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retirement will take several months to be effected? Also, I find the blow-by-blow of his retirement plans to be unencylopedic. Allow me to ask you: what does it add to the BLP to cite that his is retiring with four stars although he is really only "entitled" to retire with three? How does it help a reader gather and form a picture of the individual to discuss the nuance of the Army's retirement process for general officers? Is this BLP really the place for a lesson on the interaction between the DoD's promotion and retirement practices and presidential intervention? If accuracy and detail were of primary importance, why not quote the entire article rather than just a few points? Me thinks the answer is context and appropriate weighting.
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article is about the four-star grade specifically as opposed to general officers in the United States generically, and many readers (including me for quite a long time) might not realize the linked article contains disambiguating information and therefore won't click the link. As Neovu79 said, your
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with capitalization and points the editor back to the MOSBIO section on honorific titles. The capitalization rules are noted (although it's not really a matter of grammar), and were an oversight on my part. But, I might suggest that the way to avoid an edit war is to discuss the use of titles on
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The problem is that if you only read the phrase "John Doe is a United States Air Force general...", there is no way to tell whether the writer is using the word as a noun or a rank. Even military readers might be uncertain whether the potentially non-military writer understood the difference, and
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Appropriate weighting is measured many ways, of course, but to devote the same amount of sentences to something that comprised a few months of 55 years as one would to something earlier in his career that comprised several years, is forcing the reader to be interested in something that they would
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in this context is not a title. In title form, it would be capitalized and in front of his name. Since general is after, it is considered a normal noun. If you were to put "four-star" in front of it, gramatically it is correct since we would be using "four-star" as an adjective modifying a noun.
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version was, in fact, inferior. That seems to be an opinion that you share with yourself. Sometimes, and especially so with an encyclopedia, less is more. Ask yourself if in 10 years, anyone will care whether McChrystal retired with four starts or merely three? Does anyone really care if his
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without the four-star graphic), and the reason you don't see "one-star rear admiral lower half" is that either "one-star rear admiral" or "rear admiral lower half" is sufficient to disambiguate "rear admiral". But the only disambiguators for "general/admiral" are "four-star" or "full", so that
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I doubt there any very many people, at all, who are familiar with the "three-year rule" so I think we are unlikely to get many queries on this point, and we run an equally low risk that someone will view the article deficient without the detail of it. BUt, I have Wikilinked to the section on
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and how it should be used in an article. That way the ranks were in all the articles you have changes were correct. Also, I must add that your grammar for ranks is not correct. WP:MOS for titles and ranks states, a rank that is not in front of a name or that does not begin a sentence is not
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Yes, naturally, what is superior and inferior is up to individual opinion, and I felt I explained why that was my opinion. As to whether anyone will care how many stars he retired with, I think the important thing is to get his rank
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otherwise not. Plus, the addition of the Wikilinks to the retirement section makes for a stronger article, as well as streamlined text in this BLP, which aids readability. And this discussion and discourse
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I think most people will understand the term "submitted", especially so when coupled with the phrase "plans to retire" used later in the BLP. I have also Wikilinked to the section on retirement in the
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is the context inappropriate? The way I see it, the information is accurate, just more detailed, thus an improvement, which is why I'm inquiring as to why you're reverting to the inferior version.
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As to whether or not anyone cares how many months his retirement will take to process: it certainly wasn't necessary, but it explains why, if he submitted his resignation, he is still listed as
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While this recent stylize edit is not one that I favor, it does conform with WP:MOS. I will leave it as it currently is, but I would like to open this up to general consenus.
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merely states that the name and title should be included, but is silent as to the proper or preferred order. Also, your reference to section 3.2 deals
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That's all true, although it would be better if the lede could stand on its own (and the infobox is just as ambiguous if it also only links
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Archive
Archives
Archive 10/27/08
Archive 12/24/08
Archive 1/21/09
Archive 1/28/09
Archive 5/24/09
Archive 12/31/09
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QueenofBattle
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21:23, 25 June 2010 (UTC)

Cuprum17
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16:30, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
QueenofBattle
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16:31, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
problem
Swarm
02:32, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
QueenofBattle
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03:05, 1 July 2010 (UTC)
General (United States)
General (United States)

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