130:. He's appeared in the last few days, and besides creating a userpage, his first edits were to delete swathes of railway information from Sydney railway station pages, including one which was a featured article and over which we've had a great amount of discussion in order to pass it for FA class. I gave him a level 2 warning for vandalism for it. Today he's nominated a whole lot of trackplans for deletion, some of which are worth keeping. His only justification is that everything is "unencyclopedic" and "directory-like". There is no discussion whatsoever, just outright deletion for everything. I'm a bit suspicious as to whether this user is a legitimately new user, or a SPA or sockpuppet used for deletion of material; but I find it highly suspicious that a completely new user would go straight for deletion of Sydney train material without discussion - it seems like an old user who's editing under a new username for the purposes of deletion of material. I'm not sure how I investigate this sort of thing, but I would appreciate some advice first on what to do. Thanks.
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that we should include the song in every article. In practice it is probably something which would never have happened, but I can see how our intentions were misunderstood. We were rather hoping that other editors, having seen the work on the
Lucknow article, might have been inspired to improve the articles on the other schools. In the absence of input from anyone else some content, however trivial or inappropriate, seemed better than none. Your constructive comments on the assessment process have been most welcome. With so few people working on the assessments we've all had to learn as we go along. Some of these school articles are so dire that 'cruft' is the least of our problems!
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Hey! I read your response in relation to the location distances on towns and cities infoboxes, mainly use the road distance but can mention the air distance in the article. I want to fix up all the distances so do you think i should stick with the road distances? Maybe i can log onto Google Earth and
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Thank you for your comments on my talk page which are much appreciated. I think we've all learnt from the experience, and I hope that we can now move on. I am not a fan of school songs at the best of times and, looking at my comments, I can see with hindsight that it was quite preposterous to suggest
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Hello again, order in chaos. I want to thank you and the other potential 'adopter', (name beginning with 'A'), very much for responding to my requests for help. I followed your instructions as carefully as I could but failed to re-connect. Somehow 'error' kept appearing as I typed in my password and
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Italian wikipedia in order to harass/disparage them. I'm pretty sure I saw similar usage yesterday under a different account name (and they were blocked, if I remember rightly (but now I can't find them in the block logĀ :( ). Not sure
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Hi OIC, I was just reading this article, it's pretty bad, I'm not sure I'd be able to fix it, either it would need a lot of work by a talented editor (such as yourself?) or the recent history section should be removed completely and gradually a proper article can emerge, the
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Unfortunately the die is cast so we'll have to see it through to a conclusion. Its annoying because I think a better considered conclusion to each debate would have resulted if each one had been nominated separately. I'm still of the opinion the lists are unencyclopaedic but I'm sure some people
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More has happened with this article. Someone claiming to be
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That one....that was written immediately after recieving that lovely message, so I was angry. Is that an excuse for it, no...could have it been written differently, of course. Should have it been written at all, no. I could have deleted it without an edit summary, but I didn't. That shows you
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Thanks for the offer. I thought everything had to go through a deletion process. I suspect this template is an experiment which someone has forgotten about and I can't see that there would be any problem in deleting it so please go ahead. Could you at the same time delete the following talk page
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hello, order in chaos, seeking your assistance please especially in the editing of a wikipedia article. I live in perth wa, a beginner in the world of wiki. I would appreciate an email address or phone number. should I provide mine? am not sure if this the best way to contact you? regards,
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Good stuff, here it's well past time I headed home to my family or at least worked on a trust or something I could bill for. I am serious about userfication, I think it's often the best alternative when there are only a few members, but will probably leave out the TIMDAY part for
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and pages, I didn't have the page on my watchlist otherwise I would have been on to this long ago. So your third opinion is sought on how much I should engage/disengage on this issue, or if you might like to come in as a non-involved party. Cheers,
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Many thanks for sorting it out and thank you for the explanation of the process. Some of these WP procedures can get very complicated and it can take quite some time to work out the correct protocol. Your short succinct summary was most helpful!
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forget it, i dont need someone else to defend him, when i can see the manner in his remarks myself. This has made up my mind for me to leave
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heya! could you please reveiw your vite to delete the robert j white article - he is notable as he has just recently moved on to edmund rice education australia (or christian brothers education australia - i forgot which) ~~ User:Symode09
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I don't have a www reference and will have to find an SMH reference from the time. In the meantime I have put a citation tag on it to keep good faith. Trinity and Newington have their murderers listed so I sure Scots won't mind.
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just saw yours and warlords conversation - not enough time to digest - please keep posted on this one - seeing i am screaming into a few empty cavities at the moment! (or is it exam time or holiday time or something?) cheers
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Very pleased to hear from you. Thank you, orderinchaos. And thank you for the good clear lesson in linking and other advice that I'll attend to. (It feels as if a tiny chink of light is emerging through the forest).
275:"It seems I am not the only woman with a funny voice from the suburbs of Melbourne talking about the hurt Work Choices is causing Australian working families," the Opposition's industrial relations spokeswoman said.
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Hello OIC you contacted me yesterday and Auroranorth did too and that was great, thank you, but then I lost you both. Would you please respond when you have a chance? I could really do with some assistance!
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Thank you, that's very nice of youĀ :-) I took what I needed from the text (and commented on the arbitration page), you can remove the text from your userspaceĀ :-) Thank you againĀ :-))
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so I couldn't 'log in'. I spent an extraordinarily long and frustrating time trying to do so. So I've made slight adjustment to my wikiname and wikipassword. Will this reach you?
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Hi Bec, OIC, VS and CJ (Aussie Admins that I know of); wow Jb3 can go on! I think we have a wikilawyer-in-training, although he/she only seems to ever focus on this one issue.
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Thanks for working on the Lost Boys of Polygamy article. I started it a LONG time ago, and somebody just sent me a link to add to the article. I notice that it's already added.
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