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African Americans were described as "animals," 95% of whom are (asserts the newsletters) criminals; homosexuals suffering from HIV were said to "enjoy the pity and attention that comes with being sick," with AIDS itself (and death and suffering generally) characterized as a predictable outcome of homosexual conduct. Reason magazine said that "a half-dozen longtime libertarian activists – including some still close to Paul" had identified Rockwell as the "chief ghostwriter" of the newsletters. Rockwell acknowledged his involvement in promoting and writing subscription letters for the Ron Paul newsletters, but denied the charge of ghostwriting the newsletters themselves, and he said the accusations were "hysterical smears aimed at political enemies." Ron Paul himself repudiated the newsletters' content and said he was not involved in the daily operations of the newsletters or saw much of their content until years later.
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things, off topic... what difference does it make if Rockwell's website is an open forum for all kinds of ideas? I don't get the problem on either side. I get the sense Rockwell is a shrewd promoter and a good businessman and his activities don't really relate to my interest here. But that's off-topic. I hope you can help Steeletrap find a forum or a community for resolution of this issue? By the way, I just took a look at the link you provided above. I think it's clear that was not what I suggested he do and I have not seen him do it. It's a matter of finding any independent opinion, not a jury-rigged opinion, and my suggestion to him has been to read the policy on canvassing and then to post in as many related Projects as he could identify. Maybe you can help find more input on whatever is under dispute in this matter.
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condemned because their website does present archives of papers and interviews of a range of Austrians, even some such as Machlup and Morgenstern who were actively involved in formulating much government policy in the mid-twentieth century. Some of the article, such as the discussion of methodology appears to have been written by editors who have little understanding of the subject. The litany of principles in the first section reads like the recitation of a cult initiation ritual. I hope that I will be able to contribute to improving this article, as I see that you have already done. Do you know whether there has been any attempt to write a more appropriate and substantive first section, without the list of precepts?
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Harvard and other such institutions. Their work there shows the approach of individualism, subjectivism, etc. but not theoretical isolationism, rejection of scientific method etc. Then we have the neo-Austrians who gathered at Cato and Mises Institute, and we have the academic Austrians at NYU, George Mason, and scattered other distinguished venues. Finally we have interested non-economists who cite or sometimes mis-cite various principles they associate with Austrian School thinking. There are also a number of academics from other fields who are referred to as Austrian economists but are rather social theorists, historians or philosophers of various kinds. I'll copy this to the AS article.
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specifically implemented tool of the Holocaust is well documented. You may certainly argue that it was not crucial or important, and that we are putting undue weight on it, but that is a completely different argument than saying it is unrelated. report it if you must, but you are only wasting your time, mine, and that of those others who will become involved. Your comment, and my reply, are insignificant and unhelpful in the long run, and I suggest we move on.
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possibility) and the (massive) overwhelming amount of testimonial evidence for his authorship of the racist newsletters. Carol is discussing reverting all of my edits into a "NPOV version" while failing to provide any specific argument as to where the substance or tone of my edits violate NPOV. This is maddening since I've asked them to do this for almost a week. How should one deal with this sort of situation?
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be given the benefit of the doubt regarding his aims, but I think it's difficult to maintain a NPOV when one is writing about one's colleagues and friends, so while his contributions shouldn't be negated, other (non-Mises affiliated) people should get involved. And at a more broad level, could you contact an editor to look at the Mises Institute pages to determine whether they are a
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from usertalk pageS, to the article talk page, to the editor assistance page, to the ANI, to the Finge NB, and now to the NPOV page. And s/he has argued that the forum shopping guidance does not apply. Still, this is disruptive! And I'm not having much success in either limiting the forum to one proper area or in narrowing the discussion to the issues of concern. Frustrating. –
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there and don't know the history of it. At any rate, you owe me nothing but if you wish to review my history of edits and talk page interactions on many articles over the past 6 months, I think you might be less disapproving. Thanks for the reply. BTW I rarely use sarcasm, particularly in a written communication where it is so easily misinterpreted.
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not at all clear that Rockwell didn't write them) is overwhelming, and, while I have of course diligently refrained from WP:PA, I am nonetheless having trouble keeping my cool with people who -- in the face of this overwhelming evidence -- continue to express another view. (particularly given the loaded language they are directing at me).
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Lew Rockwell wikipedia page and the Ron Paul Newsletter page. It might also help to appraise yourself of the contextual background of the conflict between the user and myself, as detailed on my talk page. No trouble if you're not up for such a task. But if not, I hope you can pass it on to a neutral editor who might be! Thanks!
160:--Got it. Thanks D.A. In a way then it seems dangerous to try to approach consensus gradually since each edit will involve partial reversion along with addition such as I was doing on that article. I'm not sure that I understand what constitutes a revert under those circumstances, but I did subsequently post on the talk page. 3587:
Hello Carol. With rare exceptions, I do not read your postings. I've already stated my reaction to the tone of those I have read. For that reason I am very reluctant to participate in discussions or to edit pages in which you're involved, lest I be further victimized by what I feel are your personal
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It's not an issue of informing people that a discussion is on-going in a particular forum, it is posting the issue itself in different forums. (I'm afraid Steeletrap misread your suggestion!) Still, I had proposed a compromise on the article talk page. Steeletrap should respond there. But we've gone
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guidance. I do not think an ORN would work because we had not reached a point where OR on fringe was/is in the LRC article. Rather, Steeletrap is expressing concern about the fact that LRC had posted fringe stuff and s/he wants to point this out. But please notice that the use of LRC as a "forum" for
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I was blocked, but on a technicality or 3rr. I note that there is now strong consensus (including several uninvolved editors) that my edit was correct, and that he was not a self published source (although there is debate on notability/weight/fringe), and therefore your repeated adding of the sps tag
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I don't know much about Rockwell, but I will take a look. I urge you to post your concerns on the various WP talk pages soliciting additional uninvolved opinions, e.g. the Economics Project page, the OR and RS pages, etc. Let me know if you have trouble locating these. Also, while I don't think it
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As someone who is relatively new and unsavvy in all things Wiki (but who cares deeply about encyclopedic scrupulousness), I am at my wit's end and would like some help with the editing of articles related to the newsletter issue. Therefore I ask you to read up on the past edits by me and Srich on the
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a former Mises Institute employee, who is currently working on a "Mises Wiki" project for the institute) says he has created or "substantially edited" the vast majority of pages for Mises Institute scholars. That certainly doesn't prove bias or bad intentions in and of itself, and he should certainly
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Sorry to disagree, but Carol's got a long history of personal attacks and harassment and without commenting further on her behavior, I'll say that if editors confine themselves to third person statements about content, it's impossible to make personal attacks and harassment, explicit or implied. It
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There are two such reviews. GMU's and LvMI's. The LvMI article mentions publications, so the present redirect is correct. The GMU article does not mention publications, so a redirect to that page is not appropriate. While Gaijin42's helpful and collaborative advice on how to correct this is accurate,
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PM appears to have fabricated the assertion that Krugman predicted bankruptcy. I have not been able to verify K said it, have you? The article is about Austerity, not the PM's political grandstanding by misrepresenting some economist/blogger. The CNBC report accurately reported what the PM said, but
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Hi. Well there has to be some forum to put these issues to rest. I don't know all the venues. Steeletrap knows even less than I. Do you have any idea as to how to find more editors or editors with experience relevant to whatever y'all are disputing? I can't make head nor tail of this. Among other
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by a Ron Paul-supporting journalist at a local Fox Affiliate "outing" (I use scare quotes because this was already reported) another author of one newsletter piece who was not Rockwell. The user has also (in my view) previously personally attacked me (Please see my talk page for the records of this,
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Reports from The New York Times, The Washington Post, and The Economist said Rockwell oversaw the production of "Ron Paul Political Report" newsletters written on behalf of Paul in the late 1980s and early to mid 1990s. The newsletters contained derogatory remarks about minority groups. For example,
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Hello. What caught my attention was the assertion that it was "the first" which is not sourced or verifiable. Also IG is offering a specific well-defined instrument and is a known, established provider. However I would not object to deleting each of these products, the significance of which is not
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that supports you in this regard. On the other hand, you were violating TPNO when you made the off-topic comment on the article talk page. If you get distracted by the fact that Carol says she is annoyed about the edits being made, then you should make comments on her talk page. Yes, we should focus
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I disagree. There is no justification for first- or second- person remarks on the article talk pages. I've said that before, and it's incontrovertible. No editor's emotional reaction is relevant to the joint task of editing, so at best it's a distraction from the community focus on the article text
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When clicking on the redirect, and landing on the target page, at the top of the target page there is a link that says "redirected from...." If you click that link, it will take you back to the redirect article. You can then edit the redirect as a normal article to send it somewhere else, or make it
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on a single page within a 24-hour period. Undoing another editor's work—whether in whole or in part, whether involving the same or different material each time—counts as a revert. Also keep in mind that while violating the three-revert rule often leads to a block, you can still be blocked for edit
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Hey, I didn't say you're a bad person. You appealed your block and a second admin declined. Life goes on. You don't see me editing on Gun Control or anywhere else against consensus or against a BRD revert. Remember as it says on various WP guidance and policy pages, whether your edit was correct
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Hi. Well, I have been involved in 4 admin cases recently. One editor was topic banned indefinitely. One was blocked for 3RR, then the same one was not blocked, and the 4th was not blocked. The Gun Control article is an extremely contentious and adversarial environment right now. I'm relatively new
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page (particularly the talk page). I am concerned with those who are claiming that the newsletter section should be deleted or dramatically changed because it is not notable or because he clearly didn't write them. The evidence against those two claims (i.e. that the story is notable and that it is
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The whole debate is over whether we can characterize LRC as promoting fringe science for its (RS-documented) promoting of AIDS Denial and its further promotion of Evolution-Denial and other similar ideas. I really do not see why this has to get personal. I don't think anyone is acting in bad faith
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Oh. I don't see how it can be resolved without knowledgeable third parties entering the discussion. So maybe it will never be resolved. I don't see the problem really. The website appears to be a forum for all kinds of topics and ideas. Some of them are fringe. That doesn't mean they're wrong.
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Steeletrap: the best place to determine what the "incident" is about is to look at the ANI. (IOW, I don't think your question is rhetorical.) At that point you can comment as you see fit -- the subject being SPECIFICO's editing and talkpage behavior.) Also, if you want to discuss improvement to an
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I am sorry that you misunderstood my purpose. I did spend quite a bit of time researching those authors and the cited sources. The article does not accurately represent the cited sources in any event. My comment may have been too terse trying to fit it on the summary line, but please consider the
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I'll let the fringe group figure that out - they seem pretty confused so far. I did notice that some of that stuff was discussed before, and it looked like there wasn't a consensus as much as a failure to come to one so people just left it; til others came along later and just deleted some stuff,
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This is a huge task. First, the article misstates the "Austrian business cycle theory" and that section should be rewritten using secondary RS material. The Austrians who trained in Vienna after WW1 for the most part did not try to keep separate from academic economics but joined LSE, Princeton,
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Hi SPECIFICO. There are major problems with NPOV regarding articles regarding "The seduction community," pages I came across through one of the co-editors on the guns page. Basically, "the seduction community" consists of a pack of charlatans/hucksters who feed utterly untested, pseudo-scientific
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While I understand that reasoning, it is generally considered a revert when an editor restores nearly identical material to an article repeatedly without getting consensus. Minor alterations do not usually suffice when considering whether something is a revert. Discussion and compromise should be
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as alleged Denialists by a couple rather than flagrant, well-known Denialists. I am afraid to "defy" the editor in question because of her previous charges of libel, but want to share with you the following links on LRC. (Got this collection from a FB page, but all sources verified. Evolution:
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and the full discussion of the issue). Most bizarrely, he/she stands by the view that Rockwell was not involved in the newsletter despite the fact that he admits he was and that -- as I have repeatedly pointed out to him --physical copies of the newsletter variously list him as its sole "Editor"
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about carolmooredc's annoyance about change(s) that were made. It was an appropriate remark because she was talking about her feelings about the particular article edits. She was not referring to any editor personally. She was incorrect in responding on the article talk page about your personal
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Hello LK. I agree with your assessment of this article. There appear to be many editors who have little training or interest in the broad field of economics and who are partisan polemicists documenting the catechism of the Mises Institute. I note that the Mises Institute should not be entirely
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is driving me bonkers. People are making insulting insinuations about me acting in bad faith for my edits substantiating Rockwell's involvement in (it was previously -- absurdly, given that he admits to being involved in the operation though denies writing them -- described as if it were a mere
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It was not a personal attack. You said "Why would I care about Hitler's gun policies? Again, it's no more significant than his preference for mayo rather than the more conventional mustard on his sausage". This is an (I believe) an intentionally obtuse argument, as the use of gun control as a
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I'm sure that other and better sources are available. If so, they should be used. The issue motivating my message is the judgmental edit summary that describes them as non-notable. If they are not notable persons, then their articles should be reviewed, improved, and perhaps AFD'd. But the edit
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The real problem is what we are working with is not a true secondary source. The fight over accuracy stems from this: We are interpreting data subjectively and writing it in our own words. If the statement ever appears again and if the market recovers past $ 1 billion, I will be sure to cite a
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article is unfairly mis-representing Mises Institute teachings as Austrian school thought. In my opinion, we would do better to present what people like Boetkke and Horwitz describe to be Austrian school economics. Unfortunately, Knowledge (XXG) is a democracy of the interested; and von Mises
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Thanks for your note, Ronnotel. I presume you've reviewed the history of that section in the Ryan article. I attempted to add higher quality source citations after a previous editor had complained about National Review. I also feel that said previous editor's substitution of near-meaningless
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The problem is I disagree with your assumption that we need RS to say this. If the subject of WP article publishes claims that gravity isn't real or that the earth is flat, these claims can be labeled as fringe science without an RS saying this (WP gives license for this sort of common sense
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A user (Srich) has repeatedly challenged these edits and sought to revert them (in part or whole). The user has stated that he or she "feel fairly comfortable with Rockwell's non-involvement with the controversial newsletter stuff," and that future edits should indicate that probable lack of
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That is absurd. You are going to scrutinize all sources minute by minute to determine what word to choose? This is not a "fight" and it has nothing to do with accuracy. "Over" is not accurate, as you well know. That is exactly why "approximately" is the robust operational approach.
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Since you're here: Please do the right thing and strike through the identified PA so that we can proceed together on this. I am warning you I may decide to pursue this. FYI the edits were substantially the same ones that were summarily undone a day or two ago when I made them.
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Would you try not to revert the changes of other editors? You should discuss matters on the article talk page or the talk pages of specific editors rather than repeatedly reverting. Reverts should be used sparingly, if at all, with amicable resolution of disputes serving as the
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probably for WP:BLP reasons. Some of which still stand. But enough discussing on personal talk pages the specifics, where it may be missed by __ number of watchers (link error message right now) of Talk: LewRockwell.com (and Lew Rockwell) who may eventually want to jump in.
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located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you.
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located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your username or IP address and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when they said it. Thank you.
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non-controversial claims like where someone was born/grew up/went to school/etc. If there is a good (reasonably neutral) source with that sort of information, it might be worth including. No matter what you think of him or his gang*, the article is still a
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Hi SPECIFICO, my apologies for making a lousy assumption when adding an occupation that is not sourced and not being cognizant enough when I removing some of the categories. I've already made changes to the article and will be more careful next time.
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Hello. I don't know how that happened. I may have been confused and thought that I was editing an unsourced statement on the article page. At any rate, thanks for mentioning it and I see that the text has been reinserted back to as it should be.
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No. The change from "over" to "approximately" is not an uncited claim. It is a more accurate statement that removes the unbounded and slightly promotional sense of "over." Once I reverted "over" the next step is Discuss. Please review
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language "drew criticism" weakened the meaning of the section and attempted to be more specific in characterizing the cited sources' concern. At any rate, I'd be pleased to discuss this further on the Paul Ryan talk page if you wish.
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article (which may be the source of the ANI) feel free to discuss on that talk page. But adding comments here, to a User talk page, does not assist in article improvement or cooperation between editors. Basically, your comments
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Is this "incident" in regards to your gun control edits? i.e., your removal of the absurd claims, from non-notable sources (e.g. anonymous libertarians who say they are Jewish, and "Ludwig Von Mises Institute" professors like
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I think SPECIFICO had suggested the fringe board so that Steeletrap would have a forum which other editors could comment at. And perhaps it is a good place to post because editors interested in the topic could comment on the
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Just to apologise for the shitty tone I took with you on my talk. Really, I have to wonder at letting myself be perturbed by Knowledge (XXG) activity. Feel free to post on my talk page again if there is a need to in future.
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involvement and alleged authorship of racist newsletters written on behalf of Congressman Ron Paul. Here is the edit I made to Rockwell's wikipedia page (you should check my sourcing there if you doubt any of these claims):
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the PM based her comments on an article you found by Krugman. on the other hand, you are saying regardless of wp:truth, it is not our job to make such a determination. feel free to move this to both or either article page.
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They are a bit snarky and express a particular point of view (in the process of asking a question), but clearly don't fall under any of the five criteria listed on that page. I suggest you brush up on those five criteria.
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ok, that's great. However I note that you reverted material without engaging concerns that had been raised on the talk page by myself and others. I suggest you self revert and look for consensus on to address this topic.
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Hello LK. Exclusively the latter. Unfortunately from what I have seen the program of the Mises Institute bears little relation to the great Austrian principles and traditions of the 20th Century. Thanks for visiting
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regarding a content dispute in which you may have been involved. Content disputes can hold up article development, therefore we request your participation in the discussion to help find a resolution. The thread is
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is not relevant to 3RR or EW. Also I don't recall repeadly adding a tag. Could you tell me which tag is "SPS tag" and where did I repeatedly add it? Could you have another editor in mind on that point? Thanks
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What brought me to this page was your conduct on ANI and 3RR. I only revered your blanking of this discussion (which you have every right to do) so I could respond. A great example of what I am talking about is
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Yes. I have been disappointed to see various editors violate this from time to time. There's an interesting discussion going on recently at "Gun Control" I'm not sure whether that is in your area of expertise.
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but also wanted to leave a note here in case you hadn't seen: I think the changes to the lead that you and RegentsPark have made look good. I was wondering if you'd seen the other change I suggested, for the
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is one of the 5 Pillars. The book mentioned does not present Bialey in a "serious and prominent way" so it is most problematic. (Simply mentioning the fact that LRC was used is not a prominent presentation.)
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to be used for comments about her behavior. There is no exception to this guideline for editors whom you may feel have a long history of anything. Two: The particular comments which you complain about were
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I advise you to state your views on the talk pages of the two articles. These are not my personal issues. Others may also wish to participate, as they already have done on both article talk pages. Thanks.
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and I would like to know what is going on. Since you have experience with this user, maybe you could give me an update. Is the user just making newbie mistakes or is there something more to this?
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claims about "what women want" to sexually challenged men. The problem is that the claims of the "community" are uncritically reported as "social psychology" in its Knowledge (XXG) pieces. See:
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I heard your denial the first several times. I cannot tolerate personal attacks and they are bad for the WP community. You have made yourself clear and unfortunately that is not OK. Thanks.
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Thanks! I'm going to have more suggestions for the article going up on the Talk page this week, but I don't mean to monopolize your time, so it's up to you to get involved again or not. Cheers,
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Hello. I am going to revert the photo because I asked only about using the photo on WP and not an unrestricted free use license. I don't want to bother Prof. Hoppe again about this. Thanks.
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reliable article or news piece, and we will use their exact wording to refer to the value of the monetary base. Else, we will use the most prevalent terms that appear across all sources. --
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remark, and should have known better. But then you repeated the annoying remarks. All in all, you were one who started the disruptive commentary. I have hatted that absurd little spat. –
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I don't know, maybe groups associated with any of the content areas or even with publishing, editing, etc. Who knows, but there doesn't seem to be anyone home on the board right now.
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I'm not familiar with Rockwell or his website but how can you two attract additional editors to the fringe board discussion to resolve the issue about sourcing and cherry picking?
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we actually need a disambigulation page. I shall go off my wikibreak and fix it a bit later this week. (Steeletrap & SPECIFICO, you are each welcome to have a go at it!) –
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I will check it out. My knowledge level is limited but I do have a keen eye for violation of NPOV, particularly on these libertarian pages. I also ask that you check out the
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When you remove names such as Rowbatham or Hulsmann, and justify the removals that they are not notable, you are injecting your personal analysis into the edits. Please stop.
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template to the LvMI article and left a message on his talk page. (The next question, of posting the template on other pages, is one for discussion with Dick directly.) –
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If there are no further comments, I will replace the current infobox 24 hours from now and remove the word "economist" from the opening sentence of the Article. Thanks.
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You previously expressed concern about many (most?) of the LvMI related articles, insofar as they appear to constitute a walled garden. Two articles I'm working on are
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statement being made without citation: e.g., "paris is in france). Even if I didn't disagree I also think we have a source for the AIDS Denialist claim, in terms of
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People are now removing my edits which documented LRC's promotion AIDS Denial or fringe science of any kind (a recent edit characterized AIDS Denialist movies like "
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I have posted this warning before, but you're still editing the lede without debating it first. Please, use the talk page before making any controversial edits. --
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i dont think the editor is going to revert, i will bring this up at the appropriate venue. do you have any suggestions of where we should resolve this debate?
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The problem with non-notable Knowledge (XXG) pages is that, if they exist, they (by definition) have to be sourced by primary or biased sources. Like Hoppe's "
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Per the suggestion of an admin, I have moved the discussion to the appropriate venue. Knowledge (XXG):Administrators%27_noticeboard/Incidents#Reporting_self
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If you're interested in helping me do this, and drawing the distinction between the two strains of Austrianism, this debate on Austrianism published by the
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Thanks. And will take note of the canvassing piece; that is not my intention (nor, I think, what I am doing) in this case but it's a good and helpful read.
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contirbutors? I recommend adding a short descript to all of them in one fell swoop -- that'll help deter allegations that cherry-picking is going on. –
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and shortly before your note above I made an edit which I hope begins to provide some perspective on the role of gun control in Nazi Germany see here:
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The heads-up on DickClarkMises is interesting. (I should've read the Kinsella AfD more carefully.) With his past employment in mind, I've posted a
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section. I've addressed the ambiguity you mentioned and have proposed some new wording. If you're able to review this, I'd appreciate it. Cheers,
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OAS: I'll try to look at the expungement you mentioned on my talkpage a bit later today. And I certainly do appreciate your contributions!--
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too much noise in the article talk currently, but wanted to say that I think your most recent tweaks to the gun control article are fine.
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I have reported myself at ANI per your accusation of PA. As this could be seen as a backhanded way of reporting you, I am notifying you.
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If you intend this to constitute notice that you will be discussing anything concerning me you will need to provide a link. Thank you.
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Hello. Thank you for the invitation, but I'm afraid I don't have the time to devote to this right now. Good luck with your project.
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Please see my comments there. It's a WP:OR issue which is where an experienced editor would have brought it. Also, if you want a
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and it seems that you have an interest in and are knowledgeable about the financial industry, so I wondered if you'd be able to
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that it is outside our mandate as WP editors to judge or qualify the truth or accuracy of a statement such as Krugman's
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Why remove the mention of Spreadex on Bitcoin Deriratives and leave an IG Index article sourced in the same manner?
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I gave a very gently worded warning. I regret that you did not heed it, even with others telling you to. Cheers.
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is important not to make such attacks, but it is also important not to be intimidated by them when they occur.
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of the contributors that correspond with the biographical descriptions in their WP articles. (For example, "
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yet established, particularly in the absence of secondary source discussion of them. Thanks for the note.
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and at worst it tends to support bad interactions among editors. It's not worth further discussion.
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ok, will do. it is you to which the PM's statement appears to be incorrect, right? please read wp:OR.
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then undo your reinstatement of "over" and then state your concerns on talk, per policy. Thank you.
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book as the RS. At that point the issue becomes "who should be listed? Columnists
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There must be some way to give a sense of Rockwell's scope of publication.
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regarding an issue with which you may have been involved. Thank you. —
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Hello I am moving this to the article talk page and will reply there.
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Very Concerned with Edits to Lew Rockwell/Ron Paul Newsletter Page
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Institute followers are the ones most interested in this page.
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I don't see the connection between my above comments and
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Would you be interested to help me on this project?
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view of what constitutes Austrian school economics?
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There is currently a discussion at 1437:Hello. There is currently a discussion at 297:During a dispute, you should first try to 3193:Hi SPECIFICO, please take a look at your 2246:Satoshi Nakamoto called it a cash system. 2769:and as one of its contributing editors. 2621:, please reacquaint yourself with what 2057:Quarterly Journal of Austrian Economics 348:Notice of Dispute resolution discussion 317:The complete report of this case is at 902:will remove them from this article."-- 2594:the ANI concerning your 3RR violation 1833:It is worth further discussion here, 1068:User talk:Hugo Spinelli#My "mistakes" 279:by adding below this notice the text 7: 2596:. Please correct the record there. 712:I just noticed your statement here: 1759:Hi. 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Collect
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16:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
The Devil's Advocate
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21:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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22:56, 4 September 2012 (UTC)
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