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1864:, you wield a sharp scalpel! Thank you so much for all your work! I hope it won’t annoy you if I adjust it here and there, but you have clearly provided me with a solid foundation to work from and a very helpful perspective for judging what to include and what not to. I’m really grateful, even if it does sting a little to see so much of what I worked on deleted. What you described as your motivation fits for me too. When there’s a subject I’ve learned about that strikes me as interesting, I want that information to be available to others without having to dig as much as I did. One question: is there a reference location/list of reference sites (like IMDB) that are considered unreliable (or, alternatively, the inverse- a list of acceptable sites) that I can refer to, to avoid citing problems in the future? 1731:, about a man who co-starred in one of DuMont's most popular series. Orrison's an obscure actor, but I didn't say he is not well-known, or that many of his roles were small one-scene ones, because I don't consider that important. If you look at the article you'll see I said he was an actor, and here's a bunch of roles he played. If readers want to click on the links and figure out he wasn't a big-time movie star, more power to them. No one will bother reading the article unless they are interested in him, so I'm just telling what I know about him, not how important he was. (I'm experienced enough to publish articles without having them reviewed, but after a new article is published many experienced editors swoop down on it to see if it's okay, and no one let me know they thought 1762:-- Internet Movie Database -- has user-generated content and Knowledge considers that unreliable. If I see two references for the same info, and one is from an Internet data base, that's the reference I'll be deleting, for why give the reviewer numerous unreliable sources to wade through? I see no reason to write a movie is considered very good, or is a cult classic. Let readers click on a link to read an article about a movie if they desire more information, all that's necessary is to say Jose Perez had a role in the movie. Once or twice you can give a direct quote that some reviewer said Perez was excellent, but don't overdo it. 1818:

know details can click on those titles and get details. If the reader wants to know about Jose Perez they may not care who his directors and fellow actors were, they may just want to know what Jose did. When I can figure out how to sort through all your references, I'll try to delete most of the IMDb ones, and try to condense his career story to make it more readable. (I work mostly with history articles, get most of my cites from printed books, and I'm not at all familiar with online citations that are hard for me to decipher while editing.)

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reviewers to think that because they haven’t heard of someone or his work, that he probably isn’t “notable”, without recognizing other circumstances. There are also some studies detailing the relative lack of representation of Hispanics in show business, which may have played a part too, and which I considered citing, but honestly I think it’s more a result of the bad luck his shows had. Again, I will defer to your greater experience, and thank you for your help.

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will take the reader to more information. One of the references has a "Check |url= value (help)" notice but that's a problem for someone else to deal with. I will not be able to provide additional help with this draft. I'm sure the actor is a fine person, but it's not my project, and it's hard to get motivated over someone who doesn't interest me. I've spent about 10 hours on this, and now I retire from the task.

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agree with, but I understand why they are in place. I write for Knowledge because there are subjects that are important to me, and I know most libraries have fewer reference books, and online sources are the way that a large percentage of readers learn things. I want to provide good information on what is important to me, so others can have access to what I've researched.

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managed to find alternate sources for most (but not quite all) of the roles, I couldn’t quite bring myself to chuck all the work I put into them, but you’re right; it is a bit cluttered and I’m sure whatever you do will be an improvement. Cool article you found too! Don’t know why I never found that one. Thanks again!

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Thinking about this, I’m supposing that the most questionable section would be the “relative lack of fame” passage and it’s references. I will bow to whatever your conclusion is, but I felt some preemptive counter was called for (given the history), regarding the inclination I perceive on the part of

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I would be grateful for any help you would be willing to give. I think I’ve addressed that issue too and only retained references that explicitly mention him or his performance (except in the one place where the references are authenticating the point I was making about certain shows “good reviews”),

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to offer help with it. I'll look it over more carefully when I have the time. Since it was declined for the second time because the draft references didn't show significant coverage (apparently articles about someone else just mentioned him) I'll need to read the references and try to find ones worth

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You seem to be telling the Perez story three times. In the beginning paragraphs, the Career section, and then in the Theatre, Film and Television listings. I believe you need to have a bit more faith in your future readers. If a film, series, or Broadway show has an internal link, those that want to

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As for a reliable listing of good and bad sources, yes there is one, but I don't know what it's called. Recently I saw one cited at the Teahouse, but I just read through it, then typed up my own reference document listing the sources I'm likely to want to use. The best thing I can find to share is:

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Also, your article comes across as cluttered. You're wanting to make sure there are plenty of references, so you list two or more sources for one movie role. One reference proves that role exists, don't give more than one, for that makes more work for the reviewer. And Internet sources such as IMDb

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I spent hours working on your draft, but got completely lost in all your references (116 of them!) while in editing mode, and so didn't save anything because I was completely overwhelmed, and was sure I'd made a mess of things. I'll try again later, because I promised you help. I'll need to figure

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The beginning of an article is supposed to just give the gist of what you're writing about, to be expanded on further into the article. Don't start out by saying Perez was in plays that won lots of awards, just give his most famous roles, and if people want to continue reading go into detail later

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I reduced the references by half, and believe I made the beginning section, Early Life, and Career more readable for someone who just wants the basics of Perez's life, without knowing everyone he worked with. For those who want to know more about a film or a show there are the internal links that

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You are writing about someone who had continuing roles in numerous TV series, so don't be emphasizing that he's not famous. And don't be guessing why he's not well-known, for you can only write about what has been published about him, you can't give your opinion. Plus I found an article from 1975

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Thank you very much. What you say sounds good. I think I did get a bit defensive about his notability and my references, and may have gone a bit overboard in response. I didn’t know IMDb was considered unreliable until after I’d already composed a bunch of references to the site, and, though I

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out some way to work on this and keep all those online references straight. How I wish my laptop wasn't so old, and one of my browsers hadn't "crashed". If I could have two browsers open it might help me keep track of the Preview and Editing version of things.

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and he turned the role down because he thought the show was insulting to Mexicans. I'll be including information from that article, which was reprinted in many newspapers. Here's what I found:

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