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views working on an article and being unable to resolve their differences. In my case with Willmcw however, the mediation stemmed from a complaint I filed against him for stalking me around Knowledge and generally disrupting and reverting my edits, both major and minor, in a way that was damaging to the encyclopedia as a whole. I sought intervention based upon a high profile precedent with another editor a few months back in which Jimbo Wales personally intervened to stop a stalker engaged in similar behavior. Unfortunately it is proceeding very slowly with quibbles over just about everything in every step of the way (spec. Willmcw wants the mediation to occur in private over email - something I refused due to the privacy vulnerabilities of email and due to the fact that this is a stalker case having extraordinary circumstances). The slow progress has turned out to be a problem itself because in the almost 2 months since I made the complaint, he has only gotten worse in his stalking and more brazen in his disruptive techniques. As to hostility against libertarians, it is definately there among some editors on Knowledge but it is also fairly isolated. I lean libertarian in my own beliefs though I'm not affiliated with any libertarian groups. From my experience though the majority of Knowledge editors are to the left of center. Normally this isn't a problem as most of them are polite and you can work with them, but the ones that aren't tend to create the most trouble. The aforementioned editor is probably the worst case I've experienced of it, and for whatever reason he is VERY hostile to libertarian viewpoints in general (which is probably why you've attracted his attention much as I did). The key is not to let a few bad apples like that run you off of wikipedia - and I've seen it happen to others before including new signups who were stalked and harassed until they quit. Stand your ground against the problem editors and work with the good ones, who are in the majority by far even though its the problem ones that stand out.
2259:, Willow said things like this: "Thanks for amending your copyright notice and giving permission. The necessary GFDL license for all material copied into Knowledge is here: , and a general discussion can be found here: . In general, all material in Knowledge must be available for all commercial and non-commecial use, without further notification. The amended copyright notice seems to limit that ability" See, he is fixating on my own site's copyright notice. But my own site's copyright notice was COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT. Why he insisted on an ephemeral change of the wording there--that I could just change as soon as his little dispute was over--is a mystery. Far better to have an on-the-record statement by me, the author/copyright holder, HERE, on Wiki itself; as I had already done; but which Willow kept ignoring. I am convinced that Willow is one of these people who loves to push the Wiki GNU thing whenever he can; and who has a bias against conservatives or conservative libertarians. This explains his annoying and outrageous attempts to use his power as an admin to make up copyvio accusations to try to twist my arm to put the silly GNU license ON MY OWN SITE. This explains his annoying and petty notice posted after my IP article was referenced in the 2230:
he invents reasons to remove sourced additions to articles on the grounds that the source doesn't meet some arbitrarily and inconsistently applied personal standard of his, e.g. falsely labelling sources he doesn't like as "blogs" or "gossip." Once he even tried to remove a fully cited and referenced quote that I added from a century-old print publication on the grounds that it didn't appear on the internet and he personally couldn't (read:didn't want to) obtain a copy of it through a library! Knowledge makes no such extreme sourcing requirement like that, yet it didn't stop him from attempting to remove the quote while claiming that as a basis. And call it "coincidence" but the material he's trying to exclude with tactics such as these is almost always something to do with conservatism or libertarianism. But even if everything Willmcw's version claimed about you were true (and it does not appear to be so) his own description of the way he responded to your arrival on wikipedia puts him in violation of two very important guidelines:
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entry on Wiki myself, that was similar to what I HAD WRITTEN elsewhere. It is utterly irrelevant whether or not my site has a copyright notice. Willmcw was fixating on the notice. If my site had NOT had a copyright notice--which merely reiterated what is simply federal law--Willmcw would not have been able to whine about it. But this would make no sense: if his complaint was really based on copyright, he ought to complain when there is material similar to that on my site, whether there is a notice or not. But if the complaint is based on copyright, not notice, then MY OWN ACTIONS AS THE AUTHOR OF THE "COPIED" MATERIAL in editing it and re-posting in in Wiki suffices. If I own copyright to material--and look, as I type this little reply here, I come to own the copyright in this material. But since I am typing it on Knowledge which has certain licensing rules, then my material is subject to those rules. Same thing if I re-post here something I wrote elsewhere that I have copyright too.
1955:). I decided to initiate this RfC over the actions of two users who I believe to be seriously impeding the constructive development of this article into an encyclopedia-quality description of the Ludwig von Mises Institute. In one case the editor's behavior was long term. In the other, the editor responded to negotiation efforts I initiated with him on the talk page with unprovoked personal hostility against me, which in turn led me to first warn him of the potential need for an RfC and then follow through as his belligerence continued. I am hopeful that this process will assist in working out the differences that exist on the LVMI article and help to direct the responsible editors toward making their future contributions in compliance with the neutrality mandate and with other Knowledge standards and policies. 1905:
hostility to any topic involving libertarianism and libertarians. It is a common tactic of his to dredge up irresponsible and partisan allegations of racism and all sorts of other nasty smear tactics such as David Duke quotes then insert them into articles for the explicit purpose of discrediting the article subject. What is occuring on the LVMI article is a typical example of this, and unfortunately it not only fosters ill will among other editors on those articles but is also highly disruptive to the wikipedia goal of producing a quality factual encyclopedia. I hope you will continue to contribute here on Knowledge, and please don't let the behavior of a small number of abusive editors such as the aforementioned case discourage you from making positive contributions. Regards -
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comment on the article, which was completely out of place, uncalled for, non-sensical, and unjustified. Then, after he or someone else added on the Mises entry the SPLC critique and charges of racism etc., and I put up some comments by Horowitz that showed that some people bleieve SPLC exaggerates sometimes--he added to it the David Duke comment, in yet another transparent effort to prop up the SPLC critique. Yet more bias and non-neutrality. All the while Willmcw feigns innocence and pretends to be objective about all this. I for one find it disheartening that such an influential and active editor keeps doing this kind of thing. This is just my personal view, from what I have seen. I do not claim to be an angel but am trying to abide by Wiki policies.
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matter. Since you seem to be indicating a willingness to grant permission to the copyrighted material due notice of that in compliance with wikipedia standards should alone suffice. Regardless of what he says to you, Willmcw does NOT have a right around here to impose copyright release requirements on you that go above and beyond the standards required by law and by wikipedia and he is NOT a final arbiter of what constitutes a copyright violation. To me, it looks as if he's simply been trying to make you jump through an abritrary and increasingly narrow set of hoops designed to frustrate your attempts to add or release material that conflicts with his political beliefs.
1497:— we seek "rough consensus". On VfD this is usually taken to mean that there needs, in the closing admin's judgement, to be a 2/3 favouring of deletion or the article remains. Closing admins have discretion to discount votes if they feel they are made in bad-faith however. This is usually applied to accounts of very new users (particularly those with a clear agenda) and accounts which exhibit sockpuppetry. What constitutes "new" varies widely (some admins think less than 20 edits, others less than 100 although this can also depend on the particular case of a given VfD). In some cases, an article is substantially revised during the VfD ( 2091:
caused it to be put up, even though I have denied this. So he is not assuming good faith and is calling me a liar, in effect. Second, during that debate, he kept calling my entry a copyright violation, even though it was taken from mateiral on my own site that I gave consent to. I believe Willmcw was basically trying to harass me and make a tempest in a teapot here, as a means of inducing me to adopt the GNU type license on my own website. This is an abuse, in my view. He also bases a lot of his comments about copyright, in that matter, and on the
1302:. Administrators usually ignore votes that they suspect are sockpuppets. It is common for administrators to ignore votes by users who have not created accounts ("anons", who show up with an IP address instead of a username) and users whose first Knowledge edit is made after the start of the VfD discussion, especially if their first edit is to the VfD. All of these things are judgement calls, not hard-and-fast rules. They mostly come into play when someone gets the mistaken impression that it is easy to take advantage of Knowledge's openness. 395:. Palmer is, like me, just another libertarian. I have published more than he has, but he works for Cato. Willmcv gave as his reasons for Palmer being notable that he is openly gay at the Cato Institute; that is absurd. It is not even mentioned in the entry! Moreover, someone else said Palmer's long list of publications is good enough for the Professor test; but mine is much longer, and I have published several books, not just articles. So I looked into the policy and in my view, I qualify for the biography criteria. Don't you agree? 2323:
Anyway, it doesn't harm. However, I don't think it's a good idea to edit an article about yourself. You can hardly help being biased! It would certainly help the process of having your article kept and established in Knowledge if you personally steered well clear of it. This will allow others to fashion an article that meets all the criteria of Knowledge, which will be much more likely to be accepted generally. In particular, charges of self-promotion can very easily be faced down if you are not involved in editing the article.
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against me? I think you have the wrong impression of me. I would like to make a fresh start with you and be on good terms (and no, I don't expect you to change your vote to delete my entry). I am willing to try to make it clear that I am sincere and in good faith. Please let me know what I can do to demonstrate that to your satisfaction. Yesterday I indeed started a few entries, and am enjoying this. I want to do it right, but am an amateur at some of the rules and policies and editing techniques. Sincerely, Stephan Kinsella --
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Mises Institute; but I am not. Third, he kept picking on me relentlessly about a stupid copyright issue--I am the damned author and owner of my own site, yet Willmcv kept harping on the use of public domain info from my own website's bio, simply because he didn't like the copyright notice on my site. He was, I believe, trying to force me to adopt the open source or GNU type thing that wiki types like. That is not his right. So I believe he is a bit biased against me because of these issues.
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deleted. Had I been aware of these clear rules back then, I would have pointed it out, but the deletion of my entry clearly violated the rules listed above. So I am just putting up a version of what was there before. It's more like an edit of a bio entry by the subject himself, than a brand new autobio entry (the entry is very similar to what was there before, which is now lost down the memory hole; I didn't save it b/c I didn't realize deletion was really permanent).
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others have), I did not even ask a friend to do it. I have even attempted to respect Wiki's guidelines as to bios; if anything, it is Wiki editors who are ignoring the guidelines. So if there is some rule that prohibits me from calling a possible inconsistency or unfairness to the attention of a given Wiki user in his voting, please point me to it and I will be happy to abide by that too. These charges against me are completly unwarranted and unfair.
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be abolished, as I have written (I'm a practicing patent attorney BTW). A utility model would have a shorter term, which is good; and it would presumably not carry a presumption of validity, since it would be examined only for novelty, not for nonobviousness. I believe this would be good too, since granting a utility model patent would be less of a burden on competitors than would a regular patent. The ",me" is what we say in Lousiana, us.
190:. It turns out that autobio is not prohibited, just frowned upon; but given that my first entry, which was a bio not an autobio, should have have been deleted, and I am basically re-creating what was up before (from memory), and it is not vanity-style but mostly facts that can be verified, I don't think I am in violation of the policy--especially b/c I disclose all this and don't take the anonymous way out, unlike the anonymous posting of 2264:
standards require." And it explains his outrageous insertion of David Duke into the Mises Institute entry, in a transparent attempt to make Mises Inst. look racist by "defending" them from a critic by using Duke to "defend" them. Like a typical liberal, Willmcw things he is actually in the right here; the worst problem of liberals is a smug self-righteousness, which is not only wholly undeserved, but pervertedly backwards.
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decide that your article is to be kept, you should let other people write it to keep it objective. The question whether or not there should be an article for you is far overshadowed by the fact that you should in any case not write it yourself. Several active users believe they merit an article but would wait until someone else writes on them.
2556:"on this forum". Others shorten it to call him "Will". Why does he not object to this? Is it his name? Can I call him Will too? If so, why not Willow? After all, neither one is the same as his handle. Incidentally, I said Stephan is my real name--this is true, but "on this forum", since today is Friday, I insist on being called Hoppemxyzptlk. 2674:
Okay, ___. But others seem to assume your name is "Will"--extrapolating from your cryptic username--and thus call you "Will," and you never seem to object, so I suppose, unless you specify otherwise, I should call you either ___ or Will. I am at a loss here. And of course, humor is in the eye of the
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guideline proposal to reflect that the Arbitration Committee has deemed this to be a bannable offense. I'm trying to get community input to help develop this article. Unfortunately a few of the usual suspects are also trying to disrupt this process and dismantle work being done to better the article.
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Thanks Rangerdude. re copyright: look. DickClarkMises posted an entry on me; it apparently was drawn on material on my site. Once I jumped in and made a few edits, I of course ratified and re-published my own material. So even if it was identical to what was on MY site, it would be like me posting an
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refers to that type of behavior as "gaming the system" and in this case he's essentially gaming the WP rules on copyrights to deter material he doesn't want added for political reasons. He's played similar games before towards my edits using similarly misconstrued "rules" and "standards" - most often
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And why, Willinator, do you ignore the other, more egregious, stuff? Your ridiculous attempt to force me to change my own copyright notice, just because you don't like it? And a similar stunt, when you added the stupid comment after my IP article, to the effect that "though the author opposes IP, the
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What Big Daddy means by that, is this. I think IP is illegitimate (note: many of the Wikipedians, in their monomaniacal zeal for the GNU license, consider themselves to be anti-copyright; but they are not, since the GNU license, like any other license, depends on copyright law itself). Patents should
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had 50,000 hits on Google, I might also have refrained from voting. This is mainly because I am concerned about you putting so much pressure to have your own article. If I was in your position, I would probably keep my distance from the discussion. You are a primary source of information for yourself
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Thanks dpbsmith. I respect that. As you can see I am fairly new but have tried to scrupulosly respect the rules. I undesrtand your comment and I can see that even if it is not against any rules, it is not seemly to lobby. But I have not lobbied. Have I asked anyone to vote keep? I asked for fairness,
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I have simply asked people to consider whether they are being fair, consistent, and non-arbitrary. If someone in good faith votes to delete my entyr, I have NO problem with that. I have attempted to abide by rules. I have never used a sockpuppet or meat puppet, I did not post my entry anonmyously (as
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This article is not self-promotion. I originally posted an article about Kinsella, which was deleted (in violation of Wiki guidelines, I might add). After I created the article, and before it was deleted, I mentioned the entry to Mr. Kinsella via email because I needed his consent to release an image
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Is there anything else that makes you a particularly well-known or well-regarding attorney other than publications? If you have were in charge of some famous cases, I think your case would be stronger. It is nothing personal against you. I am sure you are a fine attorney and libertarian theorist, but
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Your page looks like a Martindale entry and looks to me like shameless self-promotion. I do not think that everyone who graduated from lawschool, published a few articles and practices law should be allowed to create their own Wiki article about themselves. Do you? If you are allowed to, your actions
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Well, Stephan happens to be a real name; and in fact, my real, actual name. People do get it wrong all the time, usually because they are idiots. Which does not offend me--just makes me realize I'll always have a job. By contrast, "Willmcw" is admittedly not this person's name. He says it's his name
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entry, to the effect that "please notice that this author claims to be against copyright, yet he copyrights his own article; what a hypocrite. I, willow, sure wish he would put his money where his mouth is and have a GNU license or something. Even if he has no control over what mainstream publishing
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guideline and you appear to have encountered one frequent abuser of this guideline at length. I've had difficulties of my own with this same user regarding his extensive POV pushing, disruptive behavior, and even wiki-stalking of my edits with intent to harass and disrupt. It appears that he is also
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You might have seen that I had already voted against the Tom Palmer article. I should point out that you're not really helping your case by repeatedly questioning everybody who disagrees with you. I believe you should simply let the matter rest for now and let people decide on their own; and if they
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19,000 is certainly a weak justification. That's why I abstain, which is not equivalent to a delete. I am not blaming you for "monitoring this a little bit", it is probably a bit counterproductive though (I am just guessing). Anyway, good luck with your quest for justice! This turns out to be rather
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P. S. Some other users' talk pages are on my watchlist, and I just noticed that you have been contacting them about this, too. In fact, a glance at your User Contributions suggests a systematic effort to influence the VfD discussion. This Wikipedian doesn't like this sort of thing, and I don't think
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article which appears to me to be neutral and factual. However, another thing you should be aware of is that the disclaimers at the bottom of every edit page&mdash:"If you do not want your writing to be edited mercilessly and redistributed at will, do not submit it" and "All contributions to any
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Fair enough. But let me ask you this. Why are NONE of those who voted to delete my entry following the Wiki guidelines for biographies? I have shown that these policies overwhelmingly support my entry; no one has even attempted to show I am wrong or even apply the policies. Everyone just makes a gut
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were, my original entry should not have been deleted. Naively assuming that Wiki editors would actually consider and apply the Wiki criteria if it was called to their attention, I put up a new page and decided this time not to stay above the fray. If my entry is deleted, so be it, but it will not be
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The criteria for notability and the problem with self-promotion seem like two separate issues to me. You have a vested and self-serving interest in a wiki article existing about you. I don't care whether one exists for you or Tom Palmer. I want the community to be successful. Allowing self-promotion
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Well, I don't know what a "name on this system" is. I am not a relativist. You have a name, and it is probably not "Willmcw". I tell you what. You apparently are operating under the rule that a given person has the perogative to make up whatever name they want and insist on others abiding by it, no
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Think about it. What is the possible problem with material in an entry about me being "copyrighted" by me? That I might enforce this copyright? But how can I do this, and deny the GNU license applicable here, when I am a registered user and indeed EDIT THE ENTRY IN QUESTION? Not to mention that the
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Kinsella has repeated, many times, the charge that I called that first version a "vanity" many times. It may have happened once because when I presumed Kinsella (still an unregistered user) was the same person as the original poster. You said you found that insulting, explained your identity, and I
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disputes is unproductive, and I'd rather not see holes get poked in the very thin veneer of civility there. As a "noted author" on the topics of arbitration, mediation, and conciliation, surely you should know that. Of course, if you're usually paid $ 580/hour for your time, I suppose fanning the
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Wow, thanks for the explanation, dpbsmith. Very helpful. I seriously doubt many if any of the keep votes for my entry are sockpuppets, so that seems good. I am not sure what is the import of your last paragraph, however. Waht is the point of telling me that writing can be edited by others? What are
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If the speed limit is 55 someone who drives 55 probably won't get ticketed. Someone who drives 95 in the presence of a cop will probably get ticketed. Someone who drives 70 may or may not get ticketed depending on many chance factors, but will not find that it is useful to tell the judge that other
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One of the problems with a wiki is that although Knowledge's goals are reasonably clear--to be a) an encyclopedia, and b) free--nobody is required to subscribe to those goals to edit a page or to create an article. So there are constant ongoing issues with self-promotion and with "vanity" articles,
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Thanks Splash. I'll change my vote. This has been a distressing thing. I am not a pretentious person. I never asked for an entry. Someone did one, unkonwn to me, someone I dind't even know. Then it was put up for deletion by Willmcv. I never opposed it, b/c i never claimed I was "notable" (I didn't
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Thought I should chime and say that I think the above comment is out of line. There is no edit count threshold for participating in VfD, although users with very few votes and a clear agenda routinely see their votes discounted when an admin comes to close the VfD. Do not "let the regulars decide";
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Briefly, I'm making this request because your behaviour is poor. You've been warned–and blocked by another admin–for it before; the reasoning is further up this page. Willmcw probably would not object to informal or lightheartedly needling forms of address under appropriately friendly and casual
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I didn't call him shipdit after you first said "knock it off", then you decided to go ahead and impose a time out anyway. As for "Willow," I have no idea what his name is. He refuses to say. His handle is the unwieldy "willmcw" and others call him "Will"--why? Do they assume Will is his name? What
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Stephan - thanks for the mediation offer, but we already had a volunteer - Andrevan - who is taking up the case. It is unfortunately a very thorny mediation due to it being over a personal issue rather than an article. Most mediations here revolve around disputes between two editors with different
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Willmcw: Okay, but I don't undersatnd what you mean about mirrors and links? Could you elaborate, just for my edification? Also, what would you have me do? You are deleting my personal name; so is it okay, if this happens, if I add at least an external link to my site, or do you have some vendetta
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is that they are discouraged; but they are not banned. A couple of comments about this. First, the info I put up is easily verified. Second, an entry was originally put without my involvement; given that I satisfied then as I satisfy now several criteria for "notability," it should never have been
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Several months ago, someone put up an entry about me, without my knowledge or cooperation--a guy named Dick Clark. Not only did I not know him (and still do not), but I had never even heard of him. When others tried to delete it, I stayed out of it. I did not even care to argue I was "notable"; at
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You're welcome. The VfD process can be pretty bruising at the best of times. It is true, though, that you could have avoided the distress by not rewriting the article. I would entirely understand if you did not want to contribute any further to Wiki; I wonder if I can encourage to stick around and
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I would recommend that you revisit your extremely verbose comment on the new VfD. Such things do not draw favour. Editors are able to go read and research the article themselves, and the ridiculous amount of space your comment takes up is unnecessary. If you plan to keep the article, I'd recommend
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I am skeptical your note was sincere, as there was no reason for you to insert the gratuitous phrase "that you wrote" in there, knowing I had denied this. Your actions are clearly violating the spirit of the ARb/Com decision, in my view. The ArbCom did not caution me in the way you imply, so your
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entry, based on a fallacious understanding of copyright. He kept trying to insist that mention of my own anti-IP article on the IP entry, have a comment after it stating that the article "was copyrighted" by the publisher; this was clearly an attempt to make some snide, non-neutral critique of or
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You are right about the error in the original VfD and the undelete; I unfortunately have just become savvy about such things. I do not know if DickClark copied my bio verbatim to make the original entry on me. To the extent he did, I guess you can see I wrote it--or it contained info that I wrote
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But the deleters didn't follow Wiki's stated bio policies in doing the deletion. Anyway, yes, it does appear DickClark got the info in the entry from my online bio, which was not vanity in the first place. But I did not cause him to do it, nor ask him to, nor was I even aware of it. i didn't even
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Several months ago someone put up my bio entry (I cannot remember who, but I did not know him or have anything to do with it). My page was put up for VfD, and Willmcv, among others, voted to delete it, for vanity, and non-notable. It was not vanity, as I did not publish it. Anyway, autobio is not
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of course). It would be wrong of me to answer your question, considering that I have merely completed the nomination and cast no vote. Some editors are of the opinion that having your words in any book or books is enough for inclusion, some are not persuaded unless the book itself is notable etc.
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No, those never get read, unfortuntaely. The main trouble is that (whilst being a lawyer means this what you do), quoting the rules at us won't get you anywhere. We know the rules (at least, those of us that prowl VfD regularly do), and the most common reason they are quoted back at us is because
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The purpose is to prevent people with no notability writing what we call 'vanity articles' about themselves, because they think the world needs to know about them. You're right it's not an absolute rule, but it's really quite strongly frowned upon. We prefer that articles are written in a neutral
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Thanks. I understand my vote not being counted, but why it is moved to the Sockpuppet heading? I am not a sockpuppet and I clearly labeled my vested interest. I am disturbed that Willmcv is using a double standard: he readily deleted my own listing (which I did not put up nor did I oppose having
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Will, the Arb/Com decision admonished you "to extend respect and forgiveness to users such as User:Nskinsella ... who share the burden of being notable enough to have articles regarding them be included in Knowledge." In your comment above, you duplicated the language, but you inserted "that you
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Mr. W, I feel silly calling someone by an unwieldy, meaningless username. You can request where I make my comments, but I am not aware of any rule requiring me to do as you request. It seems odd that you make these meta-comments rather than simply rebutting, or even just denying, the charges. If
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Stephan - Forgive my interuption, but I wanted to express general concurrence with the version of events and problems as you described it. Regarding the copyright matters, I am no attorney and neither is Willmcw to my knowledge thus it would be advisable that both yield to your expertise in that
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Willmcw also has done the following to me. First, someone else posted my entry months back. I had no knowledge of or involvement in it. Willmcw initiated a delete. In the delete he called my entry non-notable (which I did not contest), and also that it was vanity. He has stated many times that I
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Thanks -- I have been becoming a bit exasperated and disillusioned, I will admit. The critiques I read on Wikinfo about constant NPOV battles on Knowledge seem to be true. Sad. We shall see what develops, but I have definitely been discouraged. What's worse, the offending editors, like liberals,
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This is symptomatic of his operating mode around here, and I also suspect you are encountering him at an abnormal frequency after editing contributions elsewhere on wikipedia. It is no coincidence if you are, and I believe that it is driven by his personal political beliefs which exhibit extreme
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seems in general to be an active and fair Wiki editor, but he seems to be inconsistent and have an axe to grind here. He continually assumes the worst about me. First he assumed it was a vanity page; but it was not; I didn't even kown the guy who put it up. Second, he says I'm an employee of the
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is currently looking for Campus Ambassadors to help with Knowledge assignments at LSU, which will be participating in the Public Policy Initiative for the Spring 2011 semester. The role of Campus Ambassadors will be to provide face-to-face training and support for students on Knowledge-related
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You have been asked, politely and repeatedly, to refer to Willmcw by his registered username. My understanding is that you are a member of the legal profession; I would imagine that you can appreciate the importance of precision and specificity in discussion things and people using their proper
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Nobody said that DickClarkMises was working on your instructions. However, it is a misrepresentation of the facts to say you didn't write it. If an error was made in the original VfD then you had opportunity to point it out at the time. You also could have legitimately asked to have the article
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Stephan, I voted to keep your article. I don't think you're particularly "notable" but an encyclopaedia of the scope of Knowledge can surely find room for a few borderline cases. The "notability" of those involved in politics tends, I find, to be related somewhat closely to one's own politics.
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Hmm, thanks for telling me my remarks weren't "helpful." Of course, as any good liberal knows, remarks "should" always "be helpful". What other purpose could they possibly have than to be helpful, after all? Thanks also for the advice about the "unproductiveness" of "getting involved in other
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I would recommend against trying to start your mediation career with the dispute between Rangerdude and Willmcw because you have an ongoing dispute with Willmcw on your User page, and because you've already stated an opinion on the issue on Rangerdude's talk page. It might be inferred that a
1966:. A formatted area is also provided on the RfC for the named editors to respond to the complaint. Thank you for your continued work on the LVMI article and for your patience during this process, as it is my hope that we will be able to produce an agreeable quality product upon its conclusion. 553:
Duncharris: Thanks. I am making a good faith effort to comply with wikiquette. Are you? Is your insulting tone and remarks appropriate?--especially for an administrator? I have acted in good faith and have been insulted, treated arbitrarily, and abused. The objective standards for biographies
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That got me checking and I quickly found it to be a copyright violation and flagged it to be either deleted or replaced. Then a revert war began with an an unregistered user removing the copyvio tag. After an unfriendly discussion of the matter, you granted a GFDL so that we could retain the
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also probably has too many "his" and "he". --- I have now edited the entry, to have less sentences start with "he" and "his". I aslo shortened it and cleaned it up somewhat, tried to make it more objective; but someone else in the meantime also added some comments, which increased the length
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seem to be ignored by the delete-voters. I really don't understand this. If a given Wiki editor makes a good faith effort to apply the existing factors and criteria to my page leads to a delete vote, fine; but there is no attemp to do this, or to rebut my case showing that under the existing
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from his website into the Public Domain. He went to view the article, mentioned to me that it had been deleted, and became involved--at my request--in helping to restore it. For anyone checking, I did not create the original entry from this account (posted it before starting an account).
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there's nothing more substantial for the subject to go on, and I suppose you don't want to give that impression... If you want to put a link in the VfD, copy paste this: ]. I should say that removing your long comment from the VfD is not a requirement, but, personally, I'd recommend it.-
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deleted), yet he makes up lame distinctions to keeping Palmer's listing. It is clear not an honest, objective, or consistent policy. BTW, if there is an edit threshold, for such matters, I was unaware of it. Curious: what is an admin, and who has the real right to delete an entry?
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matter how out of the ordinary or awkward. Okay. As a human with a similar right, I hereby decree that my name is "Rothbardmxyzptlk" on Thursdays, "Hoppemxyzptlk" on Fridays, "Willow" on Saturdays, and "jumasesad" on other days. Now I expect you to abide by my naming convention.
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topic whatsoever as long as it is factually accurate and not a copyright violation. This would include articles on peoples' pet cats, the intersection of Garfield Street and Pleasant Street in Avon, MA, etc. Jnanabase is an example of an actual Wiki operated on this principle.
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topic whatsoever as long as it is factually accurate and not a copyright violation. This would include articles on peoples' pet cats, the intersection of Garfield Street and Pleasant Street in Avon, MA, etc. Jnanabase is an example of an actual Wiki operated on this principle.
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to command. If there are specific parts, or the entire text, of some previous version that you think should be substituted for the current text then the way best way to proceed would be to give your reasons and then make the edit. Let me know if I can be of further assistance,
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I was not aware of this. Where would I find this alleged policy? In any event, if it is true, then it seems anonymous entries about a person should be prohibited too, since that's an easy way around this rule (which I would not do, since I am no coward). But over at the
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page on Knowledge are released under the GFDL"—are important and are taken seriously. Together, they effectively mean that anything is submitted to Knowledge it belongs to Knowledge, and the original submitter cannot control the content nor revoke permission to use it.
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administrator can choose to act on it. The acting administrator looks at the page and decides whether or not there is a rough consensus in favor of deletion. A guideline used by many administrators is that barring special considerations, a 2/3 majority to delete is
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NSK -- I've done some tweaks to your userpage. Namely adding a userpage banner and adding colons to the various WLs. (As I understand the wikimarkup, the colons will stop links coming into the page.) These measures may assuage (not Assange) some of the concerns. –
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As you are very aware, you are Stephan Kinsella. Your comments to me regarding yourself are almost by definition incapable of changing my view on the vanity of this article. I review VfD regularly, and will judge Palmer (and review you as well) in due time.
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Note how many sentences start with 'His' and 'He', generally that is not good form. A biography is not important, simply note in a simple and straightforward way the important things the subject has done. If that is done, I will definitely change my vote.
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Willmcw, your and other Wikipedians' copyright understanding is abysmal. Understandable, as you are laymen, but then you act on it. As for when you said this--you said it was "likely" that I wrote it. But I can't remember where you did this. Maybe you
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way, and it's really quite hard to be neutral about yourself. We generally take the view that "If you are well-known enough to warrent an article, someone else will write one about you". You are of course free to correct an article about yourself.
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until a consensus is reached, and anyone is welcome to contribute to the discussion. The nomination will explain the policies and guidelines which are of concern. The discussion focuses on high-quality evidence and our policies and guidelines.
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Thanks Splizzash. I think you will see my entry is not really self-glorifying. I would not mind if others want to severely shorten it; a link to my website gives a lot of info. BTW today I decided to start a few articles, so we'll see how that
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article, I wanted to inform you that I have started a "Request for Comment" (RfC) proceeding over this article in light of continued disruptive and abusive editing behavior by two other participants there. The RfC is located at the link here
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Just so you know, it is against policy to create articles about yourself on Knowledge. As it seems your article is relatively neutral, so you may get away with it. I would say "don't do it again", but I guess that's relatively unlikely.
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In sum, if you could explain to me why my page is being deleted even though I apparently clearly meet the criteria, I would appreciate it. if you have any suggestions as to improvement of my Wikiquette, I would be open to hearing it.
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Oh, easy. Google turns up hundreds of entries (actually, 19,900, at last count). The info can easily be verified. I'm more well known and more published than the average college provessor, so my entry "can and should be included."
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Oh, I know that you weren't really serious about mediating in that conflict. But your remarks weren't helpful, either. If you've got a problem with Willmcw, take it up with him politely or post an RFC. Getting involved in
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skills (how to edit articles, how to add references, etc.). This includes doing in-class presentations, running workshops and labs, possibly holding office hours, and in general providing in-person mentorship for students.
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disputes". After all, "everyone" knows that "productiveness" is "the" "goal" of "getting involved in other disputes". Right? You Wikipedians are a barrel of monkeys. Woops, is there a Jimbo Wales rule against this too?
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Radiant--Thanks for the advice! I agree, I should not write it. And if Wiki users had not illegitimately deleted my first entry, which I did not erect, and disregarded Wiki policy, then I would not have had to do it.
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Users may edit the article during the discussion, including to improve the article to address concerns raised in the discussion. However, do not remove the article-for-deletion notice from the top of the article.
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TenOfAllTrades, Ten, 'Hey you', or just call me Ishmael. You're welcome to participate fully and reasonably in the Rangerdude ArbCom case, just don't play games with people's names when they've asked you not to.
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When I first found it I NPOV'ed it by removing "interests", added a category, and fixed the photo. An unregistered user, identifying himself as "NS Kinsella", added back the interests, calling it a "correction".
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By the way, I didn't actually do a count, but assuming that there isn't gross sockpuppetry or anything like that, the last time I looked it didn't appear to me that there was going to be consensus for deletion.
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Greetings and welcome to Knowledge! I know this is a little late and I only hope your experience here hasn't been too unpleasant. Unfortunately we have a lot of editors around here who completely disregard the
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entry, where they are voting whether to delete it, the entry is obviously authored by Palmer, via anonymous. So go there and take a look. --- Brief addition: I have put up some info on my discussion page
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And another thing. Your claims that I was an employee of the Mises Institute. And some snide comment about you not being biased b/c you are not in the pay of them. What is that about? What is your trip,
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know the standards at the time). But I resented being accused of putting up a vanity page, since I had not. So I did not fight its being deleted. Then I see that the same guy, Willmcv, is voting to keep
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That is basically what I have done. Someone else had previously put up a bio of me, drawing mostly on my own online bios. Then it was deleted in abrogation of the rules; so I have basically restored it.
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per the RfC page's instructions and entail the use of a tilde signature in the normal fashion. RfC participants may also contribute by way of discussion of the RfC case and all pertinent materials here
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If you want to show good faith it would help if you would stop making personal comments, such as "added link to Pilon's legal publications--he has no Wiki entry due to Willmcw copyvio actions". Thanks,
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someone falsely accused me of something I would not natter about where they said it, I would object to the substance and deny it, rather than retreat to irrelevant technicalities. But to each is own.
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If you wish to discuss Willmcw or contact him in the future, use his username–Willmcw–or hold your tongue. I will impose a block if you attempt to provoke him again. This has gone on long enough.
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He has shown remarkable good grace in responding to your attempts to provoke him. Please stop trying to test his patience—I doubt you will be able to exhaust it, and it is an unnecessary breach of
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Interesting. I was not awarwe of the process. So a page is NOT deleted unless there is a clear consensus to do so? Say, it's 50/50, or even 60/40 to delete, it might not be deleted? Interesting.
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comment is disingenuous: they cautioned me against excessive involvement in my own entry, and I accept that; they did not imply I had written it. And how is one to disprove a negative, anyway?
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a copyright violation. And you're identity wasn't clear, editing under two different anonymous ip's (24.175.17.57 and 216.216.209.2). Remember, not all of us are lawyers. You should apologize.
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I disagree. My reply was permissible in the context of the discussion about Rangerdude's accusations of Willow's wikistalking, which I support. I am free to elaborate and state my opinion.
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Until you clearly gave your consent the article was indeed a copyright violation, since it was posted it in its entirety without your knowledge or consent. We delete such entries routinely.
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for further information and the support of experienced Wikimediators? They could advise you on how best to start a career in dispute resolution here on Knowledge. You may also find
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beholder. BTW when do you plan to reply to, or even deny, the charges I've made that support your harassing and unjustified behavior in my case? I'd be glad to be proven wrong.
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the time I did not know what Wiki's standards are. This time, when I was investigating and learning more about Wiki, I realized that according to the actual Wiki criteria
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to suggest that an article on a borderline-notable person is a wiki-misdemeanor. It isn't. I'm just saying: I happened to vote on this one, and I called it as I saw it.
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yet again, but I have easily exceeded these, many times. A glance at these sites will make this clear. Moreover, there are "Alternate tests" listed that would suffice:
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justifies that assumption? Because it's part of his handle? As far as I know, it's really Willow. I'd be happy to use his proper name if someone tells me what it is.
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states who is "notable" enough for a wiki biography entry. Given the critieria, it is clear my entry should not have been previously deleted. Note, e.g., it says:
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will set a bad precedent for this community, IMHO. I'm not sure why you should be treated as exception. Being previously deleted does not seem to help your case.
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What would you have had me do? I didn't want to put my an entry on me anonymously, or ask a friend to do it, that would be dishonest. I was totally above board.
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I've undeleted it. You can have your 15 minutes of fame until it is speedy deleted again. Now put your rattle back into your pram and learn some bleedin
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Second, during that debate, he kept calling my entry a copyright violation, even though it was taken from material on my own site that I gave consent to.
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If you live near Baton Rouge and you are interested in being a Knowledge Campus Ambassador, or know someone else from the area who might be, please
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actively campaigning to other users for votes to delete your article, and I thought it only fair to inform you of this in case you haven't seen it.
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If you believe that Hulsmann's biography of von Mises is notable by WP standards for books, then perhaps you should start a WP entry for the book.
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It's not a warning, because I don't see anything at all about your page that would lead me to expect it to attract edits that would bother you...
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I didn't nominate the article for deletion but the editor who did was unsure of how to notify you and I agreed to do so on his behalf. Cheers,
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feign innocence when called on it. I am surprised at the hostility to libertarianism; I thought the founder, Jimbo Wales, was an Objectivist.
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policy (which applies to articles, but probably also to the way the encyclopedia should be created as a whole). I don't know, and I prefer to
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required for the role, as training will be provided for all Campus Ambassadors (although, of course, being an experienced editor is a plus).
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NSKinsella (please call me "Rothbardmxyzptlk" on Thursdays, "Hoppemxyzptlk" on Fridays, "Willow" on Saturdays, and "jumasesad" on other days)
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NSKinsella (please call me "Rothbardmxyzptlk" on Thursdays, "Hoppemxyzptlk" on Fridays, "Willow" on Saturdays, and "jumasesad" on other days)
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NSKinsella (please call me "Rothbardmxyzptlk" on Thursdays, "Hoppemxyzptlk" on Fridays, "Willow" on Saturdays, and "jumasesad" on other days)
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article is copyrighted." What the hell is that? And then your David Duke stunt? All this is bad enough, but then you feign innocence. Sheesh.
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How about Will? Can I call you that? Others seem to, and you don't seem to object. And if so, can I assume that is because it is your name?
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Please be aware of the "Three revert rule." Violations can result in short-term editing blocks. You may have already exceeded that on the
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Hello Nskinsella. Your user page appears to violate WP policy. Please review the following policies and apply the appropriate remedy.
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You, on the other hand, are in the process of arguing an arbitration case with him. A little more decorum is appropriate. Calling him
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to Knowledge! Thank you for your contributions. I hope you like the place and decide to stay. Here are a few good links for newcomers:
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know him. I to this day have never talked to or met him, though we did exchange some emails AFTer he posted my entry. Wikismooches--
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How do you know I am Stephan Kinsella? Maybe I admire him so much I gave myself this user name. After all, are you really Xoloz?  :)
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good idea, Grace note. Thanks. I think I'll do that. I may post comments on teh discussion page if warranted. But good idea.
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I don't care who you are. Let the regulars decide if the guy is notable or not, but don't lose your rag. As one can see by
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material taken was very short and factual, arguing either for lack of copyright protection (or very weak), or for fair use.
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However at this time I can't actually find a single case of my calling it a vanity. I certainly didn't do so in the VfD.
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Patent laywer, me? Ah, you must be kidding, we are actually a bunch of Martians hacking into a wireless 802.11b network.
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Willow, Just admit you are on the warpath and have a bias against libertarians. You'll feel better. Just let it out....
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Could you please remove the categories (Libertarians | Scholars | Austrian School | 1965 births) from the user page,
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I am a newbie. Not sure the best way. How about put it on the discussion page for the VfD page, and link to that?
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who have written books with an audience of 5,000 or more or in periodicals with a circulation of 5,000 or more.
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and make any applicable changes to the article or post any suggestions you may have on the talk page. Thanks!
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I was not intending to make personal comments, I was trying to explain why I was doing what I was doing. --
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use your evident knowledge of things-legal-and-libertarian to enchance other articles (strictly observing
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Please refute that you put kittens into dryers!!! (I responded to your note to me on my page).  :-) --
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and, in that sense, your position might be biased. I am not sure whether your attitude fits with the
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In the delete he called my entry non-notable (which I did not contest), and also that it was vanity.
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My name on this system is Willmcw, as I've told you before. -Willmcw 19:25, 2 November 2005 (UTC)
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on your talk page and someone will show up shortly to answer your questions. Again, welcome! --
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the substantial revision. Of course, all of this is at times subjective and is why we have
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If you have any personal comments about me then please place them on my talk page, on the
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is a current example) and the closing admin may pay closer attention to those votes cast
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site, currently under deletion consideration, if you apply your standards consistently?
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He has stated many times that I caused it to be put up, even though I have denied this.
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non-arbitrariness, and consistency, as far as possible. What is wrong with that?
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while implying that he is being untruthful in his statements before the ArbCom (
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Thanks, you are right, this will improve it. The Palmer entry up for deletion
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because I rolled over. Incidentally, there are wiki entries that refer to me (
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I have cleaned it up, and it is objective now. Please give me your thoughts.
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Does it mean I am an especially bad person? Hey, did you like my article on
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you have the misimpression that you can control the contents of "your" page.
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that you might be interested in participating in mediation on Knowledge.
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I don't think the following applies to you or your article. But just FYI.
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Ok, that looks better! You are entitled (and almost expected) to vote
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expect this the following comments to have any application to the
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notable don't get nominated for deletion or quickly survive VfD.
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A single independent reference does not demonstrate notability.
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your and other Wikipedians' copyright understanding is abysmal
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The following links might also be useful and/or of interest.
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if you wish to do so, your talk page is not on my watchlist.
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so that you can then use it as a reference for an article.
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judgment. Are the policies totally irrelevant and ignored?
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