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Confirm that I can even personally like you but not your views.I was little bit busy.I will surely give my opinion on the current topic on Barelvi Page and at other Pages. Luken,I appreciate you that you are taking pain to resolve this recent unwarranted dispute.I
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Picture of the movement.Most of the editors who are neutral don't know the subject matter and remaining editors edit that page with a negative motive.I don't Know what is the solution of this genuine and
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Thank You for mediation actually I was little bit aggressive in putting my points.I was just trying to show those edits which are with particular trend.Negative points and criticism is filled in the pages of an ideology to which you don't like.I have not seen any attempt to edit
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Deobandis are hardliners and Barelwis are moderates is merely an opinion and while it can serve as an external links, it is a blatant violation of the official
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