User talk:Rave92 - Knowledge (XXG)

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me that we are inventing something new, it won't help you to change anyones opinion, and don't see why you would want to do that in the first place. Also you can't really compare city with country. Our country exists for long time, to be compared with city. Your comparing with cities shows what you think of Montenegrin nationality. We called the language how it should be called 100 years ago. As soon you all accept that, more there will be peace on Wiki. Also, Serbs don't have monopoly over that language. You want to say ancestors of Montenegrins spoke with hands before 20th century? Do you ever wonder what dialect Vuk Karadzic took for standardizing his language, or from where his parents come from? Montenegrins had enough of stealing their history. Also, Ś and Ź is not making identity, but giving options to people to write like they speak. If you ever visited Montenegro and know how people there speak, you would know that Ś is very often used, but you couldn't write it. You don't need to write it, so it's just democratic option.

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nationalistic heads of the 'proud Montenegrins', whom nobody in the world takes seriously. Montenegrins are Serbs by historical tradition, language and period. And what a paradox is happenning now with "Montenegrin" becoming an "official" language of your quazi state? This "official language" is NOT the language of the majority in Montenegro! The language of the majority people in Montenegro is SERBIAN! Those are the facts, everything else is worthless, it's just your poor imagination, coming from a brainless head, where the brain has been replaced with hatred towards your national brothers. You (Rave92) are a good copy of now almost exterminated croatian nationalists. If you continue your senseless nationalistic propaganda on these pages, you'll be eliminated as well, in an easier and quicker way. Regards to all normal editors on wikipedia.

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recognized, doesn't have an ISO code and is absolutely considered a variant of Serbian by every single serious international linguist - only the Montenegrin government sponsored linguists differ. On that note, this is not the Knowledge (XXG) of the Montenegrin government and it can not endorse the views of that government, while disregarding the views of those international factors that actually matter in the case of languages. What if Kosovars tomorrow declared that their language is Kosovian? It's a bit different than the language spoken in Albania, but it's still Albanian. Two or three different words don't make a new language and this is apparent to everyone in the world. Except nationalists who, of course, politicize language crazy agenda (as if Montenegrins can't preserve their culture if they speak Serbian --: -->

1525:(like they call a cookie in Britain - a biscuit.. or the way words are pronounced, written (favor, favour,..).. but it's still English). It's not YOUR article just because you're from Montenegro, and you should look at the bigger picture here, not just blindly follow what the government of Montenegro says. The government is frantically trying to distance Montenegro from Serbia in any way by promoting a new language, church, whatever. Anything so that the people don't think about the real issues, such as their living standard and how Milo is laundering money behind their back. But if you make up a new language, everything will be better, right? So long as you don't have to say that awful "Serbian" word and not speak that awful "Serbian" language you spoke before. -- 1560:

you should do that on Montenegrin one, or you think Montenegrins have less rights than others. About to distance Montenegro from Serbia, I think that is normal when you now live in two separate states, and that's not government doing, it's natural. It's not inventing new language, but just giving it a appropriate name. Adding two letters, it just gives options to respect the rule "Write like you say". Also, I understand that you are Serbian and think we all speak Serbian, that we are all Serbs, but that is not like that in real life. Also talking about Milo laundering money is now politics, and talking about how it's political vandalism, and in the same paragraph mentioning political person like Prime Minister of the country, is just hypocritical. Cheers!

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Articles which concern Montenegro should respect countries official language. You can't put "it doesn't have ISO" thing here. You can't really compare Kosovars to Montenegrins. Kosovars declare them selfs as Albanians and actually are mad when you refer to them as Kosovars. Also, you are saying you speak Serbo-Croatian? That language officially doesn't have ISO anymore ;-). Avoid "so called" and "made up language" in future discussion. Also I am not reverting to Serbian because in Montenegro we speak Montenegrin, and at least what we can do on Knowledge (XXG) is keep our own language on OUR articles. I don't add Montenegrin on Serbian articles, don't see why you should add Serbian on ours. Cheers.

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understand the issue, BTW), but that can be resolved through dispute resolution. I find it funny to imply that Montenegrin is an independent "South Slavic language" when many Montenegrins can't agree on what they speak, and the govt. is on an advertising blitz trying to convince them that it's MN rather than Serbian. A separate literary standard, the way Serbian, Croatian, and Bosnian are separate literary standards, sure. An independent "language" in the normal English use of the term, the way Bulgarian and Slovenian and separate SS languages, no. Also, you've reverted to other things which are not supported, such as 'majority' in the map, when the map is based on pluralities.

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language (like Croatian did), it shouldn't be placed on wiki. That is the reason why Montenegrin language Knowledge (XXG) was denied! Please, don't place Montenegrin language tags in articles, as those edits will be reverted. If i can help you in any kind, or if i can answer some of your questions, ask me!! :) Also, if you want to change this, only possible way is to place long lasting request on the Montenegro talk page, and make another consensus. Što se mene tiče, ja bi najviše voleo da svako dobije svoje, tako da možeš od mene tražiti pomoć. Ja sam tu da ti pomognem. P.S. Pogledaj članak o Skadarskom jezeru, i ostavi komentar na stranici za razgovor. Predložio sam nešto...

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logical. So here, for e.g. surname "Lee" is Chinese, originating from China, is that Chinese surname? It is, and it is of Chinese origin. It can't be American just because a lot of people from China immigrated with that surname, you can only add it is common username in US, not that it is American surname. That's what I am talking about. Over 2 000 000 Montenegrins immigrated to Serbia in 19/20th century, and just because some of them declare themselves as Serbs in Serbia, it doesn't make it Serbian because origin of it is Montenegrin no matter how they declare (Serbian, American, English).

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they start speaking Hercegnovian? Of course not, everyone would laugh at that. Montenegro can be independent, it can have its own politics different than Serbia's (and does), but a government does not have the power to invent a new language. You're Montenegrin, you live in Montenegro, nobody can take that away from you. If you don't like your language, speak Italian, because changing the name of the Serbian language just makes you and your country look overly hateful of its Serbian neighbors. Build your identity on something more solid than Ś and Ź. --

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all speaking the same language. Politics leads people to want to call it differently, not the differences in the languages themselves. Consider, for example, the Serbs living in Croatia. They speak exactly the same way the Croats do it that region, but they call their language Serbian, while Croats call it Croatian. So, who can tell me that they're speaking two different languages? You say in Montenegro you speak Montenegrin - how is that different from Serbian? You can force some changes into it, but it's still essentially the same. Take the

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commonly used and commonly recognized in English for the language as a whole. In Montenegrin you can just say "our language", but of course that's not an option in English. If the SC phrase for "our language" were to be introduced into English, that would be a nice alternative (we do that with lots of languages!), but meanwhile we're stuck with either "Serbo-Croatian" or "Bosnian-Croatian-Serbian".

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be understandable to anyone. I see your English is good, so we will continue with it :). Anyway as for nationality, tell the management that Knowledge (XXG) has it own rules, and can't really add European citizenship :-). But I must admit you did a great job on making article about him, it is very detailed. As for the infobox, try using the one that is here:

4637:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 4585:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 4533:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 4481:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 4370:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 4314:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 4123:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge (XXG). If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (XXG) (see 2851:

again removed Nikola I from the Serbs of Montenegro article, but are still appearently okay with him being in the category Serbs of Montenegro. You also didn't remove Marko Miljanov or Petar II Petrović-Njegoš from that article, so do you believe them to be Serbs? If so, shouldn't they're images be removed from the infobox of the Montenegrins article?

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there so when you click it, it becomes bold. See at Montenegro topics what I mean. You would need to reorganize Albania topics as Montenegrin one is made different. In Montenegrin one you have Praevalitana, Duklja, Zeta, Kingdom of Montenegro... but in Albanian one you don't have it like that. Do you understand now?

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don't understand why you reverted my edit when I added Petar II Petrović-Njegoš to the category Serbs of Montenegro because as I explained before, he is listed and pictured in the article Serbs of Montenegro, so my edit was indeed justified. If you can clear this up for me I would appreciate it. Thank you.

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I need to contact an admin in order to make a page semi-protected, so it could be changed only when user is logged on. The reason is I have noticed constant intrusions and malicious changes, that are reverted every time, either by me or other user, but always made from anonymous user (identified only

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Didn´t you read what I just said? This was commented in WikiProject Football talk page somwhere about a year ago (last summer, ako se dobro sećam). By that, it was discussed by MANY editors ALL of them involved in editing ex-Yugoslavia footballers articles. When I find the link I will give it to you,

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Because British brought that language with them. Those Americans who made the new nation, were mostly from UK. So that was English. Serbs didn't brought their language here, neither we were their colonies. You want to change my opinion, but why you think that by denying my language and trying to show

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ethnic group for example. They speak the ikavian dialect, and depending on whether they declare themselves closer to Croats or Serbs, they declare their language as Croatian or Serbian. Some even call it a Bunjevac language, when in fact, they're all speaking the same language, with minor differences

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Serbo-Croatian is also a made up language, the reason I have that box is merely practical (so I don't list all the next "languages" or whatever people want to call them). The fact of the matter is that when people understand each other and they can use the same words in all their "languages", they're

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No, you didn't understand me. I am not talking about Montenegrin Wiki. I am talking about Montenegrin language on Wiki articles. Admins didn't have anything against Montenegrin language, just some don't know anything about Balkans and want to interfere into those things. 90% Montenegrin articles have

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Yeah, because I suggest adding Cyrillic on pages about Montenegrin cities, and leave Montenegrin language on other Montenegrin related topic. We can't go against official language, and ISO code is just formality as language is learned and spoken in Montenegro. I mean, even the government is using it.

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Rave, Montenegrin is not ISO-recognized language, so Knowledge (XXG) agreed earlier in the consensus that until that occur, Serbian remain, as Montenegrin language is officially regarded as Serbian language version. Language is official in Montenegro, but until it is internationally recognized as new

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until you removed him without giving a reason as to why. Petar II Petrović-Njegoš and Marko Miljanov are also listed and pictured in that article and the article on Miljanov flatly states that he was born to a Serbian father, so I don't understand why you attempt to deny that they were Serbs. I also

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If what you're describing is natural, why aren't the Americans speaking American instead of English? Also, who said I was Serbian?! I most certainly am not. I see you didn't at all understand what I wanted to say, so I'm slowly giving up on trying to help you see a different point of view instead of

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Well, you would be able to revert more than once, but you really shouldn't - just like I'm not supposed to. Basically, what I'm seeing is constructive engagement on your part and willingness to seek dispute resolution instead of edit warring. You got to this point with the 1RR in place and you seem

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No need to get snippy, my friend, I was just wondering why these people were pictured in the infobox of the Montenegrins article when they are listed and pictured in the article Serbs of Montenegro and are in the category Serbs of Montenegro. Still not going to explain that? I also noticed that you

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Please stop acting like you own the Knowledge (XXG) as if it your private company. You do not let anybody edit, the vast majority of your edits are reverts of other people's edits. You do not even bother to look or discuss, you just revert! Rave92, why are you doing this? What is wrong? Why are you

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Ne bi bas smjeli na crnogorskom, ali aj :P, fora je da se ne pokazuje link za informacije sa vizama kao sto je prije, nego se pojavi stranica ali nema link. Probaj, odi na sajt koji sam ti dao, stavi Nationality: Montenegro, destination stavi i vidjeces da se loaduje na istoj strani (bez linka) dok

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Yeah I added that so people would know what language is, if it is not written in English. If it was to me, I would write in Montenegrin, but here admins would react if they see we communicate the whole way in other language than English, as everything we write here is public to everyone, and should

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OK, I saw the notification "this page can contain some text in Montenegrin", so I thought it was acceptable. Won't do no more :) The nationality thing was just something management asked me to change. It wasn't logical to me, either, so I decided to ask, as you rolled back their change. Any Infobox

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Trebao bi izbjegavati pisanje na crnogorskom jeziku jer se mora na engleskom, ali eto da odgovorim samo ovaj put. Nacionalnost ne moze da bude "Evropljanin" jer to jednostavno nije nacionalnost. Pod nacionalnoscu podrazumijeva (posebno danas) ciji je drzavljanin. Nezavisno od kako se izjasnjava, on

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I've went trough the article, you never referenced that Albanians wanted to mention Home, not Mother. It was just mentioned once by politician and he said it like a suggestion, and I think that was 2 years ago. You added it will get shorter version, we can say taht untill it is done. Your action to

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I am not sure if you are new to Knowledge (XXG), but templates are used to link to topics which can be FOUND on template. I don't say it has nothing to do with Albania, I didn't removed Albania from intro, and neither Albania sub. But if you want to add Albania topics, Praevalitana would need to be

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GERMAN. Sure they could call it Austrian and make immature claims that it's somehow different (and there are quite a few differences), but they have a bit more consciousness about history and respect for the language they use. If the town of Herceg Novi separated from the rest of Montenegro, should

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inventing a new language, I'm baffled as to how you don't see that. It's not about considering Montenegrins as Serbs (I couldn't care less if you call yourself a Serb or Montenegrin or Slovene, most of the people in the Balkans are so mixed up that it's impossible to say who's what), it's about how

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Hello, Rave92. I noticed that you readded the images of Mihailo I of Duklja, Konstantin Bodin, Petar II Petrović-Njegoš, Nikola I of Montenegro, Marko Miljanov, and Jelena of Montenegro into the infobox of the article Montenegrins. Nikola I is in the category Serbs of Montenegro and was listed and

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You shoukd have contacted people who edit from time to time football articles, and to share their own opinion, and not getting compromise with someone who never ever saw ex-Yugoslavian article, especially not the football one. And I can't seem to find the discussion you had about this problem, can

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Your objection to the intro wording for Montenegrin was that it should be treated like the other SC standards. But that's exactly what it is, and why I restored that parallel wording. It's only at Croatian where an editor is objecting on the basis of factual error (an editor who does not appear to

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You are missing the point. Serb from Croatia speak like Croats (Croatian), Serb from Bosnia speak like Bosniaks etc... but you don't see only Serbian on those articles, but the language which is official in those countries. None is forbidding you to add Serbian on Serbian articles, I don't see why

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Serbo-Croatian has ISO and it will always have it. "Montenegrin" language DOESN'T have ISO and it won't have it, because you cannot make a language with a fake administrative act for a period of 5-6 years. Nobody in Europe will recognize such a instant - made 'language'. It will exist only in the

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I am aware that the Montenegro constitution recognizes the Montenegrin "language" and I am also aware that it did so before the language is even standardized. How does one recognize a language that is not even standardized? Although it has received a "new standard", it is still not internationally

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Unfortunately, I don't have a perspective on what should be done with the language issue. I don't have domain knowledge or even context. However, I suspect you'll have difficulty reaching consensus as this is a highly contested issue and I expect that will have to take it back to RFAR. I strongly

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He wasn't when I was being banned. Also I think it wasn't only him (but also sockpuppet). So if I revert something which is logical, I am getting banned because I didn't talk to the one who vandalizes it? I know I am not neutral now, but how can someone claim something is blue, when it is red. We

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Why before adding someone on the list of being a vandal, see what I am reverting. He adds that the surname is Serbian and adds Serbian flag to it when all surnames that I revert are from Montenegro which means that they are of Montenegrin origins. Serbs never had clans, but Montenegrins, and they

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If I removed the 1RR, you wouldn't have the cloud of a sanction over your head, but it's not a license to return to edit warring. You're dealing with some highly emotional topics but the maturity with which you seem to be dealing with them lead me to believe that the 1RR sanction isn't necessary

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So you see no activity this month, but try and see the activity for past 3 years. There were a lot of discussions, compromises etc... I just don't see the point of discussion for one month and after we agree, someone comes and revert that all and I need to get ban for reverting something that is

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Because their ethnicity is dispute of historians. They all both mention Serbian and Montenegrin, but since they are part of Montenegrin history, not Serbian, they are not listed under Serbs for e.g. I let it keep that because we don't need edit wars anymore. There are random theories, like that

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I copied the message that he/she sent me on Flickr, I will do it here too: "yes! sorry that it took so long, this was in my junk folder. let me know what you need me to do to give permission" on 5 Oct 09, 12.26PM PDT and then he/she sent e-mail to OTRS. I am not sure how else to show you, maybe

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P.S.:What was in discussion back than was if using Yugoslavia instead of the "new" countries in the infobox was correct, or not. As a intermediate solution, I (me, ja, yo, Я...) proposed to use all, city+republic+Yugoslavia (same as you have done), but it was rejected, and the simple formula of

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because it is self-explanatory that the default name is given in Montenegrin. Please check other similar entries for comparison. Also, I wrote in the Italian name depending on its notability due to Venetian sovereignty and this is the usual name in earlier Western documents, for it is a common

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acceptance on two. It's only Croatian that's a hold-out. BTW, "Serbo-Croatian" may no longer exist as a political standard in the ex-Yugoslavia, but it is still the only word in English apart from the ridiculous "Bosnian-Croatian-Serbian", which in any case excludes Montenegrin. And it's still

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Let me get some things straight. ISO doesn't mean international recognizing. ISO is bureaucracy thing, which will be granted soon. Also, your opinion doesn't share any embassy or organization accredited in Montenegro. You are saying that this is not Knowledge (XXG) of Montenegrin government?

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That is completely nonsense. How the content of edit be irrelevant if someone is right. Of course, the other user is magically unbanned, and the reason for it he was reverting edits of banned person, like he wasn't part of that war. So he is unbanned, he will now edit his Serbian vandalism

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Još jedno pitanje, kada sam kreirao članak, od Infobox templatea koje sam našao, najviše je odgovarao Infobox Officeholder. Međutim, vidio sam da se taj odnosi na političare. Da li imaš na umu neki drugi Infobox koji bismo mogli staviti, a da više odgovara poziciji predsjednika preduzeća?

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I know, by that things i told you, there should be no Montenegrin language in Knowledge (XXG). In any articles. That's what am i telling you. Montenegrin wiki was rejected because of Montenegro language. Those two are the same. As i told you, talk to other admins, they will advice you.

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I was going to send you one, but you have email disabled. If you want to have the email functionality without giving away your personal email, consider getting a gmail account. I have one for purely wikipedia purposes which allows me communicate with other users while retaining my

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I saw your post on ANI and responded to it. I'm thinking that based on your recent behavior, the 1RR restriction that I imposed on you might not be necessary at this point. I'm hoping that I could remove it and your behavior wouldn't change. Do you think this would work?

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support your efforts in resolving this in such a constructive manner, as I mentioned on ANI. Please be patient and work through the process. I'll be more than happy to help enforce whatever the consensus or ruling becomes. Best of luck and thanks for your cooperation.

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So i can respond on your talk page. It's a bit late now, i will find it for you, as i dont remember where i read that information, but don't worry, tomorrow, or day after that, i'll send you a link! We can even talk to some other admins, they will remember. Be good!

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and it doesnt fall to that, your actions which include prevention of editing the article and atempts of deceit through false accusation laid out in comments in the Edit summary, also repeating the "non-referenced" (blatantly false) claim. You have also resorted to

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do Amerians speak American? Austrians Austrian?). Until the language is internationally recognized, I request that you return the Serbian spelling of the towns in Montenegro, as Montenegrin is merely a dialect of Serbian and it is recognized as such in the world.

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I don't see the need to delete less active members, since everyone's help is appreciated, but you are welcome to update the project page, since it's really outdated. I'll help you with that, but don't have time to get to it right away, maybe in a few days or so.

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city+country (in time of birth) was decided. As result, many editors oposing to this have find, as solution, using city+Yugoslavia in infobox, and using the republic in the lead, as (born January 13, 1976 in Filipograd, SR Filipovia, SFR Yugoslavia). Poz!

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I am trying to tell you that if language was rejected on wiki request, it shouldn't be used in articles at all. It is connected. Try for new request. I will agree with new language only if Knowledge (XXG) request is fulfilled. That will help! Be good...

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Look at other anthems of counties, it is not normal to have this long article about the anthem, some countries page don't have it so detailed. Reader won't be interested what some politician said 3 years ago, just a short history, text and that's it.

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of your actions have been ambiguous statements without any sort of detail, that include (1) false presentation as vandalism, (2) a distorted presentation of your own edits and (3) personal insults of the mockery type that should have no place there.

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There is no consensus to leave everything identically in Wikipeida articles, which discourages innovation and improvement. Having to obtain consensus for minor edits that clearly improve article quality isn't in the guidelines or Manual of Style.

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You seem to repeat your self thinking you are right that way. Your contributions are only on this article, and you think of adding "vandalized" is going to approve your actions. Kind of reminds of one user but I won't accuse you for sock-puppet.

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If you did not create it entirely yourself, please ask the person who created the file to take one of the two steps listed above, or if the owner of the file has already given their permission to you via email, please forward that email to

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Different people read articles different ways. Some people start at the top and read each word until the end. Others read the first paragraph and scan through for other interesting information, looking especially at pictures and captions.

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1. clearly identifies the subject of the picture, without detailing the obvious. 2. is succinct. 3. establishes the picture's relevance to the article. 4. provides context for the picture. 5. draws the reader into the article.

2012:, but regarding ex-Yugoslav players, the agreement was to use only, again, city+Yugoslavia. You can see that in most of the cases of ex-Yugoslavia footballers. This is just a reached compromise I am following as an editor. Thank you. 1378:

prohibits making more than three reversions on a single page within a 24-hour period. Additionally, users who perform several reversions in content disputes may be blocked for edit warring even if they do not technically violate the

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Yes, the reader will indeed, especially because the controversial background of the current Montenegrin national anthem is an ongoing and hot topic. The article as was, was actually far too short and lacked crucial information. I

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Even if I (maybe, I won't claim it) I am right, this means that I should get banned, and people who add Serbian just go without punishment for 100th time. Great policy you got there .What is excuse for theirs? Without reference.

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I've been blocked for reverting the vandalism of adding the origin of surnames to be Serbian. The prove for that can be found in the text, and it seems even the persons who revert it doesn't even hide it. Here are examples:

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interested in the controversies regarding Drljevic, or the other versions of this popular folk song, but it is neither on me or you to judge what others would be interested in or not, nor should the article be modeled as

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Can you send me the text of this law? I am looking at some of the images and a lot of them deal with symbols (but no law), historical symbols or logos of different agencies. Many of these images have no source either.

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The passages were originally based on the English version so if you want, you can also translate directly from the original English version. (this would help make the article sound as Montenegrin as possible)

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There isn't much of a prescribed formula; the flag colours can be used if there's a definitive colour; a solid red in the case of Montenegro, in other cases seat colours are probably more appropriate as in

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Montenegrin language only and Admins don't have anything against it. That's why your edits were reverted. You got confused with Montenegrin Wiki and Montenegrin language. It's not the same thing. Cheers!

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I want to see other 3 (or at least 2) agree on to be "standard of Serbo-Croatian (which by the way, doesn't exists anymore), and I won't be against that. Best is to start discussion on those articles.

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Hi! Well I changed it back to Montenegrin language, not alphabet, because we use that standard on Wiki, and it would be wrong to not do the same on Ulcinj article. It's ok for Italian to stay. Cheers!

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Ok, thank you. I hope if we reach the consensus, you will help us keeping it that way on Knowledge (XXG), as some probably won't know about it and vandalize the articles once again. Best regards.

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Now to the conclusion. You say I need to open a discussion for so radical change to the article? Now you are being rude. Please open discussion, with arguments and we need to reach consensus.

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But I want to see where Knowledge (XXG) agreed as it can't be agreed by one person. Why we can't put it as Cyrillic only like some articles had? A da, Srecan Bozic, Nova Godina .... :D.

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Separate wiki isn't the same as having Montenegrin language on articles, and requests for Montenegrin Wiki was 2 years ago or more, when it wasn't even an official language.

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You didn't ban Tadija. Is there any main Admin on this wikipedia? As it seems that the Serbs never get banned for their vandalism. I've had enough of this discrimination.

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Serb vandalism is not used to insult you ethnicity, don't worry. It is term used when someone is vandalizing article adding "Serbian" and deleting Montenegrin in article.

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Serbdom they are talking about the other name for Eastern Orthodox. Njegos for e.g. mentions that he is part of Serbdom, and in other page he says "we Montenegrins".

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It may be possible they exist and are not used commonly, or maybe they don't exist officially at all. You would have to ask him on his Commons Page. Hope that helps

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Please, stop you reversion of sourced material, POV pushing of Montenegro nationalities, language and church. Your claiming attitude, confront with wikipedia

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ideas? For current (Officeholder), "Incumbent" label bothers me the most, as I found it refers to a politician in office. The rest of the Infobox is perfect.

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template again. If you make too many unconvincing or disruptive unblock requests, you may be prevented from editing this page until your block has expired.

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Yes, you may reply here. Anyways, that is the sheet music I have had for a few years, just trying to see if anything else came about in the past few years.

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Articles in Knowledge (XXG) aren't property, so you cannot claim it for your own, because you dont have the write to prevent anyone from contributing them.

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and not ok here. Ask the copyright holder to change the license to some license that allows commercial reuse and modification or sent the permission to

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That is also not true. I have nowhere removed "Montenegrin" or replaced it with "Serbian" - the only act on my part had included addition of "Serbian"

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to see why this is (you may have to search for the title of the image to find its entry), if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you.

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I am fine with it if it is for all football players articles. Also Montenegro existed before the Yugoslavia, but yeah ;) (regarding the new states).

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The tag can be removed when the problem is resolved with a weblink (the source still indicates "noncommercial" and "nonderivative" which is both

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absurd and silly the Montenegrin government (and the country as well) looks with its attempts to create a new language. For God's sake, even the

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but don´t you beleave me? Don´t you see that the 95% of articles don´t have the Republics names on the infoboxes? Why you think that happends?

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to be doing really well. My thoughts are if we removed the 1RR, I suspect you could continue operating like you do now and stay out of trouble.

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Where did you copy the permission? The file on Flickr is licensed as NOT free for commercial reuse and not free for modification. So its not

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that Montenegrin don't have is one of the main reasons that Montenegrin Wiki has been rejected. ISO code is by far more then just formality.

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It was discussed 1000 times before (not on Constantine, but Montenegrin generally). No matter what, vandals still keep it reverting back.

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I'm afraid I don't know. They were up,loaded to the Commons by User:Bugoslav, I just added them to the Knowledge (XXG) English section:

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for exemple, would be extremely complicated to incorporate in the infobox. I know that some ex-URSS countries have been using, exemple

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between the birth city and country for players born before 1992. The problem is that a discussion regarding this already took place on

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show "Oj, svijetla majska zora" a anthem that is not wanted by the people in Montenegro. I mean what anthem has "Controversy" section?

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Hi. I think it should be PD-ineligible or something similar. I don't think it is copyrightable (this is only an opinion). Regards, --

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and the agreement was to use only city+country formula. One of the main reasons was because the lenght of somne republics names, as

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the process in Knowledge (XXG). I don't have to open up a discussion on the talk page discussion the tremendous expansion -

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Please see the Wiki article on the topic to clear up your confusion. Leave this sort of thing to professional linguists.

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Oh, come on! I thought we were done with all that crap. Please stop. I really don't feel like blocking you yet again.

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the copyright holder is a party unaffiliated from the website's publisher, that copyright should also be acknowledged.

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Ok, I accept it. Also, can you please help with dealing with language issue on noticeboard? Thanks once again! Cheers.

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You are welcome my friend, and thanks, if I would need some translation in Chinese, I would sure contact you.

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Ok, I just don't want to get it deleted since author agreed to publish it on Wiki, and it is a good picture.

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Oh, I totally forgot about that to be honest, some info was removed, even though a lot of it is referenced.

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Can you find in music shops or libraries any official sheet music for the anthem "Ој свијетла мајска зоро"?

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stubbornly holding on to your own (which is the easy way out). Giving an existing language a different name

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Yeah, but I don't think I would check that E-mail so often :/. I can change it so you can send me E-mail?

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You are not listening. The content of the edits is irrelevant; you were edit warring on pages covered by

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Your actions on the article have so far been very non-constructive and damaging to the Knowledge (XXG),

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should open discussion even though there is no logic? Look at the article and judge your self. Cheers!

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To be honest, I don't see any difference. Maybe that affects monitors with lower number of inches?

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The same is for me. I am not sure what we could do to make it better? Maybe to add Task and those?

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to 1RR - the difference is that you wouldn't be in fear of being blocked. It's an offer of trust.

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maintains the term "Serbo-Croatian", even when describing Bosnian. (They don't list Montenegrin.)

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Ok, I turned it on so please just send me message to see your E-mail and then I will answer you.

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stating not to center image captions. There is also no rule against centering image captions in

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Ok, also can you make the infobox like the Greek one for e..g with party picture like this:

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as he is the owner of the company, maybe this template would be more appropriate. Cheers!

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Why? Tell me why is it under Montenegro and not under Albania. Shkoder was its capital. --

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Rave, opušti se - Podgoricanin je sa SkyscraperCity-ja... :D Šta si mislio u vezi Viza?

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I have removed the 1RR on your account and recorded it in both your block log and in

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Tried google, so trying people who live in Montenegro. Thanks for giving it a shot.

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