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resources on but few people care to add -- textual criticism and story theory. Just adding sources to document little fought areas might be a good way to take a break and still benefit the Encyclopedia. While many people have agedas on "Christianity", I've found that not so many have agendas on which text forms map to which manuscripts -- or which story theory agrees with Aristotle and which with Jung! I think what I'm trying to say is that Knowledge (XXG) is a big place. The least controversial areas are sometimes the best places to take a vacation in. There's always a book on your shelf that can supply some footnote somewhere!

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abroad . I am a professor of cultural history at a Ukrainian university in Odessa. My students are actually depending on the Internet and encyclopedic sources like Knowledge (XXG), Wikibook, Wikiversity, and others. Sometimes I ask myself why we have to live from these huge mountains of ecclectic or low-quality material - kind of like the poor on the garbage hills of Cairo. But then I have to realize that we have no other choice and we become thankful again...

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material alone, black was hardly worse), you focus too narrowly on one mainline continuation of Nc6, and the drastic conclusion about it by the GM. I noticed you've been very active on the article and improved it a lot, while I just "drove by and edited", so I have no intention of getting into an edit war over this, but I at least wanted to state my doubts and hear what you think about it.

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one mainline (like the one you quoted, 18 dxc6 Qxc6 19 Bg2 Qc8 20 Rf1 Qf5+ 21 Qxf5 gxf5 22 Rxf5), you beg the question "what about other continuations after Nc6?". Because of that problem, I was trying to phrase it more generally, mentioning the positional disadvantage of black since /any/ position that could result from 17... Nc6 seems to be worse for black.

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enormous effort to get any changes through. I've taken a step back and decided: why bother, it's too hard, my time's not worth it. I've resigned myself to the fact that Knowledge (XXG) (like the Internet in general) can only ever be an error-riddled resource, and given up trying to help improve it. Peter 11:45, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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Oh I see. But I think that level of detail is not required in that article anyway. For the purposes of the Grand Swiss article, it doesn't matter how Caruana qualified, all that matters is he had qualified; i.e. the text would be the same if runner-up had been Ding Liren or Radjabov. (In my opinion!)

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doesn't really work. In a chess game score context "1-0" does not mean the player from the first team won, it universally means White won. This is not a more standard use of notation and doesn't really work in this context. I think it's worth looking for something better than the previous notation,

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Hi, I am pretty sure that you are on a Wikibreak at the moment but thought I'd draw your attention to category/article/whatever it is. You have previously commented on it. IMHO zero evidence exists to suggest that such a category exists. It looks like a random, fanciful list of old money families. I

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a 2009 (32 years after the event) POV quote (and itself lacking verification). But, not to worry--will you now use it also to cite "Bob Hawke crie as he confesse to being an alcoholic and an adulterer on Clive Robertson's Newsworld (1989)" ? Or would you rather have someone else insert that? Cheers

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How are you? I closed the merge discussion and archived it. It has been going for three months, and another editor voted for support. There seems to be a very strong consensus for updating or removing or merging one article into another, and/or making this article disamg page and improving the other

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I'd also be interested to see what CL said about Tal, because that seems to be missing. I know from the Brady ref (which I added today) that CL picked Fischer. The short version of your old edits based on CL seem to be: Petrosian draws too much, Keres is too old, Korchnoi and Geller are too erratic,

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recently, but that one bothered me the least because there I think we've got well meaning editors with very different pespectives). There was a common theme: I was trying to improve pages, and my efforts were either in vain (changes reverted, talk page suggestions ignored), or it took (or is taking)

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Hey there, yeah no worries. I've been patrolling pages as part of the backlog drive which I am somewhat new at. The article had no citations and it was unclear why it wasn't part of the existing chess articles but looks like it's back and you can have some time/space to add some references if you'd

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First, I think you made a mistake while editing in your reference, at the moment it's simply a link to an edit command of the section itself. But nevermind, I'm sure there is a GM that said it is hopeless. The problem I see with your summary (and which I tried to avoid) is this: by concentrating on

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IMO sometimes these events become big news stories which haunt political figures for years, and so deserve to be mentioned factually and neutrally on WP so people can go to WP to get the facts. On that basis I've argued in the past for inclusion of Rudd's stripclub episode. Whether this is the case

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Those issues are not for a Wiki article, but they are serious issues that provide grounds for mutual tolerance among believers. Don's no man to compromise the scriptures. The thought is laughable. To a university audience in Sydney, I heard him say, "sending single women as missionary pastors is an

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I was a bit player in university missions myself for a little over a decade: I agree with Don. It's a very serious issue to raise gender issues to an importance that competes with the intrinsic offense of the Gospel itself. I'm not a six 24 hour Genesis 1 literalist, though I respect those who are.

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accordingly) – So is now at 2760 and Aronian at 2772, and the difference of their sums from February to November is only 16, so it now seems quite likely that Aronian will be overtaking So at the 10th rank in the average from February to January. That could become relevant, since after his massive

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and invited me to do more. (To which I reply: with not too much more work and rearranging, I think we could make that article reasonable). But Tim, I'll decline your offer. I probably don't know enough about the different theologies to be able to contribute easily anyway. Peter 02:01, 18 May 2009

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is one of the areas I've read very widely in and care about for the sake of another Wiki project. Ultimately, it's one of my very highest priority articles to edit, and a place I can contribute more than any other at Wiki. However, what I will be wanting, when I start work, is responsible editors

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I just noticed your efforts at a couple of articles. I added a bit to the article above, perhaps you could improve my contrib a bit: correct, expand, source or whatever. Certainly let me know if anything seems unreliable. I'm guessing we're on different sides of the fence in that debate, but both

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All it says is "01:17 2Peter 3:2 01:18 Isaiah 3:4; 2Peter 3:3". It doesn't say Jude quotes 2 Peter (or vice versa), it just says there is a correspondence between the two. So the editor had (a) misinterpreted the source, and (b) presented the (alleged) conclusions as fact ("However, Jude 1:17-18

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Since you weren't satisfied with 1 reference citing the connection between 2Peter and Jude I've added a second ref to the first, and I'm prepared to add as many as needed, since this is a well known and notable parallel in contrast to the assertion made about Jude primacy. If you delete it again

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Hi Peter -- I just responded to a good question you raised on the Nestle-Aland talk page. I agree that Knowledge (XXG) is a mixed bag, and I've had to retreat myself. You're quite right that there are too many people with too many agendas. I'm lately looking into two areas that I have a lot of

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Heh, one of my favourite Bible verses, but I'd never thought to apply it to Knowledge (XXG) before! My advice to you and your students: by all means use Knowledge (XXG). It is a wonderful resource. But (1) check anything you read on it! i.e. check the references. And (2) be aware of bias, i.e. be

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The earlier version (I think by you) said something like "significant positional disadvantage for black". My problem with those words is that I felt they were not strong enough, they don't (at least for me) convey the point that black is totally lost, which every commentator I've seen agrees on.

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Hey Peter, of course I understand your frustration and even share your feelings. But-- with all respect for what you have gone through, please have in mind that we, Knowledge (XXG) readers in the Third World have verbally no local access to relevant print media and/or no funds to order them from

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For that graph generator, the conflict I encounter was that someone complained that the text was not attributed, so I put citations to the original source after every sentence. After that someone else said that it was foolish to put the same citation after every sentence of an article, so they

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In conclusion, I don't challenge the point that the game was lost, as far as we can see and, more importantly, as far as we can find others saying so. But I'd say your phrasing is a bit too strong, and instead of saying /why/ it was lost (which was, in fact, a positional disadvantage, since by

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I understand where you're coming from, it's partly the reason why i've retreated to the nice and quiet tranquility of SA politics pages these days. There's still much room for improvement on Premier's pages if you ever feel the need to scratch a wikipedia itch at some point in the future.

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Indeed, I can attest to the benefits of editing in low traffic areas - I edit heavily on WA topics where I'm often the only editor, although I've been able to solicit neutral reviews of my work where necessary. It'd be a shame to lose you to the void, and I wish you the best.

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Yup, you've really said it all. It's not that such well-known aberrations (like the much more embarrassing ones of say Churchill or JFK) are without interest to political opponents; but they are rarely of notable relevance to the real substance of the persons, eh? Cheers

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Your edit comment says: "lower house seats have always been single member". Although it's somewhat dependent on what you mean by "always", it's not necessarily true that "lower house seats have always been single member". Prior to 1938 there are many examples:

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I anticipate it will be more than a year before I start work, though. Others might get it all done sooner, which would be great, but I'm just putting out feelers in case, as seems more likely, there is little work done in the meantime on the actual

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denotes a quotation from Second Peter 3:3"). That's why I deleted it. Accusing me of POV is silly. The new wording is better - it says "possibly", and quotes a much more widely known source (Word Biblical Commentary). Peter 23:47, 14 May 2009 (UTC)

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Another case in point for you is for example is GM Alejandro Ramirez commentary on chessbase, who calls one of the possible 17... Nc6 continuations "hopeless when you play someone of Anand's caliber. Or even a little less"

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Mind you the ABC source I give is wildly opinionated. The SMH article, puff piece that it is, does illustrate the point being made in the WP article - that it was a well known incident. Peter 04:41, 3 July 2009

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I haven't really considered the current text of the article in detail, but we probably have different views of what that namespace should contain. Many people may think it should simply be a transclusion of

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I've tried to work on fixing these things and improving Knowledge (XXG), but the tide is too great. It's a lost cause. I've got better things to do with my time. Peter 04:20, 16 February 2009 (UTC)

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What's happened to make you feel such a way? Was it any pages in particular? What pushed you over the line? It's a real shame that Knowledge (XXG) appears to have lost yet another good SA editor.

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aware that many Knowledge (XXG) articles have bias (deliberate or otherwise), or simply are badly written, with irrelevant material mixed in with useful material. Peter 06:49, 5 March 2009 (UTC)

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Benko and Filip don't have strong enough recent results. But there's nothing about Tal. If you look at the Brady ref, the quotes seems to be about why they were picking Fischer ahead of Tal.

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I've come to the conclusion that, while it is a really good resource, Knowledge (XXG) will never be more than an indiscriminate collection of information, contrary to its stated aim (

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for Kerr is debatable, because it's less recent history (he's been dead for 17 years). You can remove it if you want, I don't care either way. Peter 12:18, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

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that encompasses preserving the editing history, which is required by Knowledge (XXG)'s licence. Please don't create copy and paste drafts again, as they violate copyright.

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You gotta be kidding me. Two people (who could very well be one) doesn't make "consensus". Do you want me to show you a five-people consensus and then you'd leave it alone?

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Hi. Hit the "new section" button to send me a message. Unless there is a delay (say, more than 2 days) in me responding - or unless you request otherwise - I will reply on

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article that doesn't deal with Hebrew, Aramaic, Greek and receptor languages (including those other than English) is not actually dealing with the topic of the article.

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Belatedly I found this interesting quote, courtesy of Michael Marlowe's eagle eye. Responding to criticism, "our Don" (I mean this genuinely and affectionately) said,

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I'll add a third reference. And if you delete it again I'll add a fourth. Your call. Deleting referenced information simply because you don’t like it is POV.

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Sorry, I thought the Chess Life reference referred to Benko only. Feel free to restore; though if it's all CL's opinion maybe that should be made clearer.

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is not a reliable source, then pretty well every cricket article on Knowledge (XXG) will need to be edited. Anyway, I've added the Canberra Times as well.

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The poll is reopen for one more day so please take time to vote. just out of interest, how did you hear about the poll? Did someone contact you by email?

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But what we can note as objective facts here is one thing, what unrestricted editing by people who don't appreciate these facts might lead to is another.

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I am not sure which edit you mean, but I explain my edits in the edit summaries. If you have a specific issue in mind, I'll be happy to discuss.

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committed to NPOV treatment of issues. Just the sort of combination that can actually achieve progress at Wiki. Hope to hear from you. God bless

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What pushed me over the line was about 5 different pages over a few days, under quite different topics. (I did actually cross swords with you at

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Hmm, I think I detect some sarcasm. Are you saying it really shouldn't be in there? I agree the source isn't that good, but here's a better one

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representing "the educated reader". Peter strikes me as precisely that; and, even better, one who has a slightly different view of things to me.

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tools, as having some issues to fix. Please add categories. Also, wikilink the article on other pages. If and when you get the time, that is.

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but I don't really know how to proceed now. I'm staggered that this page is still kicking around! Any comments would be greatly appreciated.

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Do me a favor and show me where is it then! Until then I reserve the right to protect the page against vandalism. Oh wait, it's actually

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It is just that no one has done it! There is no special reason. It would need an editor very interested in Chess Olympiads, I think.

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By the way, are you sure that Baukham's Word Commentary says that Jude 17-18 quotes 2 Peter? Part of the book is browsable at Amazon

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https://en.wikipedia.org/Talk:World_Chess_Championship_2021#Wikipedia_bias_against_Russian_sportspeople_and_its_own_rules_violation

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without proper attribution of the original contents, and so are copyright violations. If the article does get split, there is a

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article. I'll check it again when I have the time, but don't be surprised if I restore most or all of what you excised.

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My mistake. I got a bit lazy because it was a draft. I certainly intended to do the split correctly if the time comes.

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This was deliberate, because the dab page seemed more informative; the reader could then explore all of the 3 links at

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This work has already been done in hundreds of topic specific reliable sources and is addressed by thousands of others.

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Admittedly the article was pretty rough when you found it, but I intend to move it back into main space later today.

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Probably. There's always an issue in ensuring images really are free to use, so I always leave it to someone else :)

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Hi there Adpete. I don't believe we've ever interacted directly. I'm KyleJoan. Pleased to make your acquaintance! I

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I didn't know that! But still, I can't see how the sentence I deleted was in any way relevant to the 1989 election.

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But how awkward it can be to know how to avoid compromising the scriptures while avoiding compromising the Gospel.

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Fair point. Probably the ideal is to use colored boxes and a simple 1, 0 or 1/2, like in most WC matches, e.g.

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win against Carlsen in the Fischer Random championship So might be a natural candidate for the wild card.

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I finally figured it out and have the category for deletion. Please take a look when you have a chance.

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Thanks. I was puzzled by your objection, but now it makes sense. Thanks for replying and clearing it up.

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Actually, it turns out that FIDE amended the November ratings of So, Aronian and Mamedyarov (I updated

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Yeah, I may return to quietly adding stuff once I've calmed down. Peter 05:41, 17 February 2009 (UTC)

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