User talk:Raayen - Knowledge (XXG)

596:? Also, it says it uses those interchangeably, but it doesn't necessarily say it applies the Arab-Islamic label to Persians. I know this was done in the past, but this source is kinda vague about what is happening. Does elsewhere in the book it refer to a Persian as an Arab? How old are the articles included in the book? If so, go ahead and revert me and put that as the Persian citation. (Look at my contributions to see which articles I edited). -- 1767: 1736: 2043: 2120: 1022: 1839: 1669: 1594: 1528: 1462: 1396: 1802:

inferior and down-play any cultural and genetic mixing of the two groups. If you are a Persian and believe Arabs are related to you, please feel free to change the article. Just one thing - Iranian Arabs are a dfferent ethnic group from Iranian Persians. The Arabs of Al-Ahwaz are actually badly discriminated against by the Iranian government.

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Hi! I've noticed your new categories for endangered languages by family, and I think they will be very helpful. However, I'd like to suggest that you add the endangered categories to the category for the respective language family too, as you create them. This should make sure that they are linked in

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Thanks for your reply. Your improvements to these articles are greatly appreciated! Yes, there are undoubtedly many dialects and varieties of Persian, including Dari, Tajiki, as well as Shirazi, Esfahani, Abadani, etc. But linguists usually distinguish two dialects of the same language versus two

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Hello, and thanks for the interesting section and original section in the Arab People talk page about Arabs and Persians being related. You make some good points and I have replied to that text. I suspect many Persian Nationalists will have a big problem with it, because they (wrongly) view Arabs as

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article. It might also worth mentioning how (or if) these languages are written, and how it differs from the Persian alphabet (for example, with the ð, ts, and dz sounds). Also, if there are any sources that discuss the history of these languages, this could be included. For example, when and how

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and clicking the button labelled "Contest this speedy deletion". This will give you the opportunity to explain why you believe the page should not be deleted. However, be aware that once a page is tagged for speedy deletion, it may be deleted without delay. Please do not remove the speedy deletion

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If I had wanted to have a sock puppet, I would haven't been so silly to do what you said. BTW, I think you shouldn't have removed an important part of Kurdish Nowruz history in Turkey. That is detrimental, because it tells us about thinking twice adding Turkish pronunciation of the festival on the

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article that the language in the lead should be "Persian heritage", not "Persian". I see that you reverted this to a non-consensus version. Would you please consider self-reverting? If you disagree with the current consensus, you are welcome to bring it up at the talkpage and try to build a new

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Hello, can I ask you why you're adding the Persian translation for Tajiks from Central Asia proper? Tajiks use either Tajiki, which is in the Cyrillic script, or the Perso-Arabic script for those from Afghanistan (Dari). However, you're also adding them for Tajiks from Tajikistan and Uzbekistan,

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Hi Raayen, how are you doing? May I ask you to help me with one issue? I am new to wikipedia and I'm trying to upload a picture to Wikimedia Commons which is from my family archive and was taken quite a while. As far as I understood I have to use PD-heir licence. I saw you have used one with the

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The Carrier language (and Ahtna and Babine-Witsuwit'en) arenot a Yeniseian language as your recent addition of the implies. They belong to the Na-Dene branch of the Dene-Yeniseian languages. You should include them either in a category called "Endangered Dene-Yeniseian languages" or "Endangered

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that we need to fix. I think we need a better source, this one is a bit vague, and I feel using it is a bit of Original Research. And I'm glad that those articles don't say they're Persian. Now, we need to fix these ones, which is our primary concern. Also, perhaps we can talk to someone more

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section. It would be made up of two sub-sections called "proponents" and "critics", containing the various views on the cylinder as direct quotes, while leaving the rest of article to a factual description to give readers a neutral presentation of what the cylinder is, as opposed to what it

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As far as the articles are concerned, the safest classification is to simply say that they are South West Iranian languages, because saying that is true whether one considers Abduyi and Davani to be dialects of Persian or a separate language group (like SIL and J.R. Payne do). Best,

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please stop adding "Category:Lur people" to articles. there is not even a reference in those articles about Lur people. in Persian Knowledge (XXG), administrators rollbacked all of your similar edits. please dont change/add anything without any reliable reference and read

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It's been great working with you so far, and I look forward to continue working with you to build up these and other articles on dialects of Fars (and maybe even their respective village articles). Please let me know if there are other ways I might be able to help out.

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Yes, there is no clear-cut line between two dialects of the same language and two separate languages. For example a native Portuguese speaker would mostly understand a Spanish speaker, but a Spanish speaker would have much more difficulty understanding the Portuguese

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speaker of, say, Davani (speaking Davani), then these could be considered dialects of the same language. But while it's likely that the Davani could probably understand the Tehrani, it's not likely that the Tehrani would understand a majority of the Davani (speaking

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I'm wondering, how is the category 'Endangered Salishan languages' any different from 'Salishan languages'? Except for those which are extinct, aren't they identical sets? Couldn't you just add the category 'Salishan languages' to 'Endangered languages'?

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I am forced to urge you to stop using derogatory/insulting words against users and even peoples in common. The conversations without nationalistic slurs and personal attacks can be more constructive. Next time I would have to carry the issue to the

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Also, we need a source talking about the confusion, not demonstrating that they are ignoring the differences, or technically that would be Original Research on our part. Once we have that source we should be able to do the reverts correctly.

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which is patently wrong. The script is not used by them. It is also not a script of Tajikistan or Uzbekistan. Correct me if I'm wrong and especially if I'm erroneously assuming you did it often/still do it, but I saw you added it

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My comments and edits were completely free from derogatory/insulting words towards nations. Read my edits again, if I were you and you were me, the conditions were the same. I just say: accept the human history, don't play with

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why a shorter summary on this subject (one sentence or so) is more appropriate for the intro, and how the more specific historical information belongs in the history section. No material is being removed, just better organized.

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I think if you create new categories for various language families, then those categories need to be subcategories of the endangered languages category. Don't forget to add any to the parent category, if you create them, OK?

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I don't remember removing anything like that. Perhaps something was mistakenly removed during an edit reversion. Show me the information/edit you are referring to. I don't have any bias against Kurds. I'm not Turkish or

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Thanks a lot for the information. I think since four is distinct we should add it to the table. Is "one" ya, yak, or yek I often notice that in many of the Iranian languages, sometimes they drop the final -k in one.

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Thank you so much for your explanation and examples. That makes sense that the colloquial would be different from the written standard. I guess it's just like English, often the spoken and the written are different.

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Yes, I understand that, but it doesn't specifically say it'll use the Arab-Islamic title on a Persian, it may just use the Islamic one. Also, it says they will be used interchangeability, but it doesn't mention a

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page which would limit all the "reviews" and subjective interpretations of the cylinder (negative or positive) to direct quotes fully attributed to their authors. I'll be making an attempt to replace the sections

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saying that the information in the article was not supposed to be exclusive to Iran. Can you please review your edits? The infobox I made had information about Persians in Iran as well as Persians abroad

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I'm excited about the progress of these articles. I made some small changes, relating to their linguistic classification. We could expand the phonology section to give all their sounds, like the

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Please tell how can the Arabs be related to the Iranians? do you have a source for this? if not, then you edit is meaningless. Recently you have begun to make many of these kind of edits. --

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Hey, nice to meet you. In order for us to mention the ethnicity in the opening, we need a citation that it is often confused they are not Persian. But even then, I don't see anything that

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Your opinions on whether the article meets inclusion criteria and what should be done with the article are welcome; please participate in the discussion(s) by adding your comments to

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For the sake of Knowledge (XXG) stop making disruptive edits, like randomly adding names to a article, and ignoring me won't help you, it will only get you to serious trouble. --

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separate languages using the idea of mutual intelligibility. That is, if a native monolingual speaker of, say, Tehrani could hold a coherent two-way conversation with a native

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consensus. Then once editors at the talkpage agree, the article can be changed again. In the meantime, the article should stay at the last consensus version. Thanks, --

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Please sign your messages on talk pages with four tildes (~~~~). This will automatically insert your "signature" (your username and a date stamp). The

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unlikely from two seperate people, especially two people for whom a sock connection has already been postulated. Thankyou for wasting my afternoon.

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I assume you are Knowledge (XXG). Why bother when you have no source for many statements in English Knowledge (XXG)! Believe me, we know they are

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did they diverge from ancestor languages. The example sentences are great. A sidebar (like the green one in the Persian article) might be nice.

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Thanks for your response. I don't believe the subject means that. Can you please look at the FA and see how many articles mention this? Does

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They dont want to accept that Iran not only persian, and Lurs, kurds, turks ,... live there. I'm Lur and I appreciate your work 'Raayen'.--

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Thanks for adding information on the Koroshi language. Do you think you could add the numbers 1 through 10 of this language on the page?

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Dear Nabuchadnessar, the reality will finally prevail in spite of racist ideas of some. They don't know what "race" means actually.-

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Are you Iranian?! They, being Lur are evident and what I edit is in accordance with Persian Knowledge (XXG). Do you really believe

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picture File:01-ParvanehEskandariForouhar.jpg. Could you please advise me how I could upload the picture to get the same licence?

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hello, i created this category. i do appreciate that most of the people appearing in this category would also be afiliated with

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I don't speak these languages, unfortunately, but I would love to help out with these articles in any way I can. Best, –

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If you have any questions, feel free to ask me at my talk page — I'm happy to help. Or, you can ask your question at the

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail. If you wish to participate, you are welcome to

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category. but the fact of the matter is, the iranian azeris ARE NOT the only turkic ethnic group in iran. there are

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I reverted some of your lang categories, since the articles were already in subcats of the categories in question.

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Dear David12885, Thank you. It is a long way to go, but we will pass it. I am doing that for Iran, collectively.-

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familiar with applying the MOS. For now, I am following the MOS as well as how FA biography articles are done. --

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One user rightfully requested we put the entire conversation on one page, so please join us on my talk page. --

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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again to fix it. If I misunderstood what happened, or if you have any questions, you can leave a message on

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I will have to report you and I have quite a case against you at this point. Apologies if you are not.

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That won't help your claims (and did not make any sense either). I suggest that you should read this

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Thank you for putting all those great information about Talyshi. I did most of the Zazaki article. --

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represents or means -- free of spin or speculation. Feel free to contribute to the temporary page at

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patients with idiopathic dilated cardiomyopathy, left ventricular end-diastolic diameter (LVEDD)

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is an Iranian-Canadian medical engineer who invented an Artificial Cardiac Pump, a device that

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you cant add any category to articles without any source. wikipedia is not your personal blog.

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7 cm, refractory NYHA Class IV symptoms, and depressed exercise oxygen consumption studies are

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This is an encyclopedia. All regions where the occasion is observed should be described here.

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You may also edit the article during the discussion to improve it but should not remove the

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with the language family categories, and that more users will be able to find and use them.

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requesting that it be speedily deleted from Knowledge (XXG). This has been done under

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An editor has nominated one or more articles which you have created or worked on, for

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Oh, I didn't realize there was previously a discussion about this topic. I apologize.

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are not Lurs?! I don't see any administrator in Persian Knowledge (XXG) to rollback.-

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template from the top of the article; such removal will not end the deletion debate.

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button, on the tool bar above Knowledge (XXG)'s text editing window, also does this.

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page. If you are a sock and you continue persuing unencyclopedic edit revisions on

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tag from the page yourself, but do not hesitate to add information in line with

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both use a very arbitrary and idiosyncratic double hyphen '--' in your writings

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Raayen, hi, please be aware that a consensus was reached on the talkpage of the

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