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and it was soon declined. I was disappointed. Then, w/o any more discussion, my AN/I was archived by a bot. Before I noticed this had happened, an admin noticed, resurrected it, and left a quick note that s/he would look in to my AN/I. Details continued for a while ... The bottom line result was that the accounts I originally raised concern about were all blocked for an indefinite amount of time since admins determined that the accounts I inquired about were reincarnations of a previously indefinitely blocked user. So, in my situation, some admins brushed my concern off as something that couldn't/shouldn't be dealt with (due to lack of archive information) while others took a fair amount of time to work with me, investigate the matter, and ended up implementing the "right" decision. If I am not mistaken, the primary admin who ended up helping me with my AN/I is one who, perhaps like Zoe, is perceived to be a very strong willed, sometimes prone to short answers, and yet, also a very good admin.
469:) from my talk page? The message was a (poorly formatted) request to upload a file I couldn't even access (let alone verify its copyright status). I did respond on his talk page, saying that I can't and won't do it and why (and removed the message from my talk page as inappropriate), and he still kept asking so I had to respond in a more final way. Perhaps the change of block length of several users? If some of my actions were inappropriate or against the policy, I apologize for that. -
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I suggest you stop claiming that content differences is vandalism. I think I know what vandalism is, as I have been here a lot longer than you. If you want to address this in a moderated tone, I will do so, but your screaming of "vandalism" will not lead me to being cooperative.
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I thought you said you removed this? I suggest you just blank this section, or archive it. Both are appropriate responses. It shows you've read the message, even if you didn't choose to respond. Best of luck in the future.
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See how easy it is to make such accusations? But, beyond annoying the person at whom they are directed, what do such comments accomplish, really? I suspect that this is the basis for the “ongoing” requisite.
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If nothing else, you will probably have made her consider her recent actions in a new light. If this causes her to slow down, and take a more user friendly approach to her function, it is all for the good.
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but that is all. If you didn't find your tone uncivil that's up to you. It is only a guideline after all, and we all have different opinions on what may or may not be civil. Sorry to have wasted your time.
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Ah sorry! It's just the SD was contested by the author, so I started the debate on why to SD, as per the instructions on the template to discuss on the talk page. Sorry to create more work!!
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I uploaded the pic the other night thinking that was the main ariticle for the film. Today I finally saw a seperate article just on the film and switched the image. Apologize for that.
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89:Moved from
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1371:A bit iffy
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1039:Chensiyuan
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621:. Thanks.
100:Peter Orme
1959:vandalism
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1359:the essay
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1276:. Thanks/
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216:Pete Orme
206:My Thanks
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