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4339:. It is my opinion that future article should concentrate on that strategy too, as well as on the process of collecting recognitions. As for sources, these daily and weekly (or similar) media are the only sources in Macedonia, since all process relating to negotiations and/or recognitions is kept top secret. I will here just quote the one opinion of diplomat dealing with strategy of Macedonian name in the UN. Macedonian international law prof. Igor Janev, stated that there is no solution to the name issue through negotiations with Athens. - A diplomatic solution is impossible here. The exit strategy should be a Resolution, passed by the UN General Assembly, to replace the reference "the Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia" with the constitutional name - the Republic of Macedonia. An alternative would be to request an Advisory opinion from the International Court of Justice for the imposition of additional conditions on Macedonia before its UN membership. Once this is done, the General Assembly should replace the illegal reference used now with the constitutional name - the Republic of Macedonia. There are similar statements by Amb. Risto Nikovski, prof. Biljana Vankovska and President of the 3889:

negative fashion even though I am not, but those accusers never got any lifetime bans either - or even warnings, but I am sure that that is a separate matter and not important or relevant. I have learnt my lesson and will be far more submissive to personal attacks against myself and NEVER respond if ever I am allowed back to edit any talk page on anything relating to Ancient Macedon in my life time. I will also not question why certain editors affiliate themselves with certain members like luxure or if I suspect there is an organised editing pattern towards ancient Macedonia pages. I think the ban for the rest of my life is deserved as you stated, so really I have no complaints and as stated above, I realise the mistakes I have made. I realise that to question what I questioned should result in nothing less than a lifetime ban and am humble that I am still allowed to edit wiki after such vile act that I committed. I suppose I have calmed a lot since then. Keep up the good fight anyway and good luck! You especially will need it more than anyone!

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Greek, in letters/speeches and commonly and openly claimed Greek descent from the Argead dynastic house of Argos. they often went out of their way to state their Greek ancestry due to aggressive enemies within the Greek world who sought to devalue their Greek credentials. Is it then fair to mention that they were 'Greek' kings on the introduction pages of their respective articles as that is what they self identified as. This 'Greek' label was unceremoniously removed years ago by the famous army of editors that redefined these pages for ever. As far as logic goes, would it be acceptable to mention these kings were as Greek as they referred to themselves. As it stands, the reader has no indication these kings were Greek unless he scans the 1800 line article and notices under culture that these kings shared the same religion/language etc as 'Greeks.' I would be really interested to hear your opinion on the matter.

4139:. The page is the Golden Dawn Party page. Currently there are two logos/party flags in the infobox. Usually there should be just one party logo per party per infobox. The reason there is two is one editor refuses to remove the red and black logo that Golden Dawn used to use before they added a laurel and change of colour to their logo. What is worse is that this older red and black logo (which is not used by the official party website or the TV stations in election results) already exists further down the article. So we have two identical images in the same article. I was wondering if you could read the debate which is not very long with the editor who reverts all deleting of this duplicated image and weigh in with a comment on whichever side you feel is appropriate, if any. We are one revert away from the 3 revert rule. Here is the debate : 2019:. But I doubt even that assumption is warranted anyway. Note that the search statistics on Google are composite of all searches for the term either alone or in combination with other search terms. I find it extremely unlikely that "M." searches from the region itself would typically be searches for the term in isolation, and therefore likely to end up at our Knowledge article. When is the last time you googled for "Greece", to find out what Greece is? I'm sure I never googled for "Germany", not once in my life. People don't look up their own countries in Google: they already know where they are. People in Macedonia will be using the term as a qualifier to narrow down searches when they look for specific things in their country, but why would they want to look up the country as such? 1025:

themselves simply as "locals" (Greek: dopii), to distinguish themselves from native Greek-speaking settlers who entered the area in the 1920s and after. Such speakers will also use the term "Macedonians", though in a regional sense like the other Bulgarian inhabitants of Macedonia. Those of Greek persuasions are sometimes called by the pejorative term "Grecomans" by the other side. Greek sources, which usually avoid the identification of the group with the nation of the Republic of Macedonia, and also reject the use of the name "Macedonian" for the latter, will most often refer only to so called "Slavophones" or "Slavophone Greeks". "Slavic-speakers" or "Slavophones" is also used in international academic discourse as a cover term for people across the different ethnic orientations.

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distribution of our article hits. And even if it did, so what? Are people from Skopje second-class users, whose interests are less important to us than other people? You can wiggle as much as you want, the fact remains: The country has five times as much reader interest as the ancient kingdom, ten times as much as the Greek region, and twenty times as much as the geographical region, and that worldwide and with rock-solid figures, and that's all we need to know. – Oh, and, if people were coming in through Google more than they do through the search box, we'd expect more of an effect on our readership figures in reaction to the changes in Google presentation. We are not seeing any of that.

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term Aegaen gained widespread popularity in Bulgaria after WWI, when Sofia desired an Aegean outlet, specifically Aegean Thrace. Then, a 1930s map of 'geographic' Macedonia showed 'Aegean Macedonia' as a sub-division comprising today's Greek province of Central Macedonia. There may have been a German mention of Aegean Macedonia in 1943. But the term came alive with Tito and Tempo. It is basically a harmless term, exept for its usage in the VMRO-DPMNE circles of Skopje and in some members of its diaspora, who give it an irredentist allure. Of course this is mostly POV for Knowledge and I will not be writing it up in the article.

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original vector image maybe you could embed the title Macedonia in the image. I feel that the wikilinks are more helpful than the text you have in the image and associate with the correct dab listing better. Because the descriptive text should follow that in the page because any changes in that will create confusion. E.g. you say "modern geographical Macedonia" when the dab page now reads "wider geographic region". That is not so easy on the reader. What if you deleted the image legend and we put small texts by each line with the same colour of the line and using the current titles of the articles? (and maybe no cities too)

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you could add your own "evidence" section. We had a discussion about dictionaries prior to the RFC (see main articles talk archives) and I have concluded that the microstructure (i.e. arrangement) of the entries cannot be used consistenly to infer primary topic. The reason is that some dictionaries use alphabetical order, others including the Oxford English use chronological ordering (thus placing the kingdom first). However there are some dictionaries that use some relative "prevalence" criteria and those don't seem to always list the country first (unless they have a topic-restricted bias to modern countries)

2015:. Even if every Macedonian were to search for "M." 100 times more often than the average person elsewhere, that would still acount for a maximum of a few percents of the total search traffic. And even if we assumed that these, maybe, maximally, 5 percent translated directly into the same percentage of Knowledge hits, and those hits were all directed at the country article, and we discounted all of them, that would still not make a significant change to the overall finding that the country article has about three times more readers than all the other articles 941:. This is interesting. Most of the list is made up of Embassy pages using the word Macedonia, and immediately they are on the list, under countries who recognise the Republic of Macedonia. I wonder how many of those editors received warnings from ChrisO? I am going to make this action of ChrisO stick as his behaviour in general has downgraded the neutrality Administrators are supposed to have. Any help on how to make him come to account for this action would be most appreciated. He has put the case down here: 2982:

developments. In fact, your answer explains me the key points, and I am starting to understand more now (I had to have someone to spell things for me to make sure I read correctly the meaning of the decision). I meet with the name Macedonia on WP quite rarely, but occasionally I do, and it was frustrating to me personally not to understand what usage is best and when. Most of the places I meet with the term are in-text. Again, thank you very much for your explanations and everything.

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some other part (e.g. a 10 times deadlier substance in a solution) that part would definately affect greatly the property of the whole (e.g. a drop of cyanide in a glass of water). Now imagine with 100 times multiplier!! That's unrealistic by the way. I would put the regional users at having 10-20 times the frequency of searching for the term than the rest of Macedonia searchers. The only thing that compensates for the high volume of regional searchers is that

2785:, while, actually, the damage was much worse in Mississippi: text about deaths/floods there was continually removed or censored, even though the flooding/damage was perhaps 500x times worse: all coastal cities in Mississippi flooded over 90% within hours (up to 10m or 32ft deep), while New Orleans slowly flooded only 70% and usually less than 1.5m or about 5ft deep. Hundreds of edits/discussions occurred, and the result: the text remained to sustain the lie: 3831: 2898:. It will perhaps take some time now for them to draft the "resolution" in one place. But after that may I ask/suggest the following. I note that while for "Other articles", resp. "Other article titles" the choices were A, resp. C, you drafted B, resp. B (which for example I supported), which (if I am correct) are very close in meaning to A, resp. C. You seem to know very well the topic, and I am confused as to the extent B, resp. B is 3862:

campaigning against the exact same kind of behaviour against Greek editors. So I am sorry, but your block was deserving. For your information however, I don't think that the block of editors you describe, whatever their motivations may be, have any of the ethnic affiliations you think. And it shouldn't be relevant regardless. Unless I am mistaken, the list of self-identifications of ethnicities of editors was fortunately deleted.

4722: 4287:. To not start the first sentence there with that piece of information does not make it invalid nor up for removal to all other articles in the wiki. Is your only concern to make all the articles remove the adjective "Greek" from next to Macedonia? How will that satisfy you in the end? Will someway the ancient kingdom cease to be considered Greek if the wiki doesn't say it in the beginning of all articles? In the 4801: 844: 778: 3641: 4614: 4539: 4466: 4430: 3210:, gave the historic/region meanings first. But I didn't check their front matter to see what their primacy policy was. In any case, there are enough reliable sources that do either disambiguate M. or list historic/region first to demonstrate the case for a disambig. I might end up putting the NOAD in my statement, but worry that I should recheck their primacy policy. Anyway, have a nice break. 2205:

tickets to Macedonia, the address of a company's branch offices in Macedonia, street maps of Macedonia, news reports about Macedonia. What could Knowledge teach them that they don't already know? – Second point: No idea what you are on about. Of course the search results for "Macedonia, Ohio" are not created exclusively by people from that town. Same goes for them as for the Macedonians:

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the "GREECE" string go across the region, but there's visual complications: it just won't fit easily. I'd have to remove the periphery boundaries witin Greece, and/or move the city name of Thessaloniki, and/or make it too small to read at this thumb size, and/or make labels go across boundary lines, which would make them harder to read too. Your preferences?

4818:. However, the image is currently not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. You may add it back if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see 3555: 2930:) to include this name in the brackets, e.g. "Republic of Macedonia (under the name Former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia)". I believe there is no harm in starting a RfC to discuss these two minor proposals. I am not suggesting to actually propose them (I have no opinion about that), but to discuss and analyse them, see pluses and minuses. 2478:, as currently configured, logs all changes involving the word "Macedonia" but does not block any edits. The community is strongly advised to consider adding a new abuse filter criterion; any instances of changing the word "Macedonia" to "FYROM" (the five-letter acronym, not the full phrase) shall be prevented. 3433:

Think about it, I suspect your interest is not in the video itself but in what it represents. You joined Knowledge to write about what you are interested in. I suggest you redirect your efforts and provide the wiki with writing that you are knowledgeable of while others may not be interested in... see below:

4005:. Hellenistic Greece is a direct consequence of Macedonian conquest. Not something previously invented and then dominated by Macedon as your edit implies and which may suit an idea that Macedonians were separate conquerors of Hellenistic Greece rather than the founders of the age. Hope this makes sense. 3883:

Hello Shadowmorph. Yes indeed my ban was warranted. Firstly because I assumed Taivo and Futperf have south Slavic roots simply because they supported Luxure (the editor of 'Macedonia had no kings' and 'The Greekness of Macedonia is a myth') and secondly because even though I never actually edited any

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Hi Shadow - if you get this before your break starts, have a good one. We're about to have a major nationalistic holiday here ourselves. I'm a little surprised to hear that about primacy in dictionaries; had always understood that the numbering system reflected the compilers' findings in that regard,

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Thank you very much for your answer. I can definitively understand the fatigue. Please, do not be bothered by this because I asked you. Only if it is of interest to you and you find it useful, you might at some point of time in the future, say in a year, to think more about it, once you also know the

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BTW, another aspect I didn't discuss yet in that proposal is: contexts where the difference between the various "Macedonias" doesn't really matter. For instance, "X was born in Ohrid, Macedonia" is true no matter how ambiguous "Macedonia" is – Ohrid is still in Macedonia even when you're not thinking

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is strongly admonished for displaying a long pattern of incivil, rude, offensive, and insulting behavior towards other editors and failure to address the community's concerns in this regard. Because of this Future Perfect at Sunrise is subject to an editing restriction for one year, and is desysopped

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It's 10 times more in favor of the country even after the redirect. Just as expected. That can only be explained if all Macedonia-related articles are being read by readers from a national interest. The rest of the world is outranked. I doubt whether international readers would not like to know about

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Your scaling error is that when you say they search for M. 100 times more often then you go on and apply that to the number of unrelated users, not the number of searchers of "M". Think about it. Purely mathematically, if a certain part of a population (0.1%) has a property that is 10 times more than

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Ethnic appellations used to describe the group vary along with political orientation. The term "Aegean Macedonians" (Macedonian: Егејски Македонци, Egejski Makedonci) is associated with the large part of the population with an ethnic Maceodnian identity. Speakers who identify as Greeks often speak of

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Look, I implore you: stop. Please, just stop. Now. Everything you have been doing to those dab pages has been hopelessly confused. You are just taking it from one level of nonsense to the next higher level with every edit. It's getting worse and worse. Stop. You have not the inkling of an idea of how

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Since there is no political solution between Macedonia and Greece, one can conclude that Macedonian strategy is related to the busting number of member - states that will recognize Macedonia under its constitutional name Republic of Macedonia. It is Apparent that Macedonia will try to implement the

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Thank you very much, I appreciate it. I checked if you are still around and was sorry to see you were topic-banned. I looked it up and was especially worried about your "bad-faith assumptions (ascribing editors' motivations to their nationality)". Curious enough, everybody called me names when I was

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Hello, Shadowmorph. I'm sorry you have been facing so many difficult users in the articles about Macedonia. That is one of the dangers of Knowledge: that a group of people begin bullying others to drive them away, but that happens from time to time. If the various people edit-war too much, then they

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Yes but why put all that in the proposal. It is clearly standard practice, however in cases you had to disambiguate it the first time then it might be that you'd have to disambiguate it in some other part too. It is difficult to include a wording about that in the proposal but since common sense can

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don't need Knowledge to learn where their town is. The relatively high status of "Macedonia Ohio" just reflects the fact that those two words together form a statistically significant collocation somewhat more prominent than the myriad other things (flight tickets, books, addresses, whatever) people

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Also don't think that so many people would use Knowledge's shitty search box. I prefer searching on Google to find Knowledge articles, sometimes without even adding "wiki" if I think the wikipedia article will surely pop-up. for one thing I prefer writing 5 words than pressing shift twice to add "("

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now that I think of it, it was more confusing without the intro.... It is very difficult to arrive at a shorter hat I guess, since your "not to be confused" that I supported is not supported by consensus... whatever. I don't want to venture in that place again. By the way we may have a bad start but

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One has to try hard to find a news report that speaks of the continent, just like it is hard to find a news report that speaks of the ancient kingdom. That doesn't mean that the name is not used to refer to it. Besides the disambiguation of Macedonia is for a quadruple, not a double meaning. Anyway,

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I doubt our readers would care. All they need to know at that point is that if they are looking for material about the real country or region or whatever, they need to click that one link there in the first line. Everything that visually reduces the highlighted status of that link, by surrounding it

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I cannot express to you adequately how profoundly I share your concerns regarding the unconscionable move of the article in question. Unfortunately, I might myself be caught in a COI if I, who had been involved in the discussion, were to unlock it and move it back. I have contacted other parties and

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Thanks for the friendly message! Yes, I'll have a look at those two pages. My interest in Benakis was because I was writing (outside Knowledge) about Venizelos -- but also I have visited the Benakis museum and have read some of Penelope Delta's memoirs. I sometimes use the Latin Knowledge as a kind

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Oh and you may have noticed I removed the POV tag. Neutrality is somewhat better than when the article was first written. A word of advice, try to focus your energy on the article that are really important to you and your interests. Aside from tourist video enthusiasts, who would read that article?

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Well ok I agree with you there need's a lot of work too, but trust me that all the archeological sites that are in video were found on Macedonian territory ... really ... And I don't know, but you know that for the ethnic Macedonians Ancient, Macedonians are a connection with today's one... I don't

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Those are more or less the main differences but there are a few more issues. Anyway I wouldn't worry so much now: since the most contentious of the issues were decided in one way or another I would expect common sense to prevail now. Let me remind you that quite many of the page titles did not pose

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Proposal C about OAT is mainly different regarding the part with the clear policy negation of assuming a primary topic by means of an arbitrary date. I can envision users objecting to that and more primary topic discussions to begin. However there are already multiple Macedonia-related articles out

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need much more detail to explain the history, economy, and landscape of those islands. For that reason, I see a lot of potential for many people to work together, happily, as long as they avoid some of the more controversial articles, such as some about Macedonia or Hurricane Katrina. I hope you'll

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or too-superior, and then they begin restricting the rules and prevent other people from becoming "trusted". It could become just as bad due to the, resulting, lack of people: there are not enough hurricane-info people, so Mississippi damage still would not get true descriptions, because there just

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Knowledge is based on a very-open concept of edit-freedom, which, unfortunately, allows some groups of people to concentrate, in a bullying manner, to slant articles. The alternate approach, of trusted user-names, used in other websites, might be where Knowledge is headed, someday, to reduce wasted

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article the lead is much better written than what we used to have in Macedonia article. No actual need to mess with it. Also in that article's lead, since it is all about Alexander and less about his country, there is no better and compact way to convey the crucial information that Macedonia was a

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In the "evidence" section (see navbox) of the discussion there is a survey titled MOSMAC2 in Fut.Perf.'s user page. In there it seems that the opposite of what you say is mentioned, although it acknowledges that many dictionaries list the region/kingdom first. If you can cite specific dictionaries

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link. Remove anyone you want, I am considering removing the whole section "Famous Macedonians" which cannot be complete and might not be relevant to the scope of the article. And please any more additions should be done only in list of Macedonians (Greek), it's just a sample, the main list covers

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Well first off, I didn't think the map was a good idea in the first place. That's because we have like two dozen of these maps or more scattered around the other pages and not all of them agree with each other. It is difficult to pick one as correct. I appreciate your effort and since you have the

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Is it so important to have the literal string "Greek Macedonia" or "Macedonia (Greece)" somewhere there? The region is right next to the big large string "GREECE". I found that perfectly easy to understand. Okay, I originally would have wanted to put a legend for Greek Macedonia in too, or to make

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I know and perfectly understand what you are saying. Keep in mind that while I was working on the lead, hell broke loose again and it was reverted to my first draft. I too believe there should be a better combination of words to describe that. Still on the next paragraph the word "inaugurated" is

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Thank you for the Newsweek reference. I have found an earlier, on the record, mention. It was in a Bulgarian book published in Sofia in the 1930s. My line of thinking is that the source of the term goes back to the Drang Nach Ost of the Austro-Hungarian Empire to gain an outlet in the Aegean. The

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sources (i.e. not dealing only with countries) give inconsistent indications about primacy and almost always give an indication of a strong ambiguity and not of any overwhelming prevalence of any particular meaning. You can also check out the Loring Danforth source in the references which gave an

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CE. People are needed to edit dozens of articles about the old temples and cities, and explain how many centuries they had remained, and list all the major artwork they once contained. Typically, the necessary detailed information is simply not added, even though no one would edit-war to prevent

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and so on). Even though the guideline, as I found out yesterday, deprecates the hatlinks in such cases, I believe we should continue to use them. The reason is that we must accommodate those readers who click on a link in some other article where the text says plain "Macedonia", end up say at the

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I was on an "editing" mode before, paused it for you Fut. I have some relevant photos of the monuments, still haven't uploaded them. I think that Macedonians (Greeks) is better sounding since both of the words are in the plural. Forgive my aggressive manner of editing, it's just to counter yours.

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I understand that purely because Macedonian's see their nation and refer to their nation as 'Macedonia' wiki has to follow suit on how it names the article. I am fine with that. My question is this. Alexander the Great, his father Philip II and many of their forefathers referred to themselves as

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FIFO. First issue: I don't think you got my point. I don't think Macedonian people would google for the Knowledge articles on Macedonian music or the Macedonian army either, in any particularly noteworthy numbers. They will be googling for companies that sell CDs in Macedonia, that offer airline

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an ancient Greek kingdom. While some discussions have been made about some notions pertaining to 800 years before Alexander the Great, in his time he was - of course - king of a Greek kingdom. And loudly self-declaring himself and his kingdom as such on any given occasion. My edits on Macedonia

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I don't know if I have the time now to work on that and consider also the fatigue because of all this; thanks for caring though. You are right that the other pages (OP) and other article titles (OAT) are close in meaning to my drafts. Actually the C in OAT was drafted after I drafted B so as to

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Okay, thanks for the offer. What I find is seriously missing from your "B" is the clause about subsequent mentioning after previous disambiguation. For me, that's just a central demand of good writing. Nobody in their right mind would use a disambiguator more often than needed if their goal was

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frequencies. Having Skopje listed up there on top means that Skopje people use the term in their searches more often than other people. But with people from Skopje being still such a tiny drop in the ocean of all people elsewhere, that will still not register in any significant way on the total

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about the other thing you say I would agree but it is too weird to include it. Why would someone want to insert a vague statement that can be read in two ways (unless he is Pythia). Anyway taking a wikibrake now. Cannot continue writing right now. Feel free to add your criticisms in the pages.

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I have not added an email adress to my account yet. I am afraid that I can only do it after Macedonia related discussion is closed since only by adding an email I fear that it might give a wrong impression. We can talk later (after all that) if you still wish to contact me. It's summertime, no

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than modern academia. What I did was beyond reproach and far worse than accusing new users of being sockpuppets with no evidence like we just saw on the Ancient Macedonia talk page yesterday which you highlighted but did not call for action. Indeed I was accused of being Greek many times in a

2242:(Greece) article, and then think, "huh? I thought M. was something different? Since when is it no longer a country?" So all the secondary articles should have the standard hatlink, preferably in its simplest form: "For other uses, see ... (disambiguation)". No need to further mess with these. 1174:

The famous Macedonians (Greeks) MUST BE OF MACEDONIAN ORIGIN (even by one branch) and NOT descentants of refugees of 1922. Otherwise there's no need of the existance of the article. Please remove the Macedonians of NON Macedonian origin. This is an article about a tribe and not about a place.

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Shadow, what I don't like about those legend boxes is that they force the eye to move up and down several times before you can understand how the legends are supposed to link up with the areas, and that means considerable reading effort for very little information gain. Your latest version is

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there and it is unlikely any new one will be created now. I would be more favourable to redirecting to the primary topic . A redirect to an article with a full name will be less likely to cause any trouble as an article situated in the common name will. It would also be more consistent.

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Could you perhaps choose some form of presentation of your new "Proposal B" for the "other articles" that makes it a bit more evident to the reader what is different from Proposal A? I just skimmed over it and it looks so similar to A it's really hard to spot the details that differ.

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that ChrisO is a spy too. I really wouldn't care about you being a nationalist but you guys (the other side) seem to make a big fuss about the opposers political standpoints. It is the objective evidence that should matter. So, just asking - don't answer if you don't want to, what

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Ok, I 'll stop in a little while, but why should I have to? I haven't done anything against Knowledge rules. If nobody likes it, it will be reverted - eventually. Edit your way (yours is NPOV, unlike others), but don't do it on a daily basis. lease give the other editors a chance.

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the United States, it is rare for people to refer to the country as "America". Normally it is simply "the US" or "the USA" or "the United States". Your continued use of it as an analogue to the Macedonia issue is not helpful, and will likely serve only to undermine your position.

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hope to get response from them by the time I hope to be back tomorrow. I sincerely hope that both of us receive the kind of rational responses we deserve. Thank you, and please try to be patient. I know how hard that can be, but I do hope that reason will prevail. Hang in there.

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Hi Shadowmorph, I'm changing back some of the edits you made to conform with the discussion page. Specifically the changes to the wording of the International reaction in the Lead. Feel free to join the discussion and suggest changes, but wait for consensus before making them

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for disambiguation but to make a point for some POV agenda. This would also force us to re-insert "Republic of" in a large number of cases where plain "Macedonia" has been in use uncontroversially for a long time, for instance in subsequent occurrences in the body of the main

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Interesting point, However the term "Greek Macedonian" never refers to the ethnic Macedonians from Greece, they are known as "Aegean Macedonians". "Macedonian Australian", is at its current location because it is the primary topic. "Greek Macedonian Australian"; is covered in

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Okay, I'll merge it under the "Greeks" title then. Give me ten minutes, this takes a bit of admin handiwork. I'm personally still not convinced the article is legit, but I won't redirect it for now, as that might be understood as against the spirit of the arb injunction.

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I have not said you acted in bad faith. You believe your opinion on this issue is the best want to help Knowledge by suggesting people to read your comments and rationale in support of one proposal. (The one you have emplaced yourself and has been the status quo for

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It seems it is, I added the species and tweaked it a bit. By the way: funet is only usefull for butterflies and moths. I guess you would encounter genera for all kinds of life-forms if you are filling in red links in disambiguation pages. Cheers and thanks again.

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The funny thing? I go downtown, find a library with LOC's volumes (the famous huge red tomes), make librarians go out of their way for A3 photocopies (strangely, only A4 is permitted), come back, scan the pages, log in and while pausing for a last googling, I see

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in the "Active Arbitration" box. If you wish to make any comments regarding the matter, please feel free to do so, observing proper wikipedia etiquette of course. Yes, I know that might be hard; I have had trouble with it myself in this instance, so I sympathize.

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so much of a problem for years. Of course the occasional changes of RoM to FYROM would not cease whatever we do and it is only natural since there is a large community of Greek users who consider that term to be an accurate and NPOV description of the country.

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be applied it is not needed. In that sense proposal B is more direct. The proposal nowhere says that Rpublic of Macedonia needs to be mechanically repeated. It leaves that to the editor. I don't see any edit wars about that uncontroversial cases you mentioned.

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I just got a warning from ChrisO for 'Original Research.' I was editing the list in the Macedonia Name Dispute page and I had just removed a reference used fort he Dutch position as it was a dead link. Then I noticed the two GOVT references on this page:

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and the front matter in at least one of the dictionaries I looked at mentions primacy. But lexicographers in this Guardian article mention primacy as varying by dictionary type, live and learn. (They also mention a feeling of power and responsibility)

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was an accident? I didn't revert your latest edits, but I still find the current version unacceptable. It's the most outrageously dysfunctional, convoluted and non-conformant version of this page I've seen in a long while, and that's saying something.

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article lead, besides serving a purpose to improve it as a whole, was a compromise wording to achieve stability without sacrifice of meaning. What is your justification of wanting to change the Alexander article? Think about it and hold that thought.

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rewrites by perhaps 90%. Restricting edits to trusted-names appears to be 10x faster and easier to work with people in trusted-name websites. However, the danger in those exclusive groups is that, rather than bullying others, some groups become

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Yes indeed i was notified that my account needed to be confirmed because of a certain user who harasses the talk page constantly. Pity this user and i agree on the matter but he/she seemed hellbent on making their own changes to the article.

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Hi. Thank you VERY much for your message on my user page. I was busy in real life, therefore the delay. Now, because of your provided links, I don't have to read and check all diffs since I was gone and can just jump to the point. Thank you,

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all risk being banned from any Macedonia edits for, perhaps, 6 months, so that is even worse. Instead, try working on some other articles for a few weeks. There is little else you can do, and admins cannot easily protect you from the others.

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A typical user from group B (nationals) will search for "Macedonia football", "Macedonia music", "Macedonia eurovision" and "Macedonia"(alone, why not?). He would do that 20 times in a month. That means that each user from group B, counts as

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page. I know you go for simplicity. But shouldn't the original name be distinct or the Greek version, and not create a different impression by mixing with the slavic names? I trust you to understand the issue. I wont make a big fuss about it

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recommend). However, I'd leave the "This article is about..." summary in the country article in. Reason is, people may well recognise that the article is primarily about a modern country, but they may not realise at first sight that it is

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slightly better than the last, but still too confusing for my taste. (Yes, even I myself, who know by heart what the map shows, feel visually disoriented simply looking at it now. My eyes have no clear point of orientation to look to.)

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located above the edit window. This will automatically insert a signature with your name and the time you posted the comment. This information is useful because other editors will be able to tell who said what, and when. Thank you!

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term. "Aegean Macedonia" is another one, that you have used, I think. Anyway I didn't say it was, I just said that nickname analysis can jump into conclusions like e.g that you are a nationalist. I was just making a point. I didn't

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flooded only a few feet) while 3-story buildings in Mississippi were flattened or gutted by ships or barges washed ashore, with debris driven 12 miles inland. Hence, Knowledge could not tell the truth about "Hurricane Katrina".

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in great light, so I want to write about them... ok I will listen to your advice and make some other useful articles, but I don't want this to be deleted because, I spent a lot of energy and enthusiasm on it :) ... Greetings!

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Is not actually correct. That is like saying Darwin later went on to dominate ideas about Natural Selection. Darwin invented ideas on Natural Selection. Thus, any historian will tell you, Macedonia and Alexander the Great

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that would take to B, resp. B on those 2 questions. Would you be able to test-draft such a hypothetical proposal? No rush. I understand that the main reason against B was "unwierdy" character. I want to understand to what

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Okay, thanks for the clarification, but I'd strongly prefer to have it mentioned somewhere, because we've seen some excesses of formalistic "but the guideline says so!" against such common sense applications in the past.

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Besides even if you are right about how Americans commonly refer to their country, how do Australians, New-Zealanders, people from UK, and other English speakers that live in other parts of the world refer to "America"?

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Sense of humour or no sense of humour, but your addition to the "Fool's Guide" page can in fact be read as insinuating that somebody has been acting insincerely in the case, so I would recommend you remove that.

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Don't you think that some of your proposals in Workshop are overlapping with previous proposals by other users? Not an issue of substance, but it crossed my mind and I felt the need to tell it to you! Cheers!--

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Macedonia related article in my 8 years as a editor, I only edited in the talk pages, sometimes vote against any 'proposals' of the above users as I found their proposals more in line with the politics of the

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Well ok, but u can see that I am quite nervous... I spent 1 week on writing and defining the article and now it just like everything fail in water (i mean been deleted) ... btw don't be mad but are u Greek???

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I was wondering if you could chip in with an opinion before a conflict goes to arbitration, which it is about to as the Knowledge policies clearly state all avenues must be exhausted before arbitration as a

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Thank God! You finally decided it! Did any oven collapse (Greek expression!)? I have abandoned Helen a bit, but this weekend you'll see miracles in the article. I intend to be back soon to the FAC page! Hi!

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FYI, there was a technical glitch in one posting of yours on one of the Arbcom pages, where you had used the string "{{person}} of Macedon", and then somebody by chance went and actually created a template

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accurate description of the situation of English usage was in 1997 (the country was just emerging as a meaning). I have not been able to find a more recent citation that assess what is the situation now.

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The reasons I asked the questions in the Macedonia cent. talk is because I am pretty convinced that if I did the exact same thing someone would have called me as canvassing. So I wanted to be sure.

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really just to ensure unambiguous understanding; insisting that we should use the longer phrase mechanically even in repeated cases would just send the message to the reader that it's being used

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are relative to total net traffic from each location. Macedonians make up for about 0.04% of the world's population, and the R.o.M. makes up for about 0.06% of the world's internet connections

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Hi Shadowmorph. Sorry for disturbing you. When you have a minute can you please give me a link to proposal A1? I went to the main article page and I could only find proposal A. Thanks. Tasos (

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usage is? (Oddly, the Concise OED avoids the issue altogether). The dictionaries at my library all list the ancient kingdom or region first; do you think that's worth mentioning? Sincerely,

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with more text, makes the page less ergonomic. The etymological and orthographical details are irrelevant for the purpose of a dab page; explaining them in the footnote is more than enough.

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on "talk". And just so you know, have you looked at the stats for the ARBCOM pages? With that readership they should deserve a link at the hat link :) (remember the stats are pageviews not

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that basically suggest Macedonia in one moment will bring issue to the UN General Assembly for vote on establishing its constitutional name Republic of Macedonia in the UN, replacing

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Practically A about OP leaves room for more discussions about naming rather than fixing the use to one name in some articles: I would hope that we won't get too problematic about that

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Sorry, I don't know nothing or care for that matter. From what I get it is just an infobox debate? The only advice I can give you is to focus your creative time to something useful.

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Ok, but please be polite. All interested editors have all the time they need to fix the article since I gave a lengthy description of the issues and I didn't just tag it and leave.

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there is a probability that they will click on the related link about the country too. Such a high volume of traffic is transferred from article to article, probably following some

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On balance, many other subjects in Knowledge are, still, wide-open to add large amounts of true information. For example, many people probably do not realize that all those famous

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I have noticed since 2009 you have dedicated much of your time to defending the principles of Knowledge in the face of many sockpuppets and fraudulent pseudo history. Well done.

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Thanks for the sympathy. I'm not really a quitter but will have to lay back and see where this goes. By the way what is this arbitration you talk about? Is there a link to that?

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article. Note though, that it is no longer a valid genus, but has become a synonym. If you plan on making more genera articles (which would be great), I suggest you use Funet (

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consider some of my points. I am willing of course to respect the outcome of this consensus and I doubt that any tweeking on those is likely to occur now after the closure.

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Like I said I am not violating 1RR, I am not removing sentences or links and I will not re-add any wording I added because I thought that was the appropriate thing to do.

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Well yeah maybe you are right about this things, but you know... when I saw those videos, I couldn't just write about them, they are just adorable, great they represent

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Well, what I mean is that for instance your proposals concerning ChrisO and Avg's have certain similarities. Anyway, this is just an example, and it is not a big deal.--

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Please do not repeat your alterations to citations on the Macedonia pages - the alterations are unnecessary given the nature of the pages, and can only evoke conflict.

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article. It says that Macedon was an 'Ancient Greek Kingdom'. How would you propose to change it? 'Ancient Kingdom' is good by me. TB me when you reply. Cheers,

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So why is the existence of two dozen other (ugly) maps an argument against having this one here? I don't understand what you mean by "small texts by each line".

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Hahaha! This is very funny. I think i might leave a response in the evidence section. dont worry there are no hard feelings. :-) This is actually very comical.

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if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see

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if you think that that will be useful. However, please note that images for which a replacement could be created are not acceptable for use on Knowledge (see

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As for the proposals to use the name FYROM in Greece-related articles and articles of some Int'l organizations, you could make a second proposal that would

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It is clear that they are "Maceodnian Slavs/Slavomacedonians" etc and the Greeks are "Greek Macedonians"! What is your point? The issue is already covered.

867:, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. 801:, meaning that it is not used in any articles on Knowledge. If the image was previously in an article, please go to the article and see why it was removed. 4810: 2429: 3521: 2447: 1621:. So not even taking into account "US" and "USA", there are already nearly twice as many results for "United States" than "America". In May 2009 so far, 321: 1436:

Impressive imagery that gallery. Have they been photographed by yourself? If so, could they be uploaded without licensing issues? I have worked on the

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Blanking the article was only one point in AfD. It wasn't the agreement, regardless your view or mine. AfD was towards Keep. Please read my version of

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you are inferring Denmark's position, but the documents you cite do not say anything about whether Denmark recognises the constitutional name or not

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anything, so no hard feelings. I just wanted to show how stupid it is to analyze nicknames and how wrong conclusions it can lead to. I said so that

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different from A, resp. C. I would like to see a short test-proposal that would mention what exactly would have to be changed hypothetically from

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And I am trying to tell you that your comparison is invalid. If you do not believe me, that is your prerogative - and your loss, if I am correct.

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One wonders, of course, who "Elliott of Macedon" would have been. Probably something analogous to Brian of Nazareth but in a Macedonian phalanx?

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Yikes, you are still on about those google figures? Oh boy. Look, explain once more this to you I will, young Skywalker. The google figures at

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If all the national searchers have a specific focus and are lead to the country article following a power law, that will show up on the hits.

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readership ;) I stick to Google's analysis of the demographics of internet searchers of Macedonia. It figures that the republic would be top.

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I regulary meet people from the other side of the pond. To this day, the vast majority of them use "America", in reference to their homeland.

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You are better off removing it because there is already a seperate page for it. Perhaps provide a link to the page in the "See Also" section.

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It hasn't been filed yet - it's due to be filed on April 22nd, by common agreement. If you like I'll send you a link when it's been filed. --

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might look for in connection with the country. About the "regional interest" figures, you apparently have still not grasped the concept of

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Since you have cleaned up the Ancient Macedonia article very well (well done), I would just like to bring up with you the wording of the

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dispute over naming is concerned. Editors enforcing a case where a binding Stalemate resolution has been found are exempt from 1RR.

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but there is not a suitable explanation or rationale as to why each specific use in Knowledge constitutes fair use. Please go to

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which I intend to pursuit some time soon. I now know where to turn to in case I need some help or advice :) Take care Wikid77.

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I think you're actually right about removing the hatnotes from the minor articles (wasn't aware of it, but it's actually what

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Hello again :) I need some help. I promise this won't take long. Can you mail me? My nickname (sqrt5p1d2) at yahoo dot com.

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Was i banned from talking in that page by someone? If so why? I noticed that i cannot add anything in case i want to.

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know how, but I will try to make the article more neutral... btw what about the source, what to do with it? Greetings

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Actually I was talking about my self, my own case of being sincere and where it has led me. But Ok, you have a point.

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Dear Shadowmorph, 135 countries in UN had recognized Macedonia under its constitutional name Republic of Macedonia.

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Thanks for the link, now I will have to track that magazine to read the whole content. Happy Xmas and New year!

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extent it really is, and what are the pluses/minuses in comparison not to what existed until today, but to what

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Actually, on reconsideration, I have revised my opinion about the hat links in the "secondary" M. topics (e.g.

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of the country but of the wider region. Would you agree that might be a relevant consideration in some cases?

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Check out the talk page about the sources. About the sites, it's not a matter of me trusting you, I usually

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I can hardly say the same for you assuming my good faith though (because of previous issues in those talks).

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P.S. I gave the same exact answer to Horologium at the evidence talk page once; I received no reply by him)

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with some unrelated (and technically botched-up) text in it. I've replaced your string with " of Macedon"

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and upload them yourself; release them to public domain or whatever licenses applies, you know better.

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you need a source that states how Denmark uses the name, not infer it yourself from a random document

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I have matched the 1000-word count in my main evidence. The responses are a bit of extra. Thank you

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I have matched the 1000-word count in my main evidence. The responses are a bit of extra. Thank you

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weren't enough people to write all the hurricane facts in a trusted-name website.

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ok, didn't know that part about the summary intro, I will self revert it.

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