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sorts of voters are completely discountable. Knowledge (XXG) is not a pure democracy; though consensus matters, the opinion of newcomers unfamiliar with policy is given very little weight. Your vote, that of Tim Shell, and that wjhonson were not discounted. The others supporting your view were. I promise you that it is almost always true that, within Knowledge (XXG), any argument supported by a flood of new users will lose, no matter how many of the new users make their voices known. In the digital age, where sockpuppeting and meatpuppeting are as easy as posting to any message board, this is as it should be for the sake of encyclopedic integrity. It is a firm practice within Knowledge (XXG), and it is what every policy and guideline mean to imply, however vaguely they may be worded. (I do agree that our policies, written by laypeople mostly, could do with a once-over from an attorney such as myself; however, most laypeople hate lawyers, so efforts to tighten wording are typically met with dissent.)
87:, then reverting last changes. I am trying to alert other users who have edited the article to this dispute as I believe the detail should be included. Is it possible you can look and see if you agree that AIPAC's reaction should be included in the article? I dont believe its a content issue and is possible trolling. I previously highlighted the problems on wikipedian noticeboard 282: 172:
Within the argumentation of the debate, the most significant point raised by those who supported the article was that a new draft was available. The article is not protected, so this may be posted at any time and (assuming it is not substantially similiar to the older version) it will be judged anew
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The bad news for you is that it is well-established practice within Knowledge (XXG) to ignore completely floods of newer, obviously "single-issue POV", contributors at all our deletion fora. I'm among the most "process-wonkish" of Wikipedians, believe me, and even process-wonks accept that these
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In response to your question, the article contains more information about military actions he was involved in and not the person himself which is the core focus of the article. It would be best for this article to be stubbed to encourage those who may know more about the person and his life to
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User:GregorB offered a very brief comment not supported by policy. User:Canon did take the time to offer analysis at DRV, but he had been among the first voters at the AfD to offer a mere "Keep" without explanation; therefore, I assumed he had been solicited by someone. Best wishes,
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I made a respons a few days ago asking if you could suggest an alternative. I was wondering if you could take a few moments tor espond to this on the article's FAC page, and also indicate whether you would able to either support or oppose the article's candidacy now please.
243:, and will reappear at some point, when (hopefully) some of the ill-feeling evidenced during the debate has cooled. I am very heartened by the article's continued development, and by the development of associated articles. Thanks for everyone's help! 142:
Single purpose users are frowned upon and were a frequent bone of contention during the AfD and DRV processes. So I urge you all to "establish" yourself as Wikipedians: create, edit and even ... delete articles! There are plenty of articles that need
138:, as implemented by admins (who claim to be following the "spirit" of the law). Consequently there are lessons to be learnt from the experience, which will not be obvious from reading the guidelines. Here are some tips for future conduct: 34:
You're probably right that I took that a little too personally and snapped at you a bit, and I'm sorry. I see you're a fellow Wiki-gnome, so keep up the good work that most people will never notice -- I know how that feels. :) Best wishes,
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If your supporters were more familiar with Knowledge (XXG), they would realize that, invariably, the most effective way to establish an article after it has been deleted in a close AfD is to rewrite it: make it
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It is at the hands of the Gallic Celts that Rome suffered a humiliating defeat that temporarily set back its advance and was to imprint itself upon the Roman consciousness.
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Hi. Thank you for your input on this article's FAC. I've reduced the number of fair use images significantly. Please let us know if these changes address your concerns.
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good idea to put something on your user page, (it doesn't matter what) to avoid showing up as redlinked users -- being redlinked will count against you in any debate.
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if you have time. This lists massacres and terrorist attacks on Muslims and Sinhalese by the LTTE but LTTE sympathizers want to wipe teh record of these attacks off
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As you may have heard the Mega Society article was deleted awhile ago, at the end of an acrimonious AfD/DRV process. There is a wide divergence between deletion
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Comrade438 has made few silly edits, and comments, along with what might be a threat. It degenerated to Comrade438 blocking the page without consulting
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So the outcome was not entirely negative, although I was disappointed by the admin's rather cavalier approach evidenced by the response to my enquiry:
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article clearly belongs in the topic, but it still has to go through the nomination procedure first. This process has already started and you can
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reasons which are grounded in policy (votes not backed by reasoning may be discounted; too much reasoning will be ignored).
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Given the bias against soliciting (see judgement) I may not be able to contact you again, so I suggest you put the
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Anyway, my grumpiness aside, the Mega Society article, is presently under userfied open-development at
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eg. im being accused of trying to paint a "zionist conspiracy".
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Just wanted to say thanks for the barnstar - much appreciated! -
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which didn't fill me with confidence about Wiki-"due process".
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International reactions to the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict
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International reactions to the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict
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Three fair use images have been removed from the article
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The only concern of yours remaining is that you stated:
268:. Thanks for taking the time to review this article. 371:Thank you for your comments on the FAC for article 168:The closing admin's comments on the Mega Society: 221:to which I received this rather off-hand reply: 203:.... why did you discount the votes of, say, 8: 390:reads a bit narrative and unnecessary imo." 173:on its merits. This is good news for you. 72:Hi and welcome, There is an dispute in 373:Campaign history of the Roman military 46:Terrorist_attacks_carried_out_by_LTTE 7: 429:contribute to it. Hope this helps. 115:Changes implemented. Thanks again. 24: 280: 341:Hey Sijo. Your change to the 1: 434:14:44, 11 February 2007 (UTC) 360:17:40, 18 December 2006 (UTC) 345:page has been reverted. The 328:14:09, 26 November 2006 (UTC) 295:for the following reason(s): 405:15:15, 8 February 2007 (UTC) 337:Featured topic: Solar System 289:Your request to be unblocked 420:20:19, 8 February 2007 (UT 273:15:57, 22 August 2006 (UTC) 450: 279: 251:14:38, 5 August 2006 (UTC) 126:FYI Mega Society Judgement 120:14:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC) 110:00:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC) 100:Shadow of the Colossus FAC 231:15:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC) 216:16:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC) 194:16:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC) 94:21:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC) 60:09:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC) 40:21:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC) 241:User:MichaelCPrice/mega 355:on its inclusion. -- 165:in your watchlists. 153:When voting, include 264:per your request at 424:Yoshitsugu Tatekawa 309:Request handled by: 18:User talk:Sijo Ripa 334: 333: 326: 256:Padmé Amidala FAC 441: 419: 403: 325: 323: 317: 311: 305:lifted/expired. 284: 277: 248:Michael C. Price 213:Michael C. Price 449: 448: 444: 443: 442: 440: 439: 438: 426: 415: 412: 399: 369: 343:featured topics 339: 321: 315: 312: 258: 128: 103: 70: 65:revert dispute 51:Please vote at 49: 29: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 447: 445: 425: 422: 417:PocklingtonDan 411: 408: 401:PocklingtonDan 398:Many Thanks - 392: 391: 368: 363: 338: 335: 332: 331: 303:134.58.253.130 297: 296: 285: 257: 254: 234: 233: 219: 218: 197: 196: 181: 180: 175: 174: 159: 158: 151: 144: 127: 124: 123: 122: 102: 97: 69: 63: 48: 43: 28: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 446: 437: 435: 432: 431:thewinchester 423: 421: 418: 409: 407: 406: 402: 396: 389: 385: 384: 383: 380: 378: 374: 367: 364: 362: 361: 358: 354: 353: 348: 344: 336: 330: 329: 324: 319: 318: 310: 306: 304: 300: 294: 290: 286: 283: 278: 275: 274: 271: 267: 263: 262:Padmé Amidala 255: 253: 252: 249: 244: 242: 237: 232: 229: 224: 223: 222: 217: 214: 210: 206: 202: 201: 200: 195: 192: 188: 183: 182: 177: 176: 171: 170: 169: 166: 164: 156: 152: 149: 145: 141: 140: 139: 137: 133: 125: 121: 118: 114: 113: 112: 111: 108: 101: 98: 96: 95: 92: 91:82.29.227.171 89: 86: 81: 79: 75: 68: 64: 62: 61: 58: 54: 47: 44: 42: 41: 38: 32: 26: 19: 427: 413: 397: 393: 387: 381: 370: 357:Arctic Gnome 351: 340: 314: 308: 307: 292: 288: 287: 259: 245: 238: 235: 220: 205:User:GregorB 198: 186: 167: 163:Mega Society 160: 154: 147: 135: 131: 129: 104: 82: 71: 50: 33: 30: 375:located at 410:Thank you! 209:User:Canon 143:attention. 78:Comrade438 316:Netsnipe 299:Autoblock 291:has been 146:It is a 136:practice 117:Ryu Kaze 107:Ryu Kaze 57:Ruchiraw 293:granted 27:Apology 270:Dmoon1 187:faster 132:policy 85:WP:RPP 228:Xoloz 191:Xoloz 155:brief 37:Xoloz 16:< 352:vote 148:very 31:Hi, 436:C) 347:sun 301:of 266:FAC 207:or 322:► 246:-- 386:" 185:"

Index

User talk:Sijo Ripa
Xoloz
21:05, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Terrorist_attacks_carried_out_by_LTTE
http://en.wikipedia.org/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Terrorist_attacks_carried_out_by_LTTE
Ruchiraw
09:55, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
International reactions to the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict
International reactions to the 2006 Israel-Lebanon conflict
Comrade438
WP:RPP

82.29.227.171
21:28, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
Shadow of the Colossus FAC
Ryu Kaze
00:25, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Ryu Kaze
14:42, 5 August 2006 (UTC)
Mega Society
Xoloz
16:22, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
User:GregorB
User:Canon
Michael C. Price
16:49, 27 July 2006 (UTC)
Xoloz
15:50, 28 July 2006 (UTC)
User:MichaelCPrice/mega
Michael C. Price

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