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Knowledge (XXG); I can't live with it given its present state. There appears to be the matter of a long-standing COI I am aware of but cannot post due to the possibility of outing. If the Committee has interest, I can e-mail the information as I see I will not need to re-open my e-mail to do so.
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I actually thought one of my main points was made above? The last time I tried to discuss on your talk page it was pointless, wasn't it? Why is this any likely to be different? Still nothing done regarding the other user? No, I thought not. Thanks but I have content to write, which no doubt after
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