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these are unknown by non-Hungarian people. I collected these results - and in some cases a little bit improved after consulting some linguists. The result: I cannot cite this book here. But that is OK. I seriously think if I had used this week for making a journal article, it could have been much more efficient. I am interested in your opinion, however, I do not use the WP regularly as logged in user, especially after this week. If you want, we can communicate in email as well. My address: hosszu@eet.bme.hu -
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Hungarians by chasing wild geese like "Carpathian Basin" and "Khazarian" scripts. You and I communicated in a friendly fashion as far back as 1998. But what you have been doing since before the Dublin meeting of WG2 (after you broke the agreement made in Budapest) has been just one act of bad faith after another. It is regrettable. But I guarantee to you, I shall not support the encoding of fictions, nor the uploading of fictions into the English Knowledge. --
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my works were qualified "pseudo-scientific" and I also got many offensive and hurtful attributes from people (e.g. "crank author"), who are definitely not familiar with the Rovas scripts and generally they do not have any real concept about this topic. Finally, they realized that my statements are based on real references. The best what they said: "This individual artefact may scrape the notability criteria". This is far from the due process. -
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in an attempt to preserve the content that is the subject of multiple AfD discussions, where the consensus is overwhelmingly to deleteâincluding three new ones in the last 24 hours. They too are are now at AfD along with the previous six. This is becoming very disruptive. Please refrain from creating
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Dougweller acknowledged that blocking my account was based on a mistake (see his last message in this page), I never removed any AfD template. I was also abused multiple accounts, but I did not do so. Moreover, this accusation was not proved or supported by any fact. Rovasscript (talk) 12:25, 29
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Hi! I am not familiar with all the rules of the
Knowledge. The problem is that all of my contributions were deleted without any real, justified reason. I do not make any edit war. I simply included some information with many references to officially acknowledged scholars. Naturally, they could make
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Thank you; however, I am disappointed due to this present campaign against the Rovas scripts. I was working contiguously for one week, I tried to be as accurate as possible. I think several WP articles are not so precise, and the result: these articles were deleted. During the so-called discussion,
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articles, you cannot find any word, expression or content in them, which is not scientific. I have read that you found some materials about the
Hungarian nationalism. In fact, in every country there are nationalists; however, you cannot find any nationalist thing in my works. Consequently, my works
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I am not going to create any more article during the AfD process. I created only four new articles. These articles about four important - and well-known - relics. These new articles are not long, but contain important information. Their references are third party publications, results of officially
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Dear Dab, I already declared my will to fulfill the requirements of the
Knowledge. I also clarified that my book is mainly summary of published results of Hungarian scholars. However, based on your critics, I minimized the number of links to materials written by me (deleted almost all of them). (It
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Hungarian literature about the Rovas that is difficult to appreciate for non-Hungarian speakers. But you cannot just upload pages from your book to Wikimedia commons simply on the basis that your book is "respected" in Hungary. That's not how it works at all. You need to
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I'm not sure what you mean by "why you dominated for deletion these four pages" Do you mean "nominated"? In any I case, I did not nominate any of them. Another editor did. I suggest you discuss these issues at the current AfD discussions (all eight of them). I am merely pointing out here that you
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Hungarian paleography in the middle of the 20th century. In the last decades, many new archaeological finds and valuable scientific theories were created by officially acknowledged scholars. However,
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reference to my published works in the Knowledge are removed from the Rovas articles. I do not understand what is the problem with these articles? Especially, what is the reason of the AfD in these articles? Please, clarify me, since you did not described the reason of the AfD.
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a user some hours ago deleted the clear majority of its content. Is it correct? The deleted content was supported by many third party references. Much more references that is usual in a Knowledge content. I undid it, so the article currently shows what I edited. Thanks, Gabor
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is less known in the English literature that the huge number of Hungarian publications have not been translated. That is why these Rovas articles could be useful. Please, let me know, if you are interested in the Rovas scripts, I inform you with pleasure.
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continue to create articles on subjects which are already under dispute. They appear to be attempts to push your point of view and research (even if you remove the reference to it from the articles) and as such this is becoming disruptive.
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are useful for comparing these scripts. Their whole contents are based on the publications of acknowledged scholars (only one reference to my book was inserted by another person, not me - delete if think so). The article
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I did not delete the AfD. I erasured text of the article below the AfD notice. I did not know that I cannot delete the text what I wrote. From this time, I request the deletion of the article
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There is no evidence that a "Carpathian Basin" script existed. And kindly cease to try to inject your term "Rovas" into the English language. This is not the term we used in English for the
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and this debate is independent from the question of nationalism. I am sure that these Rovas scripts are heritage of the humanity, not only a nation.
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