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evidence" to suggest it is the end, and the second says "the nuclear shell of element 126 might confer some relative stability on neighbouring elements so that possibly 127 and 128 might exist, but this latter one (unbioctium) would probably mark the end of the periodic table." That's all it says, not sure if it's reliable enough to add, unless you go by the fact that the book is more recent than most other publications.
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Unfortunately, the paragraph is not very detailed. It doesn't cite any source (the whole book doesn't either; it just has a massive bibliography at the back in a random order), and is the information on the last element is in only two sentences of this paragraph. The first just says there is "growing
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and onwards, that should be in some of the the articles. I'll add this information as soon as I can. I've had a check of other synthetic elements less than 113 and pretty much everything's covered, but I'll get around to adding anything that's not. Also, the books states that "growing evidence"
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Previously the article didn't list the natural isotopes, but now it does. (Would it be too much to ask for a complete list of all isotopes listed as natural in the book? It would really help update many of the isotope pages with new information and would finalize all the changes to
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we give 173 as the highest possible element. 137 was formerly thought to be the highest (using the Bohr model or even the "classical" atomic structure), but detailed quantum theoretical investigation raises the limit to 173. Anyway, I think the 128 claim is noteworthy to add.
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Yeah, that's probably the best way to add it to the article. I'm not sure if it's 100% fact, but it is verifiable. Other than that, I'll add all the relavant information about the unnamed elements to the respective articles tomorrow, and I think all that leaves in the
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Yes, sorry, it was 173. But maybe it is worth a mention as the source is quite recent. Additionally, I will get around to filling in those details as promised above, I've just been a bit busy recently with studies.
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The book only lists four (215, 217-219) which it seems the article already lists. The book simply states what the isotopes are, and no reactions are given, so I'm afraid I can't help you there :(
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have no articles on Knowledge, could you check if there is anything worth including from the book? (You could also use the book to help improve the other articles on undiscovered elements:
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suggests that element 128 is the last on the periodic table (it states this under the chapter on element 127), no longer 137 as we currently have written. Is it worth rewriting this?
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That site has been very useful in helping us with the last few images, and I have uploaded some images from there. Unfortunately, it does not give any images of pure Pm, At or Ac.
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Also, Walter Greiner claims that there is no end to the periodic table. An infinite number of elements seems unlikely(!), but it seems as though 173 is not actually a limit (see
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We could add information saying that this book states that Ubo would probably be the last element, but try to make sure it doesn't sound like completely accepted fact.
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I've been looking for them myself, but I can only find pictures of compounds (or, in astatine's case, nothing). Here's a site with some decent images, though:
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We probably don't need anything else from the book for now, but you can use the book to expand the content of some of the more stubby element articles.
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to overturn another horrible move based on a name no reliable sources refer to the subject as. I am just trying to get consensus to move it back to
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I will try my hardest to make a list, but as it is a long process and I'm busy with studies it may take a while. I'll do my best :) Also, from the
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I'll see what I can do, but I'm not having much luck with these elements. I think those francium images were the best we were going to get.
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book is the natural isotopes, which I'll do ASAP (unless there was something else that needed checking in the book? Just let me know)
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I noticed you participated in the Deadmau5/Deadmaus RM and I was wondering if you were willing to leave your two cents here at
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There seems to be nothing important on the non-article elements (unless you include the fact that element 123 was mentioned in
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Ok. Thank you very much anyway :-) Should note the possibility of informing the author about the missing isotopes--
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Unfortunately the book has few details on these later elements, but I'll have a read and see what I can find.
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Soon I'll try and start working on the list of all naturally occuring isotopes, which will be located
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I can't seem to see which ones are listed, so here are all the ones I can find from Ac to Pu:
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What sources does it give for this "growing evidence", if any? This sounds very interesting.
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No problem :) Yes, I have considered doing that, as well as the fact that there
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page also lists (with sources) 238 and 240, bringing the total to 5 isotopes.
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Are there any other natural isotopes of the earlier actinides not listed in
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Since the book was found to be so useful, could I ask you to check
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Not sure if all this is already covered, but here it is anyway :)
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Hello. You haven't yet voted for a flagship article for
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That's what I read, and just one source (48) is listed.
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Naturally occurring isotopes of transplutonium elements
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