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Summary'. Below I give you some extra explanation. Most information comes from three interviews (Guadrian, Standard and HungerTV) related to her exhibition in the Salon Vert last September/October that has provided useful new information. Would you
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It is always mentioned that her farther is a civil engineer and her mother is a biochemist. This shows that her parents are intelligent. However, it seems unlikely that they would find jobs in those fields in New York, with an education in the fifties/sixties in China or Taiwan. The article in the
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In another article she mentions that she bougth this 7 years ago (2011-7 = ~2004) (I had included the reference). So, in
September 2011 she was not living with her brother anymore! And probably hadn't for quite some time. This is important because people get a strange impression when somebody lives
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Comment about who she's dating: I agree with you that it is not fully proven that she's dating Noam
Gottesman. On the other hand, is there proof that Ms. Liu is still dating McCormack? That are dozens of sites stating this, but I didn't come across a (recent) photograph of a remark in an interview
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I'm not trying to tell you what to do because I'm not really involved in this dispute. But you might want to be careful about making changes to other bios based on discussion at the
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You were a bit over-enthusiastic (the word rude crossed my mind) in removing the additions I have made. That's why the episode information disappeared. I have added it again so that it is easier to watch the right episode for people that are interested. Especially the
Hercules episode is really
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So, no proof they are dating, I agree. But they are at least well acquainted. All in all, it think it would be better to replace the word 'present' in the topic 'Partner' into a question mark. But maybe you're Will, or have some other recent proof that they are still dating.
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I haven't included this information on the Wiki page yet. But it could explain her fixation with spines. I read somewhere else that cause might have been that she had fallen of a horse and of her bicycle in the past.
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I have seen other series of rather recent photographs (2011) where she is with a guy that could be Zach Helm (whom she almost married). He divorced ~2 years ago. So, maybe they are back together. Who knows?
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I found a source that indicated it was Dina, and added it to the relevant passage. It also clarified the date of the communion party where he was involved in a fight with his brother-in-law. Thanks again.
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Don't you think that there should be a separate table about her art exhibitions? It seems that it means a great deal to Ms. Liu so it would do her justice.
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