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for socket puppetry. Why those administrators applied double standards, I don't know. You have been blocked afterwards for "celebrating your victory" with Marty
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Hi there! A while ago, you submitted a proposal to deal with red links on dab pages. The proposal was declined, and currently the MOSDAB still states that red links can only be included when they have backlinks. Good as it may sound it theory, the rule has a side effect of impeding productivity of
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Sigh. Given the sockpuppetry, personal attacks, and deeply polarized opinions and entrenched positions, I doubt "informal mediation" is going to work on MOSNUM. Even if it does, it will not have any "authority" behind it and will be dismantled in a few months when another Greg L shows up and tries
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vibe when I was studying robotics in 2002-3; my adviser somehow decided "one of these things is not like the others" and started beating me up just to prove he could, so I'm waiting for him to leave before I do anything else. I passed the PhD exams and took the classes, so hopefully won't take too
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also says it is a sock of NotSarenne. The same goes for NotFnagaton's block comment. Note the block comment for
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status. What next? Especially where there are many glaring issues that need addressing, it’s tempting to just revoke its GA status and remove it from the list, but although we are encouraged as editors to be bold, this approach (known to some as "bold delisting") is not recommended good practice.
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After robotics and related fields, I like learning about the "evolutionary trend", as Steven Pinker puts it, in anthropology and psychology, so feel free to educate me about anthropology at any time. If you can wield those arguments correctly, it's sometimes magic at dispute-resolution. - Dan
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a year ago). I think we need to go to formal mediation for a decision to "stick" (and I think they have better checks and balances against sockpuppetry nonsense). There have been several tentatively stable solutions over the last few years, but none has stayed for very long. —
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Hey I just recently did an article on Bruce
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