User talk:Smasongarrison - Knowledge (XXG)

2899:(artists) is by far the best and no one has ever explained why it is not. Avoiding Engvar issues should be one of our considerations in such things. What we have n9w is categories that are grouping together people in two totally different professions that should not be. We need to consider what needs to be done in category names to make them adequately usable. I also do not think this name really meets common name use. Especially in present works. My sense from reading recent obituaries of artists who draw is that draughtsman/draftsman is not the current term for them. No one has really explained why drawing artist is a bad term, and people just ignore my suggestion for drawer (artist). Knowledge (XXG) should use terms that will be familiar and clear to reads, and unambiguous. This is why we have a whole tree using "writer", although "author" is a far more common term. The problem is "author" has an at times unclear limit, does it cover all writers, or only a sub-set, such as maybe totally excluding screenwriters and essayists. Also "author" is often used for people we would not call writers. However never as an occupational description, more as a statement of what thry do. Draftsman has six definitions. So at a minimum if we keep draftsman we absolute need to disambiguation the term so people stopped butting in drafters and other people who are not drawers (artists). It would be most helpful if drawer was a term. Basically everywhere else we use the most common term for singers, painters, writers, etc. We do not say "vocal performers" or any other term, and we do not call the other "authors", although that is the far, far more common term. The problem is that as I outlined above drawer is an ambiguous term. So we have to in dome way disambiguation it. We disambiguate publishers (people) and a few other occupations so that is doable. "Artists notable for their drawings" is the worst idea ever. We do not have "Artists notable for their paintings" etc. We just have a convention that we only put people in categories for which it is defining. This applies to those who paint, sculpt, draw, write, illustrate, sing, dance, juggle, act, drum, and so on. The issue is that unlike painter, sculptor, writer, illustrator, singer, dancer, juggler, actor, drummer and many other terms drawer has multiple other meanings and so we cannot assume that we can have a category for it. 483:

not exactly the same thing at any given time (I would argue there are no German nationals outside the HRE structure in 1790, ethnic German subjects of the Kingdom of Prussia and Denmark-Norway who live beyond the boundaries of the HRE in 1790 are ethnic Germans who are not nationals of a Germany, because the only Germany for them to be nationals is the Holy Roman Empire of the German Nation), true it is hard to call people from Brussels in 1790 "German", but there are also lots of people who lived at times in the Netherlands who would not ever be called "Dutch", which may means we should rename "Dutch artists" to "Artists from the Netherlands", but does not mean we should create a "Dutch artists" cat, place all artists who call themselves Dutch in it, and then create a new "artists from the Netherlands" cat, and place all those Dutch artists in it, as well as Frisians, and also Flemish and Walloon artists active in the Netherlands in the 1815-1830 time frame. We should choose one or the other not both. Now if we went with "Artists from the Netherlands" we maybe should then create "Artists from the Dutch Republic" as a distinct category, but we should not place all artists seen as Dutch (as opposed to Frisian, etc.) in that category, and in the Dutch artists category. For the same reasons we do not have "white American writers" or "American writers of European descent" as a sister category to "African-American writers". We should not have a schema where the vast majority of people in a place get in two categories automatically, and we should not have 2 categories that have very close to the same contents and scope.

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avoid using a term that ends in that way. In fact this may be the only Category where a term ends in -men and is not actually gender specific. Fisherman are called fishers, businessmen, which at one point was so unmbiquitous is businesspeople unless we have specific men, policemen, firemen, postman and so on we avoid using. The best term is actually drawers. The problem is that is the same word used for A-parts of a dresser, cabinet or desk, b-an item of clothing and c-people who take water out of a well. So even Drawers (people) would be potentially ambiguous. The best we could do is drawers (artists) which might be better than the current name. C. Even if we ignore that draughtsman is both ambiguous and potentially excluding some of the content, we have the issue that in the US and some other places that use English the preferred spelling is draftsman. Lastly having looked at the sources "draughtsman" or "draftsman" is also not always how these people are described. Many reliable sources just say the person was an artist and mention that thry had notable drawings without ever trying to use a word to say what they were doing. Either "drawing artist" or "Drawers (artists)" is about the best we can do. Either will be far clearer and less ambiguous than the target.

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actual thing that makes them as a group distinct from artists who are not designers. However I think this would mean that we should not have any designer categories, and we should put the various designer categories directly in the artists categories, in all cases, not just for women designers. I would think this would also mean that all articles currently in a "designers" category should be moved up to an artist category until we can justify a specific type of designer category. So we might have a person in "fashion designers" and then in "Tongan artists", "Ghanaian artists" etc. in cases were there are not enough fashion designers from that country to justify its own subcat. This looks to me like an issue with the whole tree though, and not just the women cat, so I am thinking we should solve it at the whole tree level.

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refused to communicate even when they were brought to ANI. In that case, the problem was with some stub articles they were creating which is what they used to do before them moved on to categories. Any way, for me, this was definitely a surprise as because of the work I do tagging empty categories, I used to follow their editing pretty closely.

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actually understand what your concern is. (Also assuming that I'm not thinking... also not effective at getting me to lay out my reasoning.) To be clear, I'm telling you this because I respect your knowledge and expertise in this domain, and my hope is that this conversation will help us both efficiently and effectively improve the project.

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slightly ealier often becoming smaller and smaller states. There may have been a title that could be rendered Duke of the Holy Roman Empire in English but it is not clear all people who held the title of Duke in the Holy Roman Empire could be called Duke of the Holy Roman Empire. The in category is accurate, so I think we should go with it.

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The common name rule means we should consider how words are actually used by people actually using them. It is clear from this source that "drawer" and "drawing artist" are actual words people use to describe, well, drawing artists. It is clear that there is not a default belief among people actually

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There are currently 27 1 article sub-categories of Ambassadors of France (there are others at 2, this is just 1 article sub-cats). There are 6 articles directly in the category, so we have not actually made Ambassadors of France a container category. Ambassadors are not default notable, they only get

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a Czech diplomat is emblematic of the craziness of this situation. He is in 15 ambassador categories, 12 of them he is the only article in. He had 2 appointments where he was simultaneously Czech ambassador to 5 or more countries. It is not clear from the article he ever did much at all with some of

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is in 4 Ambassador categories. He is the only person in any of the 4 categories. In the case of Slovak Ambassadors to Serbia and Montenegro, since that country only existed 3 years he may be the only person who ever held that position. Under Ambassadors from the Ivory Coast there are 5 or more empty

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is the only biogrsphicak article in the Dukes of Saxe-Eisenberg category. I think we should either delete that category or upmerge in to Dukes of the Holy Roman Empire. The later we should also probably rename to Dukes in the Holy Roman Empire. They were Dukes of specific, by the 17th-century if not

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It is like shooting fish in a barrel. Basically any country has multiple 1 article ambassadors from categories and multiple 1 article ambassadors to categories. Well except South Ossetia where there is only 1 article currently categorized as someone who was an ambassador there, but he simultaneously

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Ok that's helpful for you to lay out your thinking. Thank you. I'm not sure that I agree that, by definition, someone who is notable as an artisan is probably not an artisan. My take is more that if someone is regularly described as a artisan, they're probably an artisan. However, if they're notable

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Hi Liz! Yes, I did notice that DNE got blocked. I have mixed feelings about it. On the one hand, a chunk of their category creation was good, but on the other hand, they were not engaging with editor concerns, not explaining their reasoning, and not altering their behavior based on the concerns for

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I would not remove the categories of the people I made because they have many districts that are tied to them. Also many of them were present in their constituencies for a record number of time spent and have numerous dates and places named after them. Some of them also put forward and co-sponsored

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If that is all you can find, it goes rather effectively to disprove your point! All three uses are from manuals, and grammatically "drawing artist" refers to "the artist who is in the process of drawing", rather than an "artist who is known for drawing", which is what we need a category for. There

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I've rarely had success communicating with an IP editor on a User talk page and DinosaursLoveExistence has never responded to any messages on their User talk page that I've left, neither templates nor personal messages. They have been editing like this for years and years without engaging even when

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Genuinely, I don't know how to respond to this. Enamellers seems to be nested under both artists and artisans. Would you care to explain why it shouldn't be nested under both? Ideally, in a constructive way? I'm open to feedback, but I'd prefer it be constructive rather than your typical MO of just

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has a point regarding the bigger issue. Most folks consider German to be a defining category for those centuries. Even if you don't agree with it, you're well aware that most folks consider them "German". It doesn't look good when you only make a tiny change, like moving to a different category but

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Thank you for bringing some of the categories created by DinosaursLoveExistence to CFD. This editor has been driving me a little crazy for years now. They typically show up, once a month, create dozens and dozens of empty categories over the course of a day, on a wide range of subjects, I tag them

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It appears that most HRE cats are not under the German cats. However I think overlap cat applies here. I think this is similar to why we do not put people in both German-language singers (or writers) categories and German singers or writers categories. Even if we accept that German and the HRE are

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asking for interpretation/sanity check on the policy as well as guidance on if we need a CFD on the topic. I'd probably also to point to the recent conversations (including this one). Like to me that seems to be an easy/low stakes approach to get more eyes on the issue, and more wisdom on the path

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Thanks for the encouragement/sanity check. I think that the path of least resistance might be for you to initiate a CFD for the parenting of sportsplayers and other occupations. I don't think I would be an effective medium given my brief history with them, but I'm happy to take a strong supporting

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Sure thing. They might be more open-minded to you because you didn't mistake them for a different editor at the beginning of the exchange. But as you can see from the exchange, there was no point for me to explain how removing people from the full people from tree could be problematic. They have a

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Did you notice that Dinosaurs got indefinitely blocked? They had been editing here since 2005, despite their eccentricities, I never thought this would happen. I think that most of their activity was productive as they created a lot of categories that are still in use, their problem was that they

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you will find there are 6 different occupations that are covered there. The current draughtsman tree is at least to some extent merging the Drawing artist and the drafter terms and has some people who are both. That is only the first problem. The second is that the term ends in -men. We generally

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This category has 20 1 article sub-cats. Since Yugoslavia has not existed for over 20 years these categories seem even less likely to grow than some others. I think this is a really good place to start upmerging. The number of categories with just 1 article we have here is staggering. It probably

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The parenting tree you've laid out here makes sense to me. Thanks for laying it out. My immediate inclination would be to have decorative artists parented by both artisans and artists. However that parenting would be more reflective of the medium they're working in rather than the person/artistic

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A weak one perhaps. There is a relatively small number of artists for whom their production of very high quality drawings is properly defining, & I'm not convinced that the category system can't cope with this. There are also a number of less important artists whose sold work includes a high

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Hmmm.... ok, so I think I'm missing something because the template doesn't use LGBT in FOO like at all. The template shouldn't send anything to "LGBTQ" unless the category name includes LGBTQ. Can you point to a specific example of a page that redlinked, so I can try to understand what the issue

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Nobody LIKES the name; it has all the issues JPL sets out. But it IS the standard term in art history, & attempts to make wp the base for reforming the English language are doomed. I think I suggested "Artists notable for their drawings" in an earlier discussion, but that was not liked. The

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It looks to me like your objection is actually against the designers category. I would agree that it is not a good category, it is essentially grouping together stage designers, fashion designers and some other people just because they all happen to be called "designers" without there being any

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I just don't know what you expect to happen in this conversation. Calling an edit terrible, saying that the artisan tree is somehow new and that it's mine, as well as assuming that adding the label artisan category means that their work is less valuable. Like what's your goal with this comment?

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In nearly all these articles, excluding the few where you changed it recently, they were called German (lead section), all categories were for German, all sources call them German... but you remove the lead info, remove the categories, and then add your new cat incorrectly as a subcat of German

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There was a recent discussion of Category:Engravers from the Holy Roman Empire on my talk page. The other editor has A-removed this as a sub-cat of German engravers. B-decided to add everyone from that category back into German engravers, at least a sub-cat that that editor feels is in some way

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Generally, notable enamellers will be better just under artists. That probably goes for most of the people caught under "artisans" - carvers etc. If you really are just what can fairly be called an "artisan", you won't be notable, unless for success in building a large business, as with some

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My core point is that your approach here was extremely ineffective. I read your comment as making broad sweeping statements without substance in an attempt to get me to stop, without explaining what your concern actually was. I'm always open to feedback and reconsidering my view, but I need to

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This is not an issue of "liking". It is an issue of having a term that can be used to create a coherent category that groups people in a clear way. If the term was so overwhelmingly the only choice from art history that we had to use it, it would not be a disambiguation page. My term drawers

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Sure thing. I think DLE has made like 3 edits to people's talk pages. So I'm not optimistic on that front either. But at least now there's a record of linking the two together via the sock puppet investigation. Is blocking them from creating categories until they actually engage with editors

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Well, pursuading you to stop doing doing more along these lines, mainly. Cfds will I think have to follow. And more broadly, discouraging you from doing sweeping re-organizations of category schemes without much thought, or apparently looking at the articles concerned. The category concerned

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Hi, I saw your contribution to the page of the Cottage School and I'm wondering what your reasoning is for removing it from the special education in the US category after you moved it into that category from special education. I am a current student and can vouch for TCS' status as a special

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That category tree is a compromise. If you can convince JPL to stop removing people from german/austrian categories, without this level, I'm happy to reconsider my position. But it's existence, seems to allow the child categories, which are defining, to exist without large disruptions.

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The last proposal was to rename the category to drafters, and failed because most of the content are not drafters, but drawers (artists). The current category is grouping people in at least 2 different professions. At present it is a clear violation of the shared name

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Good suggestion! I imagine that you're probably right. It'll probably end up being parent categories rather than have many people directly in them. (My goal with filling out the artisan category, is to connect the incomplete stretches that have been floating around.)

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Two things. 1-I think we need to also upmerge to Kongo people. 2-I think we should rename that to People from the Kingdom of Kongo. This is probably the Kingdom in Africa, at least south of Egypt where we have the most potential from articles from the 15th-17th

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is in 9 different categories for Ambassadors from Denmark. Each has either 1 or 2 entries (I think he held multiple of these ambassadorships at once). I really think all 9 categories should be upmerged. I am not sure of all 9 appointments are mentioned in the

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the categories that were less than good. All of which are an important parts of wikipedia. My goal had been to get them to engage with the community. DNE is capable of responding on talk pages; they'd done it at least twice. I'd support unblocking them

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Ah alright! I asked because he has a lot to say about a lot. Like "no breaks in paragraphs" a lot! So I was surprised to learn they were banned. Well if he's getting better from their previous argumentative attitude, that's good! A lot of people don't.

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Hi Smasongarrison. I noticed that you're reverting my edits related to categories even though I had a clear yet unexplained reasons why I removed a category from each one. You should think things through before you revert a bunch of someone's edits.

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point related to burials, but I don't think faculty, alumni, and sportspeople would follow the same logic. Having members of a sports team in the category "sportspeople from FOO" would make it extremely easy to remove sportspeople who weren't local.

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was ambassafor to Russia and Armenia and is not clear he ever even visited South Ossetia. The fact that this scheme ends up including not just past countries but countries with limited diplomatic recognition makes it even more potentially large.

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The Drawing artists should not be merged to daughtsmen. That term is A-ambiguous, B-toiblesome because it ends in -men and c. Introduces an Emglish variation issue that could be solved by using a different term. If you look up the article

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onto the pages that use it, several of which were turned from existing bluelinked "LGBT in X" that exist to non-existing redlinked "LGBTQ in X" categories that don't exist. (For example, it prematurely moved several categories from

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anyway, making the whole exercise completely pointless: if you consider all HRE engravers to be German engravers (which you explicitly do by making the HRE cat a subcat of the German cat), then what was the point of moving them all

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You might try looking through the "artisan" categories to see how many people could neither really be called "artists" (decorative or otherwise) nor businesspeople, engineers etc. I expect there are some, but pehaps not too many.

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Ambassadors to the United States has only 1 sun-cat with 1 article (the to South Yemen cat) and 2 with 2 articles. However it has 70 direct articles. I do not know how many of those direct articles are examples of not proper

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Yep. LOQ is just not willing to have a civil conversation or wait until a discussion actually occurs. It's annoying indeed. There's no way to have a reasonable conversation if you approach an edit from "wrong" versus right.

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Oh I see, see I was confused by the removal from special education but I now see that it was just making it more specific, thanks for the clarification. Out of curiosity, how did you stumble upon The Cottage School's page?

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I'm afraid this is another category, and probably tree, we shouldn't have. Art history sources never group German, Italian, Netherlandish, Bohemian etc etc painters this way, & nor should we. Most should already be in

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FYI my take is that HRE should be a parent category for certain german centuries. My hope was that by adding HRE as a parent category JPL would be comfortable leaving the people defined as german in the german category.

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CSD C1 and then, over the course of the next week, IP editors from Nottingham, UK fill most of the empty categories up and I untag them all or Shellwood does. It's a really peculiar division of labor by this editor.

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who is in 6 ambassador catrgories, all of which have 1 or 2 articles. However because he was ambassador from 2 counties to 3 countries, all at the same time. So upmerging would place him in 5 categories instead of

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Now that the Prussian one closed the Ivory Coast might be a good place yo go next. I think there may be more sub-cats than there are total articles on ambassadors there because several had appointments to multiple

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This category has 2 1 article sub-cats. It also has about 9 direct biographical articles, so it is clearly not a place we insist on dispersing everything. I think these 2 categories (Piland and Portugal) should be

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Category:Luthiers from Genoa has 1 article. It is a person born in 1889, so not even actually a stand-in for Luthiers from the Republic of Genoa. I do not think we need a by city occupational category to hold one

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Yep, that's my understanding of what they interpret "from" to be. But that's not how defining works for cities/populated places. We'd have to remove pretty much every occupation from FOO subcategory if that held.

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for example, who banged out commissioned portrait drawings at a great rate. Rather inevitably, none of the four artists I've just mentioned have any drawing-related categories! What are the actual objections to

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I think a constructive comprise would be for you to diffuse by century WITHIN the German category (as in you add people to the FOOian century German engravers etc, and then add the relevant HRE parent category).

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over the fact the many of video games in this article weren't developed in France but it was reverted by another editor in the next edi a year after. Why would it be eligible to fit into that category ignoring

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Thanks for keeping me company and giving concrete advice during my (now overturned) perma-ban. That's certainly not something to simply expect from an editor as productive in the content arena as yourself.

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uses of the latter in the context of Native American/First Nations/Inuit art (from the previous discussion) but that doesn't justify a global category using the term. Try to find a source describing say

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I was trying to count all the 1 article ambassador categories. I got to 2300 some, and was at Mexico, but I lost count. There are over 3000 maybe over 4000, and that is ignoring all the 2 articles ones.

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Is there a case for not categorising artists by this medium at all? Just categorising them by the other media they worked in, and having them in "artists" categories if drawing was their only medium?

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The category Ambassadors of Ivort Coast only has 5 articles in the permanent Representatives to the UN category. Every other category has 2 or less articles. I think they should all be upmerged.

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Yeah, I did revert those changes because your reasons aren't reflective of how categorization works. For example, even though there are some multiple player modes for Tomb Raider Games, the

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articles of they meet GNG or are defsult notable for other reasons. So there is no reason to assume all these categories will grow in the future. So I think upmergimg these 27 would be wise.

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A category or categories you have created have been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the

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speaking and writing that "draftsman" is the correct term for this. It is even more clear that the claim that "drawing artist" was made up for use in Knowledge (XXG) is not true.

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You are welcome to express your opinion at the CFD, but you really really need to review how defining works because those things you have listed don't belong in the category.

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Will take it to the talk page tomorrow, as you helpfully suggest. Meanwhile, please let me soon if you are going to scour every one of my edits as it's nearly my bedtime. Ta.

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There are of course also people who are notable for something else entirely, like being a politician or writer, but whose CV included a period in an "artisan" occupation - eg

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there was a discussion about them on ANI. I'm not optimistic that CFD discussions will draw them out but who knows, maybe eventually we will hear from them. Thanks again.

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potters (who for some reason don't seem to be in the artisan tree at all). At various periods, for people like Stubbs, enamel painting was just another painting medium.

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these countries. People who were Ambassadors have in general been categorized as such, we have however set up a system with far too many narrow intersection categories.

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Thanks! Making me a list like this is extremely helpful! I'm going to check them out once I get a better sense of how the community feels about the first 3 I proposed.

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output themselves. Does that make sense? I'm happy to defer to the folks who know more about the content area, like yourselves. But I'd figure I'd lay out my thinking.

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however this just the name of a keyboard shortcut for hiding programs or whatever. It is not considered a video game-specific concept according to article, similar to

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Sure, you can definitely ask! You can probably also ask him. JPL's ban was before I become active in CFD, but from what I have gathered they were banned for repeated

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has caused templates that integrate it to generate a duplicate parameter error in other categories, which in turn has caused 12,254 categories to show up in the

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OK, drawer is an article on the part of a dresser, cabinet or desk. However at drawer (disambiguation) is has a line that says drawer is "someone who engages in

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categories work. If you thought that Video games by French companies was a better fit, you should have replaced that category instead of merely removing it.

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alternative is something using "graphics", but that is even more ambiguous. Many category names have unavoidably to make an ENGVAR choice; that is no issue.

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feature of the Tomb Raider franchise is that the games are single player. I've looked at your talk page and it's clear that this is a much larger problem.

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Oh, and when you know that these edits are opposed, then simply doing the same for a parallel cat (violinists instead of engravers) is very poor form.

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Thanks for the heads up on Lost on Quebec. I didn't realize they were hostile/uncompromising. Will be careful if I ever come across them afterwards.

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Sure thing! I'm just happy that diffusing by century seems to have struck the balance between Germany and the HRE that everyone can live with.

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Is there a policy regarding having only the wikidata commons link on a page? For example, your removal of an alternative link to Commons here:

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We appreciate that you have signed up to receive suggestions regularly; your contributions make Knowledge (XXG) better — thanks for helping!

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=Template:Occupation_by_nationality_and_century_category_header/nationality&oldid=1245330091

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still moving German people into HRE categories.( There are some categories that I don't agree with, but I still add people to them.)

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Ahhh ok, I see what you're confused by. So I was in the process of cleaning up several category trees. The page was and still is in "

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BTW, can I ask why JohnPackLambert was banned from Cfds? They told me they were a while back. I notice they were very active before.

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I don't know exactly what they are on about. I'm guess they think working in a place doesn't mean you're from that place, correct?

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Yep yep! I'd be extremely impressed, but regardless, I'm pleased enough that I've gotten to experience your more charming side 😁

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If they act up again, report them immediately. Their lack of control over reverts and unwillingness to compromise is a bit much.

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Sure thing! If you just guide a bit on how and where to start a parenting convo on occupation categories, I'll do so.

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Since the Pakistanumi computer budinesspeople has only 3 articles it would be probably best to upmerge that as well.

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Thanks for reporting. It gets annoying quickly when someone tries to force their own interpretation onto others.

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of the German cat in the first place? All you have achieved is incorrectly adding those HRE people who were

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Of course! So I'm thinking thru what I would do.... and I think I'd probably start with a post at

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by a French company however dozens of video games in this category were not developed in France.

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error category. Can you have a look ate the code you added please and clear the error. Thanks. -

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are terrible! Your new "artisans" category is a big mistake, which should be deleted. What about

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education school, and the school's mission statement and other materials reflects that as well.

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That's fair. "Likes" really doesn't convey the nuance of the issue/cfd. Thanks for chiming in!

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is not a great name. I tried to get it changed, but unfortunately other folks liked the name.

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for the artistic works, then they'd probably be under both. I need to think about it a bit.

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I'll take a crack at populating them once I finish working on the occupation template.

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Why did you remove The Cottage School from the category of Special Education in the US?

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You can find numerous linked resources on the warnings I gave you on your talk page.

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You take a draconian deletionist approach instead of trying to improve the project.

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Sigh, fyi, the reporting wasn't sufficient. It needs to effectively be 4 reverts.

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Fair enough. I do try to populate categories before I nominate them.

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I'm pretty sure I moved it into a more specific state category.

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