you around after the basho, and with ACSE and others here as well I think sumo's doing pretty well on Knowledge (XXG) at the moment.
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Oh don't worry about spoilers-- I look for the results as soon as they're available! I believe every active rikishi with a page now has an infobox and tourney table-- I'm now going through the historical ones. I did Shunketsu, Jumonji and Tosanoumi the other day. I removed them from the "needs
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I don't see your point and obviously you don't see mine, so we should set a consensus, an agreement, involving other people as well, for now I won't edit the post anymore, as I already told you, but I still think that the EU should be included. Also I never wanted to represent all the European
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ehm... the fact that no one answered my question doesn't mean that they don't agree, as it doesn't mean that they agree, it doesn't mean anything at all... so, you say that several people before you edited out the EU from the list, but that means that several people re-entered it in the list
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I wouldn't expect there to be a problem. There's nothing fancy being done there; it's just a table caption. But you said it looks OK on Safari -- when you tried it on IE were you on a Mac? The latest IE version available for the Mac is 4 years out of date. I'd expect many things to not work
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Ozeki are sometimes numbered and sometimes not because there's no point in doing it unless there are at least 3, giving 2 ranks. You're right that it may be unclear, so I'll give some thought as to how to address it. If we're giving rank at all though, the number should be there as it's not
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Thanks for tidying up the list of active wrestlers. I hsdn't thought of mentioning it under individual wrestlers' articles-- that's a good idea. The article's a bit of a halfway house at the moment isn't it-- a bit like a banzuke but not quite. It does need looking at at some point.
921:)-- if only they had tourney tables. But since the sad demise of hakkeyoi.net (which had complete tournament results for every sekitori since the 1950s) I'm finding it very difficult to get the data. I'll list them under "needs attention" and see if anyone can help out. 521:
The size of the award icons is part of an effort to keep the table as compact as possible, but if they're too small for comfort I'll make them larger. The different look you're getting relative to your setup is because of the font selection. I'm using boldface.
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can be a bit vague-- some people think of it as yokozuna, ozeki, sekiwake, komusubi, others (like myself) O, S, K, and still others as just S and K! But maybe I'm worrying too much. It might be worth just merging it and as you say, just seeing how it looks.
586:"Trivial" here means it's easy to add to the template, not that it's unimportant. Actually, once we start to add rikishi who have spent significant time in Juryo, like Kaiho or Takanowaka, I was thinking it might be worth including Juryo tournament records. 931:
Well would you believe it. I've just stumbled across sumodb.sumogames.com.... which is listed on the WP:SUMO page!! It seems to be just what I'm looking for. I've now added Ryuko's infobox and tourney table and put him on your list. More will now follow:)
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Thanks for repairing the link--I'm pretty confident we've got enough references now. Haven't seen the Asashoryu bout yet (will have to wait until it appears on the web) but who would have thought he would lose to Aminishiki twice in a row? Amazing really.
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All right. I would much prefer talking to someone who has bothered with making a User name. This would take you two minutes, you could keep it across IPs, and I would and others would know they are talking to the same, stable person and not a ghost.
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Thanks for explanation on toshiyori. It does seem clearer now. I might do a bit more research and add to the glossary when I find the time. Also it is listed as an article in need of attention on the project page so could be useful for that too.
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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I copied the caption that had been uploaded with the image onto the Anglo Dane page. The person that uploaded the image was the one that wrote it. I have added a few more bits to the article but my reference books have no more to add.
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You're doing great with the boxes, but why do you have to blow them up so B-I-G? They are great as they are and the size sort of disrupts the whole "harmony" of the layout of the article. I suggest you keep them at 100% and not 125%.
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article on Knowledge (XXG). Also consider the fact that I have added the Eu to the list once, then someone else removed it and I never added it again. Now I'm trying to set a Consensus because there is a revert war on the article.
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Regardless, your point is made, and I will change back the article's name and then in the article list the word's IPA pronunciation, and maybe a mention that it has two syllables. Check it out and let me know what you think.
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Yes, in the current IE it is well and truly fux0rd, as the kids say. I'll see what I can do about it. 10-1 it's a problem with IE's CSS support, but maybe just a bit of extra padding on the bottom of the caption will do it.
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No worries; I enjoy putting them in. I will have a go at some tourney boxes too! I was thinking of starting with Mitoizumi but www.szumo.hu doesn't go back that far. Where do you get your pre-January 1989 information from?
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is not a necessity, though it's encouraged when pronunciation needs to be stressed. (in this article's case, I don't think the pronunciation of the word even needs to be covered, but that's left entirely to the editors'
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templates of course, and there's no reason why other people who know what they're doing can't edit them as they see fit. So we might want more people than are watching my user talk page to see discussions like this.
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You're right it wasn't 1982 :) I've noticed that a lot of yokozuna articles have been stubs for some time so I thought I'd go through and add infoboxes and a few more details where I can. It'll take a while though!
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is going well. Maybe in the future I will come back, but, it is better to go cold turkey in these situations, I feel. Thanks again for the kind words and keep up the good work. You have done far more than I.
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It turns out I'm not going to be able to put that style of reference into the table since you can't use ref tags inside template code and expect them to work correctly. So the way you're doing it is just fine.
652:) but I'm thinking we may eventually add pages for the yearly basho results. Once enough of those are done, the year links could point to them instead, and that will give the reader a useful cross-reference. 639:
since I already had them done and could just paste them in; and I had to test them somehow. But I agree there's no reason to rush back and redo all of the ones you already added. We can get to them whenever.
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Please revert your changes to this article, (both the renaming and pronounciation) as they are inaccurate. "Kane" is romanized strictly as "kane," which no accented "é." In fact, "é" does not exist in any
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Hi, you need to provide proof of notability for the article to stay. If you believe it is notable then add {{hangon}} tag to it and explain how it is notable and give evidence on the articles talk page.--
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That's fantastic! It's always been an ambition of mine to see a sumo match live and to meet a rikishi. I know the Sumo Association's planning to come to London in 2009 so maybe I'll get my chance then!
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I am just spending far too much time on wikipedia for my own good, especially in the past few weeks. Cold turkey is the best way to go. I enjoyed working on the sumo articles and I am glad that the
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It's actually easier to add the links after the fact with a template because it only has to be done once instead of in every article. I really dislike the idea, but if everyone wants it I'll do it.
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As for the status of my account, I have a few, although I only reserve their use for account-restricted features. It's a difficult issue to get into here, but rest assured I am quite active.
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was just fine. The only thing is that you don't want to put parentheses around the year and name. If you like, you can leave the name off by omitting the parameter in the first template.
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for speedy deletion. I just want to point out, for future reference, all you need to do to nominate a page for speedy deletion is type {{db|your reason here}}. I'm not sure if you used
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For your tireless efforts in keeping Sumo articles up-to-date with tourney stats, and organizing sumo articles so they look professional, and all that jazz. Don't eat them all at once!
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a little squashed because of the infobox, but as I said there's no fixing that anyway unless you want to stick a bunch of blank lines on top. It will fix itself as the article grows.
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Cheers for doing all that legwork on the related articles. BTW I don't suppose you saw the Kotomitsuki-Hakuho bout did you? I know the result, just wondered what the match was like.
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Ooh thanks Malnova. My first award!:) Good idea with the "completed retired rikishi" bit. I've been working on a few articles recently which probably would meet that criteria (eg.
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means that all categories below it will appear with the name in the same order, so there's no need to add the name to each individual category. Handy little time-saver. Cheers,
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I don't quite see why you did that -- a glossary treatment actually has less to say than a full article, chankonabe does seem to have a life outside the sumo stables, and
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Hi Malnova, I removed the "unreferenced" tag, and converted the web address to a template-style citation. In the future, you should add citations using the "<ref: -->
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with the box in place and I'll see what I can do to fix it. It might just be a conflict with the infobox, but that will be true of any table you try to squeeze in there.
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I'd be happy to merge the /temp article and the actual article and reduce once there's demonstrable consensus for the change. Right now, I'm not sure there is. Cheers. --
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could change anything. I can't imagine why all these foreigners who are barely known with the foreign community, let alone within Japan have pages at the same level as
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tags. Template calls ignore unused parameters so it won't hurt anything to add it before I make the change, and then it will just show up in the rendered table after.
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By the way, it would be much better to talk about things like this on the talk page for the template itself, especially as more people join the project. They're not
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Actually Takanoawaka and Buyuzan still need tourney tables, but neither will be making it back to makuuchi anytime soon so maybe not much of a rush on that one!
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I don't mind about the table. I can't remember why I chose Kotonishi, but I was probably thinking along those lines. And, it has already been replaced anyways!
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My Japanese is virtually nonexistent. I'm basing my opinion on the usage I see in various news reports and fansites. It's almost always "Aki", not "September".
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before... it seems to me like a revert war, and the last revert end re-revert from some minutes ago seems to add to my ipothesis. I will see what we can do. --
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Please, if you have anything you'd like to suggest about it let me know and don't wait. I've been holding off on letting it go live until I heard something.
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No I haven't started a tourney table for him, so feel free to finish yours off. I would love to make it to Japan one day-- I will definitely let you know!
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It is too bad I wasn't still living in the Tokyo area, we could get a group of sumo wikipedians to go to the basho. maybe you should try, in any case.
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neither of which are currently installed and probably never will be. But it's pretty trivial to add a link for Juryo in the footer with the others.
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Thanks for adding that pic of Futabayama. It inspired me to expand the article a bit-- long overdue, I think, for such an important yokozuna.
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Of course you don't want to do work twice! But with me, it's a question of when I have the mental energy available to get a lot done at once.
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with this template or just copy-and-pasted the template's code, but you actually made a copy of the template (plus your reason) instead of
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Thanks! It's no trouble; I'm a bit of a stickler for detail:) I'm glad you appreciate it because it could look like nit-picking I guess!
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We should start moving sumo conversations to the sumo talk page. that would get more people involved in these sort of conversations:)
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I left the year links in for the live version that's now in template space. Right now they link to the general year pages (e.g.
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insignificant. It makes a difference when torikumi is determined, I believe, and a kadoban ozeki is always the lowest ranked.
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Thanks for fixing the Hakuho image-- I don't quite know what I did but when I added paragraph headings it disappeared...
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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to
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Well, one of two things is the case: either the Japanese article has a reliable source for the item, in which case we
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that someone new has done some new heya articles, so I will point them towards WP Sumo and see if they get involved.
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Thank you for trying to improve upon the article, but please be sure to consult romanization charts more carefully.
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who joins in. I don't mind doing the lion's share myself if it comes to that; it's not really much trouble. Cheers,
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attention" bit but you're right, it's probably better to mention it in the "update" bit. Will do that from now on.
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to me. I think we might be better off spending our time on creating new sumo articles or expanding existing ones!
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This should be easier than coding up a table by hand, once we get used to it. I added the templated version to
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if the direction should come before the rank name or after. (e.g. "East Ozeki #1" rather than "Ozeki #1 East.)
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NSK may not use the terms so often on their website, but many other places do. (for instance, this article:
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No, not yet, but don't let that stop you from adding them. It's going to be the second parameter on
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For your sumo tourney box, bringing some structure into sumo on Knowledge (XXG).
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I'm sure you meant well with your edit, but bear in mind, Knowledge (XXG) has a
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article backlog. Once the article is adequately referenced, please remove the
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Anyway, I've already made some adjustments. Let me know what you think.
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List of countries and territories by area
List of territories by population
List of countries and territories by area
giandrea
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List of territories by population
List of countries by population
List of territories by population
European Union
giandrea
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giandrea
13:12, 18 February 2006 (UTC)
Consensus
giandrea
13:22, 18 February 2006 (UTC)

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