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whether Geaves is a reliable source and whether this is contentious. I can't see how it could be construed as contentious. This information probably belongs in the Teachings section. The Teachings Section was separated from the Pre Rawat article and given it's own article as you must know. That 'Teachings of PR' article itself reads to me as extremely biased. Not surprising as it was largely compiled by Jossi and Momento. I think that article is in dire need of missing balance too. Whether I have time to work on that is another question. I have a brief hiatus between my return from holiday and getting back to the grist of work. I imagine my time will be quite limited from henceforth. Anyway, I feel more comfortable to take a back seat since Momento has been again exiled. I find the other premie contributors quite reasonable on the whole.
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also available on one of the web archive sites but I wouldn't be surprised if it's been removed from them by now. I guess Jossi may have engineered that when we the same subject came up here a while back and we used that site to support the lineage thing. I'll see if I can dig anything else up when I'm back. BTW I think the Geaves paper is perfectly legimate as a source and that states clearly that the info was on MJ's website. I happen to possess this paper which I could share as pdf on return. cheers.
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fight to get an evidently historical fact recognised in article that erred just a little too far into the realms of revisionism). Seems his input was a one-off though - Wales has stated that he won't be editing the article again (one has to wonder why, considering the splash his edit has made). Perhaps he only wanted to give the impression that he only gives an occasional toss about the misuse of Knowledge by cultists - such as former Wiki golden-boy Jossi Fresco. You advise that
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simply to take a light-hearted break - the latter being my motive for linking to the site in question - a site which does indeed make fun of the "obese cult leader" in question. It is common knowledge among other editors of the article 'Prem Rawat', that you are in fact Mr Rawat's webmaster, and you have declared that you do indeed have a conflict of interest in matters relating to him.
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description of a notable public figure simply because it doesn't conform with your own inflated opinion of him. Contentious material it may be - to those who share your opinion of Prem Rawat - but since when has that been a criterion of what people are allowed to talk about? Remember it is my talkpage that this is about - not a Wiki article.
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I see. So your comment has nothing to do with Knowledge's purpose, but is your own opinion regarding contemporary politics. In that case you should not have removed the limitation. If doublethink was the act of ordinary people in Orwell's mind, it's not for us as editors to redefine the word based on
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No offence taken of course. Goring is nice and quiet compared to the urbanity of Brighton. One thing that's good about Knowledge is that there is this kind of growing understanding (almost like morphic resonance or something?) about practising neutrality. I'm quite enjoying being a part of that noble
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I'm tempted to say something along the lines of: "You chill, brother", but that'd be quite at odds with street credibility. (Mine, that is. I know nothing of the patois in the environs of Brighton, though my sister lives just along the coast in Goring. Probably chalk and cheese. though.) Hope you
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policy. You can check the edit history yourself; this seems to confirm it. I can't comment as to whether his efforts in crafting the policy have any motive other than just making a good working policy, but as I've already said, I think the portion of BLP that's being invoked here may have undesired
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And I've just noticed that you've deleted my response to Travis from your talk-page as well, yet left his accusations there. That is a serious denial of right to reply, Jossi, and you should reinstate my response to FCYTravis' serious accusations immediately. Here, for the record, is what you have
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I was not contesting your change and had no plans to change it back. I was merely talking about reasons to change a Knowledge article and reasons not to, in response to what you said. However, I do object to your personal attack on me. I see you've done this sort of thing before. I don't appreciate
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Could you please try to tone down the jocular postings? It's easy to write comments that sound amusing to oneself, but which fall flat on the written page. Some of your comments about "weasel words" give the appearance of picking a fight. I'm sure that's incorrect. Nevertheless, it'd be best if you
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Hi there Revera - I have extremely limited access to internet as I'm abroad right now and reception is very dodgy. The website was live circa 1990 and was I believe, the one Jossi helped him build. It was taken down at some point but was live for quite a long time around then. I recall that it was
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I can't find any information on HDSK. The "About us" page says they've been around since 1991, but doesn't mention Elan Vital. I'm not sure what to do at this point. The Knowledge article is about Elan Vital. If we have a source connecting them then we can add whatever it says. Maybe we should wait
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I'm not able to change your mind, I can only give you the facts. In Hinduism, and we are talking Gurus here, Gurus are said to be "greater than God" because they lead to God. So if God is the Almighty, the Guru is the Almighty Plus. It's a pity you didn't include this sentence "A Lord is a male who
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That is what I posted, Will. A simple fact. Nothing jocular about it. Then another editor describes me as posting 'weasel words'. I defended myself against that impertinent allegation. Just whose fight are you taking sides with here? The one that Jim Wales started? (which, by the way, was a
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Persistence? Moi? I hardly ever dip a toe into the waters of Wiki, Will. If you don't mind me saying so, you're persistence - personified! (and personally, I think Knowledge's a better place for it). Mind you, there's a couple of old contributors whose return after a lengthy absence is shortly
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And as for your input, FCYTravis: you speak of "violation" and "abuse"? That's pretty strong language. And this is the first I have heard of it. Are your accusations addressed to me? If so why place them on another editor's talk-page? (who is not my 'friend', as you wrongly assume). I request that
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Your censorship of part of my discussion with fellow-editor Mael-Num is quite remarkable. Is this a precedent that you are setting for Knowledge? Are talk-pages going to be subject to the NPOV rule too? Quite frankly it's ridiculous that you should try and abuse our freedom of speech by removing a
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There is an understanding in some sects that if the devotee were presented with the guru and God, first he would pay respect to the guru, since the guru had been instrumental in leading him to God. Gurus are said to be greater than God because they lead to God. Some traditions claim "Guru, God and
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Hmmm, I guess I'll just have to respect your respect for Judge Dredd! But what do you make of Jossi's apparent attempt to emulate him? It appears to me that he's just removed all reference to the WP:BLP discussion from his talk page. At least, I can't seem to find it, though it was there a few
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You should be able to say what you'd like on your own talk page. Moreover, you should be able to say what was removed because it's not being presented as factual (which is the case in a biographical article, and arguably talk pages related to that article) and the only comment that is related to
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Rest assured, I have taken the trouble of preparing myself for what I consider to be a serious and responsible task - and touchstones from the links you so kindly reminded me of are ones that I intend to keep in mind whenever contributing to this project. I'd like to post them here, if only as a
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All that aside, I just don't like the way that phrase in the BLP is being applied here. It should be struck, as it can be (and in this case, is being) used to censor speech in a manner that is at the very least counterproductive to the goals of Knowledge. Such a rule could be invoked by anyone
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Thanks Revera. Interesting to be able to see the whole site preserved in the 'Akashic Records' or internet equivalent! As you can see I've re-opened the discussion. I think that this source simply lends weight to the idea that it is relevant to include the information. The question only remains
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Whether you consider the site I linked to be poorly researched or not, you should not have the right to interfere with my communication with another editor in this way. Editors need to refer to other sites for many reasons - for research, to gain another perspective on a subject, even sometimes
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I see that you, Jossi, have taken the liberty of censoring part of a discussion I had with another editor on my talk-page. You did this with no warning, and no explanation other than to cite WP-BLP- 'Remove unsourced or poorly sourced contentious material'. You removed two things - a link to an
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Momento, you have selected some quotes that support your opinion. But in doing so you make transparent your bias. It's blatantly clear that, by omitting quotes that demonstrate that Rawat made claims to divinity which are relevant and notable, a very bright spotlight is shone on the supposed
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Honestly, I'm not sure how that would apply here. You make an excellent argument that the information, as presented, is not biographical in nature. In the spirit of what Jimbo recommended (which is what BLP policy was written to formalize), there's nothing wrong going on here. You're not
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Trolling? Jossi, that is so far from reality, I can hardly believe you're accusing me of it. The facts are these: 1. You censored my talkpage. 2. I asked you why you had done so. 3. You neglected to answer me. 4. I requested that you address my question. 5. You deleted my question from the
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Sorry for the long delay in replying, I rarely log in to wikipedia these days. To answer your question, the topical mention of IDS was just an aside, though as an accomplished proponent of doublethink, he's a fine example. For someone with his political record to identify with being a
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Boy, oh boy, the Knowledge policy on this competes with the best Dutch cheeses! (and no, I'm not attacking you, I'm drawing attention to the vagiaries of Wiki-policy. And I wasn't attacking Jossi either. My intention was to bring attention to his evident evasion of Wikipedian
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We are all entitled to our opinions, and we should be free to express those opinions to each other on our talkpages. You seem to think you can take it on yourself to police my communications with a fellow editor in such a high-handed manner, it almost beggars belief!
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has always been a prominent feature of Guru Maharaj Ji/Prem Rawat's claim to fame. Those of us who might have a better understanding of history - and how it can repeat itself - might care to take that into consideration. Especially given his 'messianic' history!
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I think the best place for a discussion about the pensions article is the Talk page of the article itself. I actually think there are pros and cons of CPI and wage inflation as measures of the pension worth, and would be happy to contribute on the talk page.
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That is more than a claim to being able to "lead people to God" (and by the perverse semi-logic that some Hindu teachings apply, thereby being 'greater than'). Rawat was not just any old Hindu guru who, in their controversial arrogance, liked to claim to be
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Show me a quote where Orwell implies that doublethink can only be used by "ordinary people". Then show me evidence that a politician like IDS thinks of himself as ordinary. Then take your perceived "Crimethink" back to the Ministry of Love and chew on it!
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I agree with your removing the limitation. But could you explain what you're talking about with the rest of it (Iain Duncan Smith, etc.)? I don't understand the reference. I understand he's a British politician. But what has this to do with editing the
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Rawat (obese) was presented in a humorous style, which is parody and therefore protected speech which is not defamatory by legal standards. At least not in the US. Even if it wasn't considered parody, it's true and correct, so either way you win.
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Thank you for taking the time to express your kind words on my talk page. I've found that making a stand for what I feel is right can sometimes be frustrating when facing an entrenched opposition. Your encouraging note helped make a difference.
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Good grief! Despite your efforts to remove this issue from the records, your actions are saying a great deal more about you - and your methods of stifling debate - than you might realise. And are you going to attempt to delete even
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located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you!
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effects and consequences. For that reason alone, I think it should be revisited. You know, even though we're not admins here, we can have input in Knowledge's policies. You may want to take this up on BLP's talk page.
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I can't tell you what to do at this point, but like I said and detailed above, I think you've got at least a few pretty good reasons why you should be able to preserve what was written on your page if you choose to.
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Try to focus on the content and not the contributors. I understand it can be a heated and touchy topic, however insults and related commentary about other editors is unwelcome on Knowledge. Please try to keep your
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don't take too much offense at my comment on the Prem Rawat talkpage following your recent comment, but partisan ain't the way, I'm sure you'd agree, no matter how much our histories might coincide. Be well.
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I recently (6th May) asked you several questions about your censorship of my talk-page in relation to WP:BLP and contentious material. As you have not yet addressed that question I consider the matter to be
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Jossi, you evidently have much time at your disposal to edit here. I don't. But I hope both of us can respect the spirit (at least) of the excerpts from the Knowledge guidelines that I've posted above.
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It's been four days since my request. In the absence of any action/response from you to my concerns above, Jossi, I have restored the paragraph to its original form myself. Revera 07:41, 6 May 2007 (UTC)
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Also interesting that my observations and questions re. Jossi were judged by you as "personal attack". I could say the same of your accusation of me, couldn't I? But that wouldn't be NPOV, would it!
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Your response does not answer my question. Either your sophistry is bordering on being willfully deceptive, or perhaps you are simply in denial. Neither should be attributes of a Knowledge editor.
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seeking to produce a chilling effect towards critics of any given biographical subject, throwing all hopes for NPOV out the window. That and I've never been partial to the thought police.
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I find battling with Rawat's promotion team can get a bit too time-consuming (not that I get too caught up in it). For a breather, I like to take a look at contributions to sites like
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Thanks for your persistence. I also checked the HDSK website and after much searching found a page there that mentions Elan Vital too. I've added a sentence to cover the name change.
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Self (Self meaning soul, not personality) are one and the same. In this context, saints and poets in India, have expressed their views about the relationship between Guru and God:
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thanks for the suggestion, Andries, but personally, I find that identifying with labels such as "Wikipedian" and "ex-premie" doesn't really float my boat, if you get my drift!
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But you have NOT told me, Jossi. By your own admission you responded to Andries, whose involvement in this I was not even aware of until today. Why respond to him, and not me?
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It is not asserted that the most popular view or some sort of intermediate view among the different views is the correct one. Readers are left to form their own opinions.
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As the name suggests the neutral point of view is a point of view. It is a point of view that is neutral - that is neither sympathetic nor in opposition to its subject.
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any further communication you wish to have with me on this matter be put on my own talk-page, rather than his. That way I might see it. Revera 21:01, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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and then indicate in the "party agreement" section whether you would agree to participate. Discussion relating to the mediation request welcome at the case talk page.
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Again, thank you. When life's getting to you, there's nothing quite like a picture of an obese cult leader in a funny hat to turn a frown upside-down. ;)
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Can it really be true that Jossi is the one who's re-writing the self-same BLP Policy? Does he know what the word "contentious" means? Is Judge Dredd (
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afterthought - if an editor abuses Knowledge guidelines, and is 'brought to task' for having done so, does that constitute 'personal attack"? Hmmm?
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No, momento, Lord God, Lord almighty, God almighty, Lord all-powerful - all are terms which any sane person would accept refer to the same thing.
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Thanks. If we can find a source that connects the two then we can add something to the article. A web redirect probably isn't sufficient.
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Doesn't change the fact that, over his "career" as a whole, the media has often described Rawat as a cult leader, as Jim Wales observed.'
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Kindly reinstate my response as it was originally given Jossi. If you refuse to do so, then heaven help the future of Knowledge.
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and if you feel unable to comment in a civil fashion, focus on other wiki articles and tasks until you feel calmer. Be well.
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was recently filed. As an editor concerned in this dispute, you are invited to participate in the mediation. The process of
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I'd love to see you try and explain how the meaning of the words "The Lord all powerful" and "God" are so very different!
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is entirely voluntary and focuses exclusively on the content issues over which there is disagreement. Please review the
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And as an aside, I like Judge Dredd. Even the Stallone movie. I smile every time I hear his "I am the law!" line. ;)
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Momento, he was educated in a Catholic College and was addressing an American audience at the time he claimed to be
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You need to explain yourself Jossi, and your actions - after your break, naturally. Revera 20:48, 14 May 2007 (UTC)
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anticipated. I wonder what the future holds for all the Rawat-related articles! It'll be interesting to watch.
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Thank you very much for the link to this article. It would have otherwise slipped completely under my radar.
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Feel free to ask me anything the links and talk pages don't answer. You can most easily reach me by posting on
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https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/mar/21/iain-duncan-smith-empty-truth-compassionate-conservatism
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and a reference made by the other editor to an "obese cult leader", replacing both with "..." (an ellipsis).
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Just for the record, Jossi has been blocked indefinitely for "abusively using one or more accounts". See
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I request that you restore the passage in question to its original form. Revera 19:12, 2 May 2007 (UTC)
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Well, Vassyana, it's interesting to note that my suggestion is now being taken more seriously, viz:
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P.S. I've just read something in which the author makes a point which I wish I had found earlier:
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has power and authority. It can have different meanings depending on the context of use". Exactly.
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This is the full text of what I said to Jossi, upon hearing him declare his conflict of interest:
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Thank you for your welcome, Jossi, but since when has editing an encylopedia been down to luck?
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I look forward to any further light you might be able to shed on this when you're back, Pat.
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Thanks for responding - and so quickly! I've given Jossi something to think about at
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Yet more censorship by Jossi - he has now removed the following from his talk page:
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Words can often play second-fiddle when faced with a good picture essay! Regards,
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Have removed limitation in the wake of Iain Duncan Smith's resignation yesterday.
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No obligation to contribute, is there? I don't know what you're thanking me for!
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And now my attempt to get to the bottom of this is, according to you, "trolling"?
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our own experiences or opinions, or based on our view of subsequent history. -
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Blimey! No sooner have I written that, than I find what we're looking for:
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If you'll indulge an old hand who's been a long time AWOL, how goes the war?
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22:49, 27 February 2007 (UTC Source for the term "cult leader" is Saul Levine
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It seems he archived it with the last comment being made on 18 April, see -
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All significant points of view are presented, not just the most popular one.
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concerning Prem Rawat 5, to which you were listed as a party, has been
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What's more - when you moved the section to your archive, you in fact
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It's my great fortune that I found Satguru, all my doubts are removed.
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Here are some useful tips to ease you into the Knowledge experience:
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details the passage you have 'disappeared' What's the game, Jossi?
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I have nothing else to tell you that I have not told you already.
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On WP's 'Elan Vital' page, the link to their UK site is given as
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until the situation is clearer, but I'm open minded about it.
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I wonder how the following got left off his so-called 'archive'?
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Guru and God both appear before me. To whom should I prostrate?
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Also, here are some pointers to learn more about this project:
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No. I have selected quotes that represent Rawat's view on God.
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War? Well, there's war and there's war (words vs swords?)
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Hi there. In case you didn't know, when you add content to
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