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I think that's fine and is what I was hoping to achieve. In the meantime, though, the user in question has continued to evade direct questions about notability criteria and about the use of alternate accounts (the original post on ANI uses the plural and might imply the use of several accounts to edit in special areas). Given that, I'm no longer sure about my previous private position to just leave a community reminder. If you're up for further action, I'd be willing to consider it given leniency.
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1416:. But surely, the place we decide where someone is guilty of a crime is in court, and having been convicted it is perfectly reasonable to describe her as a murderer in Wikivoice? I might understand it more if there were massive and consistent doubts about her conviction, but there isn't any any such wider doubts.
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I like the work you've done with this, and thank you for highlighting that there are team, history and award topics that need love too. (Also, thank you twice, because you've reminded me that I need to make updates from the end of this past season, and the new HHOF inductees.) My immediate thought
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Massachusetts. Here in your reply you correctly say it was Saturday morning, but in the article you are editing it to say September 1st - which was yesterday, Sunday, and incorrect.
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In the interest of transparency, it is true that I have a bit of a history with this individual on other platforms (I have elaborated on the talk page), but I will say that the edits I have made are designed to be productive and in the article’s best interest. I don’t expect my contributions not to
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I'm up for supporting it, but I shouldn't be the one to instigate it; aside from that it'd be seen as headhunting given the number of posts I've made on the subject, I recently proposed and got through a community and topic ban on another editor. If I don't want to be accused of being the Madame
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As such, I’ll be reverting your edits for now, but I encourage you to open a discussion at the WP and invite frequent editors (Sbaio, Ho-ju, Deadman, and others, for example) to comment on what should be done regarding the tables/lists. Until then, please hold off for the time being. I hope this
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I appreciate you correcting my error on the block length at ANI. I should have looked closer at the text, I think it's just a general habit of mine when it comes to closing discussions since most of the ones I close have ended in that fashion. Sorry about that, and thank you for correcting me.
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I understand. But I prefer to not sanction when it's not needed. I'd prefer to get involved in some different drama at this point. I have projects to do and a life to live. If they're not to be trusted, their actions will bear that out, and it'll pop back onto ANI. For now, though, it's a dead
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I'm not, myself; with MIAJudges' repeated stonewalling, we just seem to be taking his unsupported word for everything, and after the
Garnett business, he's just not to be trusted. Nothing much to be done about that, though; either an admin demands some answers, or none do.
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You'll notice in the edit screen that there's Cite listed at the top. That opens up a drop down screen where you fill in various fields, and that generates the appropriate citation template. Please feel free to drop me a line if you need further/more comprehensive tips.
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Can you please justify your assertion that I am "subverting the changes in NSPORTS by just finding some reason, no matter how threadbare, to vote to Keep any sports bio at AfD." The facts are that (i) I vote "delete", "merge", "redirect", or "userfy" in 65.3% of AfDs (see
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As far as feedback on it goes, what struck me right off was the rank columns. I'd eliminate those, just by way of them being pains to update, unless you don't mind the ministerial task every year. Other than that, I don't see a thing wrong with your work. Well done.
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734:'s page? The Sabres still have one more game tonight, and although he won't be suiting up for the game, I don't think he's retired yet, even though he said last night that he was retiring. Could you look into this and let me know if it's all good or not? Thanks,
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Oh, absolutely, I mean to tackle them all. As far as EBUGs go, those are ephemeral novelty acts that the press plays up in the moment, but emergency goalies aren't anything new. The lines of Claude Cyr or Julian Klymkiw aren't mentioned in Debuts either.
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501:) I wouldn't change that if I could; I have seen way too many people get away with murder for way too long -- the Lugnutses and MickMacNees of the world -- to want to take this tool to remove bad actors out of the community's keyboards.
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any number of pile-ons, and a catchphrase I've repeated an uncomfortable number of times at ANI is that if we at Knowledge dislike the slur of the radical right echo chamber casting us as running left-wing woke witch hunts, it's best
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than the OP reflected the sentiment of the close: that EEng should behave better, and that there was no call for action beyond that; a classic case of SNOW. Do you anticipate a sudden surge of calls for sanctions?
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And you're allowed to make them as well. I haven't delved into that particular dispute so as to have an informed opinion, but you have. If you think a tban is an overreaction, say so! And certainly doing so
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Hi, thank you for your edit, however the original date was correct as is stated in the reference. Further, my edit was also made after the hospital closed, so I don't believe I jumped the gun in any respect.
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and I don't see that you have posted an entry on this page. This is part of the process. Did you mistakenly post on the June 20th log page? If so, please change the link on the redirect page. Thank you.
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Ummm, no. Using tables is a relatively recent thing, only over the last couple of years, done unilaterally, and that much only in recent NHL seasons. And with that, you are displaying some
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Not quite so unconscious now; MIA shot themselves in the foot big time. Take a look at the thread now. This is going straight to community ban, do not pass Go, do not collect $ 200.
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with another user continue to escalate. Rather than blow this up into an edit war, and seeing as the user has summoned an admin’s presence, could you review the latest topic on the
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this editor, and they are giving us no reason to do so. I really don't want to go over every one of their articlespace edits to see what else they've falsified.
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Lou has lived in Greenfield for 9 years- I have tried adding a link to a Recorder article here and it will not let me. A google search will offer quick proof
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Simply put, it's just riddled with "local color" items that are poorly or unsourced, and which I'd expect to see in a locally-produced walking tour guidebook
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which I've just short of a thousand edits.) Your condescending tone concerning what you will deign to permit or not, to put it mildly, is quite uncivil.
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