4293:, I would agree with you. But that's not the case here. Again, there's nothing at all in any copyright laws I'm aware of, anywhere, requiring active hypertext links, and again I've already said that I agree its okay for Wikipedians to be safer than sorrier on the issue, even if the results are a bit annoying. And en.wp doesn't care about .se laws, since the servers aren't hosted there. It's utterly impossible for the foundation to attempt to comply with every legal regime in the world, since they conflict is tens of thousands of ways. Anyway, I don't see why we're arguing about it at all. I've already agreed not to change any more templates to use a blank
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reason for the possibly "bitey" comments etc. Also because you have made so many responses to the opposes does not look good and some people will oppose just based on this. It is best to only correct factual errors in oppose rationales and let others argue your case. Also your huge bold signature all over the page draws far too much attention to yourself, this gets people annoyed. I happen to think you would be a great admin but RfA appears to have become a game of populartity/know the right people/never upset anyone.
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its origin (per your examples above) but on its general use and acceptability. Consider trendy spellings of traditional names, or the use of the letter 'u' instead of the word 'you' - these make me wince and I'd love to call them mis-spellings ;). So basically, I've generally tended to reserve mis-spelling class for obvious cases and used the more general class where doubt exists. Thanks for fixing the link to the missing template, I'm more than happy to defer to your judgment here. -
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licenses readily available. If we don't link to the image page it takes specialised technical knowledge to find the image page. Thus that means we are hiding away the attribution and license. Copyright law says we must abide by what the image license says, even if it says we should jump on one leg and scream "
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a problematic passage, and without any way to be really clear about precisely what needs clarifying (the last two words? the last three sentences?) As for the underlining, maybe it stays, maybe it goes. My money is on "goes" just because of my memory of innumerable reader-bugging templates that have
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is useful for flagging more than one of them, whether in one sentence or not. It's also, entirely incidentally, useful for flagging one specific one where it might be unclear to what extent multiple facts in one sentence are unsourced. Anyway, I'm not going to go on until I hear back from you on what
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Sure, the author name and license for that image are available here. We got 866,849 image pages here at
Knowledge (XXG), and another 5,818,319 over at Wikimedia Commons, you are free to search through them to find that author name and license. And you are free to hire some computer geek that can help
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In the process of looking over all the pages of stats generatable by the tool box in my RfA page, I noticed on that listed off my accounts across the project and their relationship. All of them seemed normal (either created by SUL or created independently before that), with the sole exception of user
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I have withdrawn my question, following advice from an admin! I had withdrawn it from another open RfA, and was going to do so on your when my browser crashed. When I got back, I then saw that you'd answered it a bit ago. If you want the question and your answer to remain, feel free to revert it, but
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Thanks. That means a lot, actually. My skin's pretty thick, and I don't mind genuinely constructive criticism, but outright hate from 3 or 4 years ago, and blatantly false accusations are a bit hard to swallow, so it hasn't been a happy morning for me. :-) I was skeptical about accepting a nomination
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I would certainly never do that on purpose! Lemme go look... I wouldn't touch anything of anyone else's in an RfA other than to fix the numbering of the entries or something like that. I was probably a copy-paste error on my part. I don't remember seeing your note at all. At this point I don't care
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Hey there. Saw your post on Tony1's talk page, and I wish you the best of luck with your RfA. I just wanted to let you know that some voters at RfA will oppose for the type of post you made to
Noetica, Pmanderson, and Tony1's talk pages. I would advise you to undo your edits so that your RfA won't be
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I understand the distinction you are making between an alternate spelling and a mis-spelling. Myself, I would consider mis-spelling to be a subclass of alternate spelling. The 'correctness' of any given alternate spelling (and therefore the applicability of the mis-spelling tag) depends not only on
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You cut the "Or not". My difficulty here is that I don't know if the "Or not" was from Fowler or from an editor here. If from Fowler, probably best left, if not, best cut, but we are not quoting the whole of Fowler, nor should we, so it could be just to cut it even if it is in Fowler (and it would be
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I'd be honored! Fuhghettaboutit's also doing one, and several others have offered to co-nom over the last few years. Not sure what to do with that many co-noms, but I'd love to have yours because of your depth of experience, and
Fughettaboutit's because of our long collaboration and his, in my view,
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Answering your last questions first, I had no specific agenda in mind, but your positive responses above and most notably your honesty (honesty, I think, is a really good thing in an admin and at RfA) especially combined with your humility (gosh, you admin you've got things wrong in the past) make me
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In this instance, you misconstrues something like blame for what was in fact cooperation. The irony is bitter, but not wrong. I reject the tone, but I accept the accuracy and timeliness of words I could have written myself. What I need now is a kind of alchemy which converts it all into something
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means, in
Wikipedianese?" mode is in fact a selfref, per "if it walks like a duck..." logic. This is one reason our inline templates are so succinct and plain-English (with a few exceptions that need fixing). I.e. they say things like "citation needed" or "dubious" instead of "fix per V & RS" or
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Okay. My stance is that the issue hasn't been important to me personally (I even have bigger usability/accessibility/standards compliance issues here than that one), but if multiple people want to have a discussion about it, I'll be happy to participate. I'm not in a position to champion one side or
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to that information. If that were the case, the entire
Internet would collapse, since all the free software in the world would be illegal for using code comments to provide attrib. and lic. info instead of having the end-product applications provide links to it. I guess we'd have to get rid of books
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I'd forgotten about that. I don't actually agree with that legal analysis at all, but I do recall that it is the one that consensus has settled on. I don't agree because simply providing the location of attribution and licensing information is sufficient; there is nothing at all in copyright law to
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before!) as well as fruitfully collaborated. Noetica was notified because he is mentioned by name, with a claim about our interaction, and should be in a position to confirm it or not. I have also notified
Radiant, as my original RfA's chief opponent. If I were really going to canvas, it would be
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I think that would look "guilty" or "sneaky". I notified
Pmanderson/Septentrionalis and Tony1 because I have interacted, both pro and con, with them more than any other editors on the system other than Fuhghettaboutit (my co-nominator), so they are both in a position to accurately judge me, and have
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Wikipedians come to the conclusion that they do on this issue; I just believe it to be an incorrect, and "paranoid", conclusion. Just to be clear: The reason that the rationale is wrong is that the licenses are already "readily available" simply by being on the system and attached to the image
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Most image licenses require author attribution and that the full license text is sent along or linked to. So we have to have links to the image pages where we state the authors name, type of license and link on to the full license text. We may only unlink images that are public domain and with some
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Hi, I wish we could have bumped into each other under slightly happier circumstances, but I though I'd introduce myself anyway. I hope you won't take my comments in your RfA personally and use them to build yourself up a bit more and I'd genuinely like to see you back there in a few months. I liked
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removed, how the necessity for a citation for the multiple sentences/phrases will be made clear and not just thought to apply only to the last one that has the words “citation needed” attached. If you can make it clearer for me me how the editor will know what is in need of referencing, that it is
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to create a link to a bigger, better version of a thumbnailed image. In other cases, iconic images should act as buttons, just as they do in, well, every other machine-human interface on the entire planet. And when neither case applies (i.e. the image is just fluff) nothing should happen at all.
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New editors' lack of understanding of Knowledge (XXG) processes has resulted in thousands of BLPs being created over the last few years that do not meet BLP requirements. We are currently seeking constructive proposals on how to help newcomers better understand what is expected, and how to improve
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Not sure if you were referencing the edits I made, but I didn't make any biased positive comments about Kevin Trudeau's occupation. All I did was delete the negative ones. I personally happen to think the guy is a fraud and a con artist of the worst kind, but as I said in my edit description, it's
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As I said, I don't want to get into an argument about this. :-) I have given it a great deal of thought, and the general Wikipedian perspective on the matter appears to be legally flawed. I know more about online copyright law than most lawyers who aren't specialists in the matter. I worked with
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In books we know we can first look around the image, if the attribution isn't there, then we look at the first and last pages of the book. Also, the images in books usually are not GFDL or CS-BY-SA, instead the publishers have commercial agreements with the image owners, agreements that allow the
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Hello. I think this RfA will be a clear fail. I think you have been unwittingly your own worst enemy. You are a very enthusiastic editor who wants to get things exactly right. That appears to me to be the reason why the hesitation in initiating the RfA, the reason for the possible canvassing, the
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No, I was responding to someone's addition of a claim that Trudeau was a "consumer protection advocate" and something else, too, contradicted by the evidence. I'm not fan of Trudeau's either. I side with you on moving the legal material to the legal section, other than that the lead must at least
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Also "teenagers" was not a word when the second edition was published. So, is this in Birchfields third edition (ugh)? Or is the comment added by an editor here, in which case I think it should not be shown to be a quote when it is outside the quote. That really is my point, which part of this is
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to me. You are spending way too much time coming up with allegedly clever little diagrams about mentorship and thinking outside boxes, and creating user sub pages about mentorship, and editing essays about mentorship, and so on, when the purpose of the ArbCom requiring you to have a mentor or be
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That's all such old news. I did withdraw my original nomination back in early 2007. It wasn't going hugely well, even if more + than -, and I was going to let it play out. Then a sock puppet generated a false but apparently credible-to-some accusation that caused a negative "me too" snowball to
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While here at Knowledge (XXG) we mostly use images with GFDL and CS-BY-SA licenses or similar. We don't have special commercial agreements with the authors who made the images. We don't pay the image authors anything. So we have to obey by the requirement to attribute those authors and make the
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I don't mind it being cut, but I checked in my Fowler second edition and I can't find it at all. (I hate the third edition but I have one somewhere propping up a table or something.) Either I am losing sanity and it is in the second edition and I just can't see it, or this quotation is not from
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and if someone wants to oppose me on a bogus basis, oh well. I'm offering to serve WP as a janitor because I have time to do so finally; if I were really a power-hungry, sneaky type I would have RfA'd again in late 2007 with the two nominators that offered then, and worked hard, honestly and
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Modern English Usage at all or is in a different article. I think it would be good if we could clarify this. More than likely it is my own stupidity, but the fact that it is unclear and I spotted it and it confused me does, to my mind, indicate that its provenance needs to be made clearer.
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I'm loath to get involved in userspaced quasi-projects, especially when they are partisan on an issue I've already taken a position on, as I have at the RfC in question. I'd rather see what comes out of the RfC than devote pre-emptive energy in a direction that may not prove viable. —
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You question the efficacy of time invested in essay writing, but these exercises were proposed by tentative co-mentors whose ideas I am encouraged to make my own. Also, this was informed by a similar strategy which seems to have worked well enough for another mentorship group -- see
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page and then add them to the real RfA at some point quasi-soon (i.e. not February :-) I have a lot of reading to catch up on. I actually did read oodles and oodles of this stuff before my first RfA, but it's mostly all changed years later, so I'm starting over with a lot of it. —
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And since I edit from Sweden I also have to take into account what the copyright law in my country says. Thankfully I know a bit about how the law works in my country, I've won all my legal actions so far.:)) I am pretty sure that our courts over here wouldn't accept this excuse:
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Please keep in mind that the ACC tool is a powerful program, and misuse may result in your access being suspended by a tool administrator. Don't hesitate to get in touch with me if you have any questions. Thank you for participating in the account creation process. Again welcome!
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to fix or improve things, like bad page names and vague page rationales, two problems that page suffered. Just so you know and are not alarmed by it, the video game DELSORT page has been proposed for a rename, because it is over in the VG project instead of under DELSORT. —
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Sorry with the way it went. I'd really like to see you run again soon, because I think you'd be a valuable addition to the team. I like the way you see truth in some of the opposes and seem happy to respond to them in a positive manner. Good luck with that and if you go to
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SMcCandlish at ru.wikipedia which was said to be not connected to the rest. This seems like an error, as it's unlikely that some other S McCandlish is a ruwiki editor. I'm not either for that matter, just mystified as to the reasons behind this lone SUL system glitch. —
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Thanks for the tip on when not to use subst. I have trouble knowing when to use it and when not. Sometimes it is supposed to be used and template instructions take it for granted folks like me already know. Is there a simple way to know when to use it and when not?
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Christian understanding of the Trinity, Jesus and God the Father are separate "persons" of the Trinity (in a special Latin sense of the word "person", which is not the same as the most often-used modern English sense of this word), but Jesus and God are not separate...
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Okay, I may have misinterpreted some of what I was seeing. If the essay stuff has been helpful for you, then that is a good thing. I have a great many "fish to fry" as the saying goes, and you already have a number of mentoring volunteers so I think you'll be fine. —
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and other hot-tempered forums I'm a regular at can vouch for my ability to deal with disputes calmly. I expect to be gnawed at in RfA by a few people who have been particularly fierce debate opponents in the past, including the recent past (e.g. the RfC at
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and realize that I don't know the answer to some of the questions (especially the blocking ones - I don't plan to do much if any blocking other than for outright intransigent vandalism). So I still have some research to do and am not in a huge hurry. —
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All the parameters you removed were optional. This was stated in the documentation. If it was not stated clearly, why not fix the doc? If they are left out, the thing works. So why would you remove the option? I went to use one of them when applying
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we better do not interwiki link David Gottlieb, the link would lead to an othe Davis wich is not the creator of pinball machines. I think the creator David Gottlieb deserves his own article. Please make one if you have information about him, I dont.
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of finding and having mentor is inimical to that. Looks like several have accepted already anyway, so best of luck. Try to remember that this is encyclopedia-bulding project, not an experiment in virtual governance (not intentionally, anyway). —
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Okey dokey! Thanks. And I'm not in any huge hurry. I've done fine without admin tools for years. I could be more efficient and useful with them, but it's not like my to-do list is empty and I'm just sitting here picking my nose or anything. ;-) —
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I wanted to state for the record that I think you are a great editor. However, I believe you care deeply about issues (as do I) and that this is a difficulty for Admins. What I am saying should be taken as a compliment. Keep up the good work. -
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Thanks for flagging that up to me. You may want to get some of the other editors, who occasionally edit on such articles, to comment on the proposal. I can't remember such names at 5:20am, so have a look through recent darts articles such as
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subtle dotted line. That’s what took me to the template page and its revision history. But, after I read your response above, I went and tried it again and it worked! So, what was that all about? A one-time only glitch drawing the
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5000:(i.e., wrapping sentences with subtle underlining), I am happy. And, I am secretly glad to see the end of those options. I think I was trying to force myself to make use of them since I had recently discovered that they existed.
4308:;-) If Xeno or whoever wants to raise the issue elsewhere, that's fine, but my user page is for collaborating with me or raising issues with my editing, not policy debates, which can't possibly be resolved here, right? Heh. —
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No biggie either way. If I "wanted" adminship, like for "power" and stuff, I would have RfA'd in in Nov. 2007 or so. Thanks, though. If there is a next time (it would take quite a bit of convincing...), I think it would
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other licenses. Unlinking other images is illegal (copyright crime) and means the image authors can sue you and/or Wikimedia Foundation and win in most courts in most countries. Sorry about that, copyright is a hassle.
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Anyway, the issue of what to do with the text at that article should be discussed at that article's talk page; there are multiple viewpoints in the debate, so just us two talking about it here won't fix anything. —
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Again, I apologize for the confusion. I just cannot figure out why it did not show up on my screen correctly … This template is one of my favorites and I would hate to see it go to TfD again. Thanks Stanton! —
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I saw your name at the copyeditors guild page. I was wondering if you would like to copyedit this article for FAC. The lead has already been done, so everything after that needs checking. Thanks for your help.
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with many more reasons for deletion than were brought last time. The only *useful* functionality of this template is the "surrounding" function - which is very, very, useful - and which should be merged into
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But as Xeno said, this should be referred to the lawyers of the Wikimedia Foundation. As long as Wikimedia Foundation hasn't issued a formal decision on this, I think it is our duty to "better be safe than
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My nom is there. Go ahead and finish it all off. I wish you luck. Remember that RfA can be a rough ride, but that's for good reasons. I know you'll be open to genuine constructive criticism. Go for it.
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5529:. In the months since I created this article, the topic has taken on an unanticipated personal relevance. I wonder if you might consider joining other co-mentors in a mentorship committee for me?
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Thanks; I didn't figure I'd need to tag the talks; they were just there for testing the non-talk variants. :-) I think I just flagged a few more for nuking. Its funny how much junk can accumulate. —
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and I must say that I am shocked. Some of the work was necessary and good. But, overall you do not understand the purpose of the template. The way you have made it, it is now no different than
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I hadn't realized there was that much difference between later editions. I guess I'll have to scare up a copy of the 2nd and 3rd then, since all I've got are the 4th and a reprint of the 1st.
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give a nice, succinct rationale. I'm around if you should want to chat or you can email me if you feel the need to rant (I have a failed RfA of my own- I now it's not easy). All the best,
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again, at all, anyway, but after several years of people bugging me to ask for the mop again, I figured it was worth a try since I actually have time to do some admin work. <shrug: -->
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I just wanted to say that I'm impressed with your withdrawal statement. Too often, editors doing this want to blame other editors or groups of editors, whereas you didn't. Hopefully you
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and reload the page) after it has changed before its transclusions will reflect the change (or wait a while, sometimes several minutes). No apologies! I'm sure it was quite alarming! —
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made your proposals there. This particular template has already been vastly improved from its original and you have essentially come along and gutted it. You have all but deleted it. —
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Thanks. I would have done this ages ago if I'd thought about it (I didn't because I always NPP'd with redirs turned off, so I didn't realize what a mess that is when it's turned on!) —
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autoreviewer rights on your account, as you have created numerous valid articles. This will have little or no effect on your editing, and is intended mainly to reduce the workload on
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applying it can do so? Also, now that it is working on my screen, the documentary re-write was a good one. Again, sorry that I thought it was screwed up. (Scroll down ↓ for more.) —
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I don't know what you mean; I never said anything had any conclusion to merge. I have proposed one. See the talk page of any previously TfD'd template for a link to its TfD. —
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Thanks, but I'll probably withdraw it after it turns into a more boring pile-on. Some of the incoming comments are still interesting and aren't entirely "me too" posts yet. —
2750:, just not with being gored to pieces for things I didn't even do. RfA is supposed to be a constructive, analytical process of community consensus-forming, not a suspension of
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The same goes for most commercial web sites: They have (or are at least required by law to have) agreements with the image owners that let them use the images the way they do.
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otherwise for acceptance. But it's 2010 now, and I haven't done anything to engineer my way into "power". If people can't see that, then I'm not sure I want the bucket. :-) —
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to do that for readers, only for editors, and the source code being different in obvious ways is enough to accomplish this for editors. Then again I may be full of it. :-) —
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and stuff too, since they don't have links (but do note that when they provide photo attribution and licensing they very frequently do not do it right where the image is but
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if I'm seen as "badgering". The RfA is a lost cause and I'm not going to have blatant falsehoods told about me to my face without responding to them. I'm perfectly fine with
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It was probably just database lag. Sometimes you have to force templates and template documentation and anything else transcluded to purge (open it in edit mode, but change
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Hey guys. Unimpeachable, huh? I'll drop Cheney a note and tell him we got away with it all. Just so you know, I have posted my nomination to the live page (not the draft).--
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go better, since this must be one of the worst RfAs of all time, on the level of how much of it is nonsense, 3-4 year old grudges and outright falsehoods. <shrug: -->
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pages at all. There's nothing in copyright law that would require an active hypertext link to that page. That said, and my usability and accessibility gripes aside,
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be singularly different. The functionality is so useful and so simple it should be ubiquitous. It actually amazes me that, even something like a year after
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is the code you're upset about the removal of, then I don't know what to tell you, other than that I will have little choice but to return this template to
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you have written, the nature of your "decline" encourages me to hope you might reconsider -- if not now, then perhaps at some other point in the future?--
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This has been basic Web usability and accessibility horse sense since the mid 1990s, and based on user interface studies going back to the late 1960s. —
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point of view. Its one of the absolute worst interface "features" of MediaWiki, as a default. It should only happen (and would be good) when the editor
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back, since edit intros work very differently than edit notices; concerning documentation, the most important difference is that the <noinclude: -->
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Indeedy! I was finishing my degree after 15 years or so out of school and in the workforce, so I didn't really have time to go for the mop. —
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and noticed nothing was working any more. So how do I indicate a paragraph that needs sourcing in an otherwise sourced section? I cannot use
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Sorry, but I had only very tangential contact with that article or anything else you've been involved with, and your case looks like a
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seems to be a good place to discuss this. Feel free to move this discussion there, including copying anything I have written here.
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some 48,000 articles about living people as created by those 17,500 editors, through our proper cleanup, expansion, and sourcing.
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Hello SMcCandlish, I was reviewing the history of your RfA, and noticed that you removed my and another user's comments
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4982:. Why would it not fit under the last exception to
4548:. But, the purpose of this template is meant to be
528:Cool beans. I've added the Malinaccier stuff to my
5543:Please contact me by e-mail or on my talk page. --
5534:Knowledge (XXG):Mentorship#Unintended consequences
5256:What I'm saying is: Port the wrapping function to
2425:Speedy it if rules allow. Happy new year, btw. //
2295:User:SMcCandlish/List of World Blackball Champions
1186:Will do. Was thinking this afternoon, actually. —
990:, and feel free to ask if you have any questions.
351:Knowledge (XXG):Requests for adminship/SMcCandlish
349:How would you respond to the criticisms of you at
5484:at Template talk:Reference necessary's talk page.
4043:books and newspapers etc to use less attribution.
2054:, and also the main championship pages. Regards.
1297:My rede was that none of it is a quote of Fowler
4132:the other. Where would you like to take this?
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640:If you'd like to be an admin (janitor), then...
4089:in templates, don't worry about it; I won't. —
3838:a discussion about Biographies of Living People
5469:at Template talk:Citation needed's talk page.
776:An open proposal for a WikiProject Talk Pages
603:at Talk:2009 Championship League's talk page.
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5525:I write because you participated in editing
978:Hi, just wanted to let you know that I have
1722:Message added 19:52, 17 January 2010 (UTC).
880:. Before you do so, please read the tool's
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1450:, both the 2nd and 3rd spellings would be
1172:Pls let me know when you transclude it. --
898:request the account creator permission at
794:I noticed some edits you recently made to
492:) and drop me a line when you're ready. --
3312:Featured administrator: WereSpielChequers
3182:
2718:Repaired; probably a temporary Db glitch.
2509:distracted by accusations of canvassing.
2291:User:SMcCandlish/Comparison of cue sports
1867:Thought I would try this out. Well done!
1392:; fixed. The issue at that redir is that
1367:for a list of the main ones) ? Cheers -
5118:for very similar multi-functionality. —
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3326:Feature: FeydHuxtable: Search Techniques
5817:BTW, are you aware that there exists a
1563:Fine by me, as long as it's consistent.
126:Have you checked your email recently?--
4423:Fair enough, will tread carefully. --
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2917:Yep, I believe you, on every point. —
910:-- Александр Дмитрий (Alexandr Dmitri)
454:User:Malinaccier/The four phase system
353:? Did you withdraw your nomination? --
44:Do not edit the contents of this page.
5193:. I mean, I see your formatting above
4483:No worries; I do it sometimes too! —
2995:Just thought I'd stop by to say hello
488:is a good place to (re?)start, as is
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2180:According to mainstream traditional
1610:Two edit intros where this is used:
5920:discusses template merges as well.
5891:, which I don't think these are. —
5563:indefinitely blocked is for you to
4857:, it is insufficient. I cannot use
3791:Declined; responded at RfC already.
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5538:mentor deemed acceptable by ArbCom
4116:Template talk:Asbox#Image alt text
3149:Article Rescue Squadron Newsletter
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1936:Yeah, me too! Thanks for the idea!
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5862:Hadn't noticed. Thanks. :-) —
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988:Knowledge (XXG):Autoreviewer
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728:Administrators' reading list
723:Administrators' how-to guide
5837:templates both here and on
5300:only something one applies
4534:I just saw what you did to
4526:Centralizing discussion at
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3070:My "controversial" question
3041:Anyway, have a good one. —
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1357:Jimmy White's 2: Cue Ball
1336:Jimmy White's 2: Cue Ball
1041:No problemo! Take care,
953:Your autoreviewer request
796:Talk:electronic cigarette
530:User:SMcCandlish/Coaching
5169:is effectively deleting
2275:I noticed you added the
2257:Userspace draft template
1884:MalnadachBot's talk page
1549:Editintro vs. Editnotice
1404:Jimmy White's 2: Cueball
6048:needs to be updated. —
5987:Do not make changes to
5536:? In the search for a
4550:fundamentally different
3987:actively clickable link
3207:Issue 2 (January 2010)
3198:Article Rescue Squadron
1784:Misc. notices and chat.
1574:Editintro documentation
1286:Fowler wrote more than
1256:Thanks and best wishes
790:Supported, at nom page.
303:Blast from the past. --
5226:the subtle underlining
5203:the subtle underlining
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5167:the subtle underlining
4964:{{Reference necessary|
3944:Hi SMcCandlish. Today
3636:Thanks. I will. :-) —
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5201:but do not see, with
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4966:Passage to be sourced
3777:Discussion invitation
3393:Please remember that
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2592:Mail. Got. You've. --
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4729:I owe you an apology
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3447:relevant noticeboard
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1878:Hello, SMcCandlish.
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5389:Reference necessary
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4291:Attrib:FooBarBaz123
4083:I don't really care
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2165:Redirected back to
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3028:You rang?
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2002:Garrett W.
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1739:Thanks. —
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1590:there. We
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649:WP:DPR#NAC
252:Huzzah! —
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