User talk:Stepho-wrs - Knowledge (XXG)

392: 2834:. From the references you have supplied, I can verify that Ogura made a supercharger called the TX15P and that you have one. From this, I do not know if that supercharger was on your car (it is photographed not on the car). If it was on the car, I do not know if it was original to the car or added later. To give an example, I have an MX73 Cressida that originally had a 5M-GE engine, then a 6M-GE engine and now a 7M-GE engine. I could take a photo of the 7M-GE engines in the car but this is not proof that the MX7# series had a 7M-GE engine (FYI, South Africa had the MX75 with the 7M-GE engine but my country of Australia did not). So, unfortunately, that means that the information you inserted could not be verified and anecdotal information 2884:

Global NCAP, the protocols are used for a long time, so they suddenly become obsolete when a new version comes. ASEAN NCAP is very opaque, I understand it lies between (Euro NCAP, ANCAP) and Latin NCAP but I have no details. For the current ratings, it is attempted to clarify that they are actually obsolete by Global NCAP stating "based on Latin NCAP 2016" amd for Latin NCAP, "similar to Euro NCAP 2014". People are even more unaware of these facts, and the trade publications keep pumping Bharat and Global NCAP ratings as "safest cars in India" when it is possible that many luxury imports are made to European standards (some non-luxury Euro, Korean, or Japanese exports to Latam are subpar and unmasked by Latin NCAP).

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provide the volume/issue numbers or the issue date, along with the page number and article title. Or we provide a URL that goes directly to a web page that supports your fact. Instead, you have given me the bare minimum of clues and expect me to do hours of research to see if your facts are right or wrong. Double checking your facts via references should be the work of minutes, not hours. Obviously you know where you got your facts from. I ask that you tell us where you got them from, with enough details that we can check them in a simple manner without having to do hours of research ourselves. See

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Fellowship also hold a place. From Airbus, the A300, 320-200s,330neo and the 380 are my favourites.The British Concorde is unforgettable. Lockheeds like L-1011 TriStars and L-188 Electras are in my list. I also like McDonnell Douglas' DC-9, DC-10-30, MD-11, MD-80 Series and MD-90 Series. I also have a like for Russo-Soviet aircraft like Ilyushin Il-62 and Il-96, Tupelov Tu-134, Tu-154, Tu-204 and Tu-214 and Yakovlev Yak-42, Yak-82 and MC-21.

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higher engine RPM at a given speed. This causes a muddle when trying to decide whether to say that a gear ratio was "raised" or "lowered". I don't know about where you live, but it's common for enthusiasts in the U.S. to refer to a higher numeric gear ratio as a "shorter" gear and a lower numeric ratio as a "taller" or "longer" gear to make communications clear; however, I think this qualifies as

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unless they also include a reference to the time it was written. The part about infoblocks and tables seems to be an exception when space is limited (probably because there isn't room to include additional wording for when). I do not see anything that specifically ties MOS:TOPRESENT to only textual paragraphs and do not see anything about headings.

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On the back of each Cresta and Chaser brochure, they listed which Toyota dealership they were sold at. Vista store sold the Cresta and Auto Store sold the Chaser. This now makes sense because why would Toyota sell these two at the same location? Then later, Vista and Auto Store were combined as NETZ.

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Yeah, we have the same problem in Australia. Properly a diff ratio should be like 1:4.3 or 1/4.3 but most magazines just put 4.3 and leave it to the reader to know what taller/shorter/higher/lower means. Australian magazines use the terminology from both the UK and US, so we get all the combinations.

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Hey, just a note re: production end date. Technically the article is incorrect citing December 1993, though understandable. Chassis(assembly line) production did indeed end in December 1993 but 964 models continued to be produced by Porsche at Werk 1, location of the Porsche Exclusive Manufaktur and

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You must have seen all-time fav aircraft being the Boeing 747. Since I was a child, I had fascination in the aircraft. I first flew in it with TWA in 1987. After that, I flew in it at least 5-6 times. And the most recent one was in 2022, when I rode with Lufthansa, and their blend of classic seating

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I added the information about the Ogura supercharger TX15P to the Mark X page. While there is no "physical" evidence that Ogura Clutch manufactured this model for Toyota, the only information we have as the general public - is that the model number itself is the one imprinted on the supercharger for

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Sorry that I’ve copied something on a page because it was hard and I tried editing something on the type 2 page but it was hard and I won’t try to copy again, thanks for the advice you gave me, even though I’m not trying to vandalise the page, I’m trying to fix mistakes on wiki pages, because I have

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page, I added a U.S. template and two categories since the article states that the company's headquarters is based in the U.S. However, a user named "Infinty 0" reverted my edits. When I asked them on their talk page to explain what they mean by "Not a U.S. based manufacturer" and I game my example.

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Hi! The purpose of the nbsp is not make sure that the number (1.33) and the unit (L) are not separated by a line break. However, when they are at the beginning of a line they will never be separated. Therefore, the nbsp serves no purpose and makes the wiki mark-up harder to read. So, in this case it

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Yeah, I've notice that he seems to be following my edits. In general, his edits have been good. And he pays attention to the corrections I've made to his edits (mostly formatting). He is a bit, shall we say, enthusiastic about deleting unreferenced material. Hard to criticise him when this stuff has

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In such a case it might have been an error to add such pieces of information, as it would be a good thing that information is confirmed by other sources. This is because with those new things, the media do not always use the exact right words and confusion may occur. I will let native speakers write

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The captioned photo of URANUS that I added to the Wiki page is gone. Later applications of Mecanum-style wheels are depicted (including one from a 2019-2020 student project). Would you say that a photo of the first (or the earliest documented example) of a Mecanum wheeled robot is appropriate for

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I've been making a spreadsheet for over a decade with every car company I can find that has ever existed. My car book collection is so vast that it's broken the shelf on the bookcase, so I can't retrieve son on the lower shelf. (To me, that's still a proud problem to have) I'm fascinated by who was

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What I mean is that it is the responsibility of the editor adding the fact to also provide a reference to directly back up that fact and that reference should go directly to the supporting evidence. Eg, when we use a book for a reference we also supply the page number. When we use a journal then we

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1. Where in the MOS, or elsewhere, is there specific guidance on not breaking the pattern in a list or "jarring the reader" the way you are describing, and how does that apply specifically w/r/t MOS:TOPRESENT, especially if contradictory? In other words, does not breaking a pattern across headings,

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I remember the Maharaja grand interiors inside the jumbo. Additionally, I got a spot for t-tails like the Boeing 717 and McDonnell Douglas MD-80 Series. For regional flyers, I'll go for the Cessna 208B Caravan. From good ol' Boeing, I have the spot for the 747, 767 and 777. Fokkers like Friend and

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In reviewing the Mecanum Wheel Wiki page, I note your comment: "00:38, 10 July 2022‎ Stepho-wrs ... Uranus might well be the first mecanum wheel robot but you need to provide a reference that says it is the first." The reference is number Podnar, Gregg W. (1985). "The URANUS Mobile Robot" (PDF)

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Beginning in the late 1970s, the tech race was on. Every five years, they changed each platform, and installed the tech in each class of car, from the Crown all the way to the Starlet. I research on Japanese Knowledge (XXG) and add it to the English side. If my formatting isn't "proper", it's not

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My contributions are a result of my mechanic's curiosity, and I research from articles why something was added or introduced, also known as "root cause" and where it led to. With Toyota, who built their engineering reputation on what is called "The Five Whys" it is pervasive in everything they've

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When looking at the text it is not immediately obvious to the reader that a rating is obsolete or when it was obsoleted. Many people quote "5 stars" without caring about when the rating was given. I take as obsolete Euro NCAP ratings everything they dump in the "Pre" category. For Latin NCAP and

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didn’t add sources on a lot of his edits for some reason). Left guide substantially removed the important markets, retaining only the Chinese and South East Asian markets. Additionally, he changed the lead photo, and after all of the removing, the page showcased one single image representing the

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The tables and infoboxes language in the MOS says that "pres." can be used when space is limited (with the example "1982-pres."). But the essence of MOS:TOPRESENT is to remove ambiguity. That plus MOS:DATED combined essentially say that terms like now, currently, present, etc. should not be used

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Actually, my opinion is the exact opposite. Have things lined up and each image within its section looks far more professional. Having images creeping into the wrong section or creeping halfway across section titles makes it look amateurish and makes it far harder to relate to each image. Also,

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I find that there's a lot of confusion in the non-enthusiast public about how to define a "higher" vs "lower" gear, because it's customary to refer to first or second gear as "low" gear, while fourth or fifth is "high" gear; however, a "low" gear in this context has a higher numeric ratio and a

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There are earlier omni-directional mobile robots, but none using Mecanum wheels. May I suggest, that the first Robotics Institute in the world, founded by Carnegie Mellon University, and its Mobile Robot Lab, in which many early mobile robots were developed, was first to build and report on an

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While I agree with removing many of these, I think that the Carina/Caldina hatnote makes some sense, especially because they look near identical - the Caldina is actually the exact same car as the Carina E Estate. Also, the katakana is even more similar - Karudina v Karina. Would you mind if I

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3445 cc rounds to 3.4 L, not 3.5 L. The name of the engine is not always a true indication of its capacity. Toyota gave it a name that implies it is 3.5 L and markets it as a 3.5 L but it is in fact a 3.4 L. Marketing and facts do not always agree and Knowledge (XXG) always aligns with facts.

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Oops, a mistake on my part. I saw the defunct brands you listed in the "current" section (they belong in the "former" section) and did a revert. I didn't notice the many other good changes you made. I will undo my revert but you do need to shift the defunct brands out of the current section.

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The info that I added to Knowledge (XXG) not only for the Carina ED, but also Celica and other cars are from the brochures / catalogs. I do have some JDM Toyota catalogs of the 1990s. I know there is / was a Russian website who scanned some JDM catalogs, but didn't remember the address.

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I still think it's a good idea to look an article through and give a thought to what it is about. Some words can also have a wider meaning in some places or contexts than the one the article is about – for example this word in the American sense of any railway waggon or coach.

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2. Where in the MOS does it say that MOS:TOPRESENT (or MOS:DATED or others) only applies to text paragraphs, and, as you've said here, allows other parts in the article (e.g., headings) to differ, beyond what it says about infoblocks and tables? I have already asked you this

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Sorry that I was harsh on you but WP lives and dies by its references. Anything without a reference must be considered as being unreliable. And the references must be in a place that can be checked in years to come, so they are usually done inline in the text and put inside

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Sonderwunsch program (aka Special Request or Special Wish department) through April, 1994 with at least one car not completed until September, 1994. There are multiple sources for this information including Porsche itself, PCA, and articles such as this one by MotorTrend:

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I've got a soft spot for the 777. Probably because it was new when I started flying a lot. Also, a Cathay Pacific training pilot taught me how to barrel roll it on their full-motion flight sim in Hong Kong. Also like the Comet, 707, B-17 and SR-71. Purely subjective of

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They basically said the company is just R&D and never made a car in the U.S. and the article is about Seres and not SF Motors. Even though the article mentions (formally SF Motors). Therefore, they don't think it gets the template and categories I've added.

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be disallowed. This is because when Knowledge (XXG) started it was almost all anecdotal information and the reliability of it was awful. People inserted all sorts of half truths, misconceptions, myths, rumours and sometimes deliberate lies as though they were

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I see that you reverted an edit I made on the Tesla Inc. article and wanted to ask you about it. I changed "2019-present" to "Since 2019" and you commented in the reversion that MOS:TOPRESENT is for textual paragraphs, not applicable for infoboxes. . ."

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The rule was made because some US editors would change an article to be US dates, spelling and categories. Then some Brits would change it to British. Then the US editors would change it yet again. And so on, with both sides getting angrier and angrier.

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is missing a number of things, including the Celica brochures. I was looking to see which colors Toyota used on the 1979 Celica in Australia - perhaps you can help, or perhaps even send the brochure scans to Banpei so that they could update? Thanks,

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A graduate student in our lab, Patrick Muir, earned his PhD in part from his seminal work (widely cited by others) on modeling and controlling mobile robot vehicles including Mecanum wheeled robots using the URANUS mobile robot as the example.

1570:(which is forbidden by policy), since there have been no sources in this article that verify the existence of an Australian version of this vehicle”. This is not a consistent rationale. Many, many automotive Knowledge (XXG) articles, such as the 1860:

The YouTube video from 1990 says 1240 mm, so that also checks out. Beware that YouTube videos by random contributors are often seen as unreliable. But videos like this that are actually proper, professional productions (eg, old TV programs) are

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Each to their own. If you think huge patches of whitespace in the article look good then so be it (not so much a problem on phones, but certainly a problem on monitors). I'm not getting into a edit war over it. But personally, I loathe them. --

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If I give a source of information, and if one only rely on a single source of information I give, and if this source is ill-written, or poorly reflecting reality, or reflect a local view, I wonder which kind of verification the process

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As such sentence is suggested by both Dutch and British authorities, might be googled with site:gov.uk and site:rdl.nl. Might be site:sec.gov would have some sentence on the "first binding international regulation on “Level 3” vehicle

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2.(rail transport) A powered single railway vehicle designed for passenger transport, with a driver's cab in both ends; Not to be confused with motor coach/motorcar, which is a powered railway vehicle capable to haul a train. …

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So technically the heading should have "1994" not "1993" similar to the heading for the 964 Turbo, which already correctly says "1994" as some of those cars were completed by Sonderwunsch in calendar year 1994 as well.

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Thanks. I'm more interested in MOS:TOPRESENT generally than with this article specifically, so this thread doesn't really belong on the talk page for this article. But you're welcome to post it there, if you find that

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Apologies - I was a bit grumpy. I do appreciate the information you bring in. The occasional mistake (eg Corona hardtop) doesn't really bother me - I make occasional mistakes too. I'm just a bit OCD about formatting.

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The problem with adding {{clear}} is that it makes articles look messy and amateurish rather than professional and encyclopaedic. Which, to my mind, is far more important than matching up endless images with text. --

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We are not going to find physical proof that Ogura Clutch did this because this is a B2B commercial piece of private technical information that was never, and probably will never be released to the general public.

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This is the Mobile Robot Lab report from 1985. While we do not use the words "first", our lab received the first Mecanum wheels as used for research provided from Ilon (who was not allowing any outside use).

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It is somewhat irritating. The Camry (XV30) page was significantly worsened by Left guide until I spent hours looking for sources, most of which were pretty poor quality, that were for some reason absent before

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How do you propose this information be "verified with references" then? Or is such anecdotal information going to be disallowed simply because there isn't any publicly-available information ever present?

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have strong ties to any other country. I'm not familiar with the company but a quick read of the introduction says it is Chinese, not American. Therefore US templates and categories are not appropriate.

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factory repair manuals that mention the TX15P (or at least the Ogura name for the supercharger). I have lots of factory repair manuals for older cars that I bought from places like Ebay or downloaded.

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As I've been translating from this website for the Chaser, Carina ED, Corona EXiV and soon to be Cresta, I found someone uploaded the link to the Crown, and found "the mother lode" for the Crown.

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I changed the 3.4 to a 3.5 due to the V35A engine nomenclature. 3.5 (3445cc) is correct, but look at the engine code nomenclature, if you write 3.4 it means the correct engine code is V34A.

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is the US subsidiary, but it is merely a redirect that points back to the same article. However, you can put SF Motors into a US category by putting the redirect into a category. Just edit

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Beware that the Mark Dorman page refers to Knowledge (XXG). We need to be careful that he hasn't sourced height information from WP because that becomes WP acting as its own reference. See

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An undated Australian brochure for a mid-generation SW20 update lists it as 1235 mm and specifically says it got suspension updates with more negative camber front and rear to drop it 5 mm.

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global Camry, and that is the image on the left. After he removed all of the markets, he changed the lead picture. His edit summary was “swapping out image selection that was based on

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Why does the number of decimals change anything? All the engine capacities are at the start of new lines, therefore the number and the unit will never be separated by a line break.

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Local time is UTC+8 in Western Australia (we get sunrise 8 hours before the UK and 12-16 hours ahead of North America). Please have that in mind if leaving time-sensitive comments.

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bought by who, what reminiscences still pop up every now and then. (When Jeep came out with the "Overland" trim, the whole history of Jeep/Willys/American Bantam, flooded back.

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I see what you are saying about the pattern being broken, but I don't understand what that means from a Knowledge (XXG) orthographic standpoint. So, some natural questions are:

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I don't agree with your reversion unless there is more that you can provide in reference. Please let me know your thoughts on this as I see a lot of "-present" out there .

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No problem. Knowledge (XXG) can be hard to work out all the rules and even us old hands get it wrong sometimes. Your enthusiasm is welcome. Perhaps try doing the link as

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The format of each is perfectly matched. To change the last one to "Global expansion and Model Y (since 2019)" breaks the pattern and jars the reader for no good reason.

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That's fine. The two decimals of 1.33 shouldn't insert the nbsp (non-breaking space), but the one decimal like 1.3 is allowed to insert the nbsp (non-breaking space).

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Yep, every model on that site has 1 brochure per generation - usually for the Japanese market. Of course, there were far more brochures printed than those ones (eg

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Um sorry it wasn't TWA the first airline I rode with the B747, before that I rode on an Air India 747 in 1986. May God bless the Indian 747s in the boneyard.

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For Japan, might be site:sec.gov would have some sentence on the January 2021, MLIT adoption of UN R157, which regulates automated lane keep systems (ALKS).

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I can appreciate the engineering in the 747 but somehow I always wound up on older models with outdated and worn interiors. Just a personal thing I guess.

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omni-directional robot built with Mecanum wheels. In the four decades since I designed URANUS, I have never found any earlier report of such a robot.

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I just browsed your banpei website, and found RWD Celica model codes list which I think from Toyota parts catalogs like I have for the 5th gen Celica.

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nbsp is not needed for the start of each new line in an infobox or table but nbsp is still good in many other places. Thank you for your contribution.

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Looking at the short list of editors that you have pointed this out to, you could easily be accused of canvassing. I suggest you make the same post at

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You have changed my mind. Can I ask that you update the 964 article infobox too, with appropriate references. It's the inconsistency that bothers me.

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I have seen your reverted edit on Automated lane keeping systems/Automated Lane Keeping Systems due to assumed vague (and unverifiable) references.

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It's always difficult to provide evidence something doesn't exist, but here are some online dictionaries from which the meaning "tram" is absent:

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Hmm, I'd seen the dealer logos at the back of the JDM brochures but never stopped to think about their significance for exclusive models. Thanks.

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I only went through their past couple pages of contributions looking for editors they've recently reverted, but I'll do that as well, thanks. --

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has been nominated for a good article reassessment. If you are interested in the discussion, please participate by adding your comments to the

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has been nominated for possible deletion, merging, or renaming. A discussion is taking place to decide whether this proposal complies with the

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Don't know neither if legalization is the right word nor if it matches the US case, as the US may work differently than Europe, Japan and Korea

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That's okay, we each have our own opinions. Personally, I loathe random things that don't line up nicely. As you said, each to their own.

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page, which had not been modified for two weeks, about six hours after my edit, he came, looked at any unsourced content, and removed it.

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Thanks for pointing out the banpei site to me. I'm flattered that they think my site (which my ISP had terminated) is worth preserving.

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The reason for the lowered height for 93+ model year cars was that Toyota lowered the car during the Rev2 suspension geometry changes.

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I've saw on YouTube that Toyota Crown was imported to the Philippines Do you think that price is Php 5.6 mil, a Flagship VIP Sedan

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applies to text paragraphs. It allows other parts to differ. In this case, we have a number of related section headings that say:

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and similar were implemented to cut back on the edit warring. It has been mostly successful and no better method has been found.

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To messages left on my talk page, I respond on my talk page. If you are responding to a conversation I started on your talkpage,

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that would make little sense to the uninitiated, and I'm not sure it's universal throughout the English-speaking world either.

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This is not an encyclopedia article or the talk page for an encyclopedia article. If you find this page on any site other than

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magazine articles or books that explicitly mention the TX15P supercharger (or at least say that it has an Ogura supercharger).

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has it in for you - not only are they gutting all Toyota articles you worked upon, but they also did a bunch of edits to

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Hello, I was wondering if there are any rules/guidelines for what counts as getting templates and categories. On the

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Sound like a weird rule that a company needs strong ties. But alright, I guess I'll leave it alone then, thanks.

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done, and are currently doing, including why they are the international "gold standard" for hybrid technology.

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3. I really hate to have to ask this one this way, but is what you are saying just your opinion or a preference?

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If you think I wrongly reverted your scripted changes to the reference date format then please read the RFC at

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Never got to go with Air India. I hear good things about them but they don't do the routes I tend to travel.

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Even though the term has a much wider meaning in the USA, Merriam-Webster does not include "streetcar" in it:

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I may agree the sentence might be limited to a UNECE/European view/context and may not need to be in the Lead

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A Nov 1992 Japanese brochure lists the MR2 height as 1235 mm. Note: Nov 1992 matches the US 1993 model year.

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https://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/vehicle_lineage/car/id60012868A/index.html

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https://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/vehicle_lineage/car/id60005913/index.html

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https://www.toyota-global.com/company/history_of_toyota/75years/vehicle_lineage/car/id60004580/index.html

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Stepho-wrs, I have started a discussion at AN/I regarding Antares600's disruptive editing. The thread is

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guidelines. If you would like to participate in the discussion, you are invited to add your comments at

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The singular image that remained, chosen by the individual in question, that represented the global

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It may take a few minutes from the time the email is sent for it to show up in your inbox. You can

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https://web.archive.org/web/20230710220854/http://members.iinet.net.au/~stepho/brochures/Cressida/

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Randolph WAS purchased by William Durant in 1909. He sold it back to the original owners in 1911.

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page uses Vauxford’s UK taken picture, even though the UK market isn’t mentioned in the article

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I recently was finally able to purchase the Beaulieu Encyclopedia of Automobiles, Vol 1 &2.

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I do not understand your question. Be aware that Knowledge (XXG) does not list prices - see

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a passenger-carrying railway vehicle consisting of a single coach with its own power unit"

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An undated Australian brochure for the SW20 intro (assuming mid 1989) lists it as 1240 mm.

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Hi, I'm somewhat new to wikipedia so if my sources didn't go through, I have links here.

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sales brochures that mention the TX15P (or at least the Ogura name for the supercharger).

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press releases that mention the TX15P (or at least the Ogura name for the supercharger).

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is best to use a simple space. In other circumstances, the nbsp is needed but not here.

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Anything along those lines from a reliable source (ie, not web forums) would be good.

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I did have to buy access to that scan via a small $ 2 donation, just so you know.

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Mercedes is the first car manufacturer to implement such system in Germany, Europe.

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https://markdormangarage.wordpress.com/2010/02/15/mr2-sw20-technical-information/

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All messages on my talk page are archived once the page gets uncomfortably large.

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However, if you disagree with me then please feel free to raise the question at

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Toyota website with 1st through 11th generation PDF scanned JDM brochures found

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which I agree can be good from a readership standpoint, override MOS:TOPRESENT?

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It appears that his focus is not solely directed at Stepho. When I edited the

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Please, find hereunder few pieces of information to help you in that sense:

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I agree, this means that it would be possible to add URLs and more details.

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I hope that this kitten will make your moments as Wikipedian more happy :)

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Understandable. I will not insert nbsp (non-breaking space) again. Thanks!

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https://www.motortrend.com/features/epcp-1010-1994-porsche-964-speedster/

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Please do not remove/revert things here, as I like to archive everything.

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linking to a page that shows there is no third meaning behind a paywall:

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Here's the Crown Eight, and now we can add a reference to this section.

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describes the Committee's roles and responsibilities in greater detail.

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are allowed to vote. Users with alternate accounts may only vote once.

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knowledge on vehicles and trying to fix things correctly not wrongly.

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I have noticed a string of highly problematic edits by user Carmaker1:

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https://en.wikipedia.org/search/?title=SF_Motors_Inc.&redirect=no

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The last body style will be released on June 6 in USA and 7 in Japan

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I just found on the same Toyota website every Mark II brochure too.

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Can you please name your favourite (fav) aircraft and fav airline?

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Contemporary US Toyota brochures also listed the height as 48.8in.

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However, if we still disagree then I am happy to have it raised at

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https://www.oed.com/search/dictionary/?scope=Entries&q=railcar

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Sorry for the late reply, I got a bit distracted by other things.

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Metric conversions are: 1,235 mm (48.6 in) and 1,240 mm (48.8 in)

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1982–1985 LiteAce van with biskut kacang hub cap (YM21; facelift)

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1982–1985 LiteAce van with biskut kacang hub cap (YM21; facelift)

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Dear Stepho, Your carefulness in updating pages is appreciated.

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Both Yellow companies were part of the GM Coach Division (GMC)

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If you wish to participate in the 2023 election, please review

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is now open until 23:59 (UTC) on Monday, 11 December 2023. All

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been there for years with references, even though the info is

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Always liked Malaysian Airlines - flew them a lot 1992-2010.

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I was curious, so I looked up some info from my own archives.

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Let's search for level 3, Nevada, (or California), Mercedes.

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Hello, Stepho-wrs. Please check your email; you've got mail!

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3. (Only in Canada and US) Any unpowered railway vehicle …"

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I don't mind helping you learn, feel free to ask questions.

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at any time by removing the {{Talkback}} or {{Tb}} template.

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without the {{clear}}'s, the article suffers even more from

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I own one of these vehicles - that is why I made the edit.

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the US, the UK and Japan are considering ALKS legalization

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User_talk:Trigenibinion#What_does_obsolete_protocol_mean?

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Hi! Knowledge (XXG) requires facts to be verifiable (see

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Knowledge (XXG) lives and dies by its references, as per

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Hi Stepho; I was dismayed to see that your page is down.

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To progress, we need better references. These could be:

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I disagree but I will answer on the article talk page.

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is the panel of editors responsible for conducting the

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Knowledge (XXG) talk:Manual of Style/Dates and numbers

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Talk:Tesla Model S#RfC about date format in references

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and re-add it, please do so. You can have a look at

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Message added 12:24, 28 February 2024 (UTC). You can

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For the UK, information may be available on Internet

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Pure verifiable fact, without any kind of ambiguity

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Pure verifiable fact, without any kind of ambiguity

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