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courtroom, at defense counsels table, after the day's proceedings. I don't have video proof or paperwork which I can provide you that shows it is MY photo. Who would ever have such materials for their OWN photos. You and other editors have exercised subjective assumption about the photo because the image appears to be of a newspaper's usage of my photo. Which I find ironic, since this whole wiki enterprise is about objectivity. Assumptions, faulty subjectivity, and incorrect observations aside....this is, has been, and always will be MY photo, in my possession, created, taken, and allowed to be used by ME. Objective analysis of this situation I hope yields a proper restoration of the image to the article. Thank you for your time.
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placed it to fit the infobox and keep the wiki page attractive. Apparently another bot saw a tag that got put on it and also automatically deleted it until I formally asked to have it restored by the deleter. He said he put it on the delete page for open discussion and I was apparently the only person who said or did anything, namely change the rationale, which as I explained seems very reasonable. Then to have another bot just delete it and ignore the intent of the page, which is to allow time to fix a problem and hope for honest discussion
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user in question,Jud,wil ot be able to sort out the licencing,there is a real reason why and as I am an online friend of hers and if you can get back to me with a private way of contacting you,I can let you know the reason why.I know Jud worked hard on this article and I can assure you she will have had permission to use these photos so please out of respect for her till you have contacted me ,please dont delete them. many thanks --
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more reasonable that the person would simply say "why don't you just use the professional portrait that I have posted on my public web site?" After all, he put it there to publicize himself. It's doubtful he would prefer a snapshot by a stranger, and if that's the case the image on the web page is not reasonably "replaceable", and should not be deletable as such.
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allow its use and/or modification anywhere else on the web for any purpose, with the only condition being that the users admit they aren't the owners of the copyright. That's obviously another catch-22 since this is a tiny step less than donating it to the public domain. Isn't there a more reasonable middle ground where they can allow its use for
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many album articles with no cover image included. My user profile contains a list of album articles I've created, many of which need album images. Are you aware of a reference I can look at regarding how to appropriately and easily upload an album image? If not, feel free to ignore or just let me know with a quick "no, sorry", hah! Just thought I'd ask. Thanks!
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business, school) are the ones that usually hold the copyrights; he most likely didn't post it on the web, the (c) holder put up the portrait; and the reason for putting up a photo on a website isn't always publicity, but mere identification. And, sadly, what one wants (a snapshot by a stranger) isn't always what someone gets.
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Hello there. I am writing to you on here as I have seen that you have asked Jud, who uplaoded photos of
Alistair Griffin to her article on him, to sort out their copyright issues as there seems to be a problem with permission to use them or rather lack of the correct licencing tags. Unfortunately the
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What part of I took the photo myself do you not understand? I work at KUSI-TV. He came by to be interviewed. I took his photo with my camera, not off of a TV screen. I stood in front of him, pointed my camera at him & pressed the shutter button. I then edited the photo because our lighting is set
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I see you make many edits to a variety of articles, so I thought you might be a good person to ask the following. I was wondering if there is a way of uploading album cover images that is fairly easy and practically a guarantee at success. It seems album cover images are a pain to deal with, so I see
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I have posted the false statement from
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Hello Skier Dude, I would like to ask you to please restore the image:KenMcKenna2.jpg. This is not the first time it has been deleted. As I have said before, it is my photo, it has always been my photo, the photo was taken, processed, and utilized ALWAYS within MY possession. It was taken in the
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There's no indication on the school website that this was ever presented as a publicity photo (i.e. distributed in a press kit and as part of that intended for even limited use). Simply putting it up on their website doesn't equal their offering it as a publicity photo. And yes, you're right, it
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Thank you for all your help,I will try to do what you have suggested regarding the info on licencing ,I am fairly new to wiki so im still finding my way round how it all works so I may need to call on you again for mor help and advice in the future if thats ok Many thanks for all your help so far
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I didn't realize that this image was just one of 275 that you deleted that day, so I assume it was done by your bot. And I guess that's normally OK, even if it was done automatically without analysis first. But please understand that I took the time to find and upload this image, cropped it, and
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1. You earlier suggested that his photo could be taken "...by someone at his school or at one of the many places he frequents...", implies that it's more "reasonable" to take candid (i.e. papparazzi-style) photo or else interrupt a busy economist to snap a photo for the world to have. It's seems
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Noticed the image was deleted even though a discussion on its fair use was open. Note that after it was placed for deletion the image info and fair use rationale was changed and after the change, six days ago, no responses were made to dispute the new rationale. Can you check into this? Thanks.
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which will be imported to my sandbox as soon as it finishes, so I wanted to invite you again to help. Few changes, and I'll publish the source code, then you -if you wish- will be able to customize -e.g. run it in any category in any wiki you want- it freely easily. BTW, is your bot written in
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Hello again ... Yes those are the images I am referring to.I didnt want to have to do this on here publically but sadly Jud died a few months ago suddenly,so theres no way she can change the licences for these photos and I dont know what to do in these circumstances...any ideas on how to get
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A few premises there can't be upheld; first, the person here in question didn't put his "professional portrait" on "his" public web site to "publicize himself". In fact, the likelihood that he owns a "professional portrait" is very low, as the photographer and/or the entity (i.e. ad agency,
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Yet me as founder 20 years ago who knows it best is attempting to correct the facts, clearly identified as me as founder can not because I have a conflict of interest. Why not let both sides be heard as I tried to do, keep the false posts and let me clearly id'd as founder correct them.
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of the Films WikiProject newsletter has been published. You may read the newsletter, change the format in which future issues will be delivered to you, or unsubscribe from this notification by following the link. My apologies for the late delivery, and thanks go to both
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article so that only autoconfirmed users can edit and move it. Would you also consider protecting the article from being moved as well? I do not see any legitimate reason for an editor to ever move the article, except if Meyer were to change her name. Thank you.
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was changed (and yes, I did read the new rationale) is that it still didn't answer the base question of being a replaceable fair use image. Being a replaceable image, therefore, it was still deletable. I added that (admittedly brief) note on the deletion note.
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Thanks for listing images on PUI. Did you know that there's a new, faster process for images where the uploader provides a source claims the image has been released under a free license, but there is no evidence of the release? Images like this can be tagged
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and not just a year-book type photo for his school. That's why the publicity rationale was use for its fair use and that rationale still makes the most sense. It is really not a "replaceable" image by any reasonable standard. Hope you can agree.
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image description page. You are welcome to add comments to its entry at the discussion if you are interested in it not being deleted. Thank you. Skier Dude (talk) 03:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC) --Skier Dude (talk) 03:03, 14 December 2008 (UTC)
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I don't understand why someone can make false comments that claim our
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Again, it can't be assumed that this was issued for publicity, unless it says there clearly, which I didn't see at the website mentioned. Use therefore must go through the leviathan OTRS system.
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seeing his work taken down again. If some of those other 275 deletions on just one day were like this one, I feel bad for the other editors who can't take the time to deal with the issue.
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intened for publicity, I'm not sure why you would think that. His web site is primarily to sell his consulting services and writings. The image is part of his site's professional
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Again, a convincing argument here isn't needed because the item still didn't meet the 'replaceable fair use' requirements. No additional discussion is needed if this is the case.
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use a non-free image of a living person (unless they're like a Greta Garbo). And since we're dealing with either a press realease or publicity type of image, the person will
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by someone at his school or at one of the many places he frequents just taking his picture. An alternative to this is to get the school to "release" this via the
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The logo is the ownership of Royal Danish Library (Det Kongelige Bibliotek) but it is free to use for quotations. See this web-page at the Royal Library web-site
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We are not selling or promoting just sharing info that so many have found helpful in their lives but don't like lies being posted which can not be responded to.
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