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interested I'll try and dig it out - I do remember it was somewhere odd) and of course before RevDel we didn't really have much choice. Since RevDel was implemented obvious and serious copyvios have been RevDel'd at the discretion of administrators. Things like how likely it was to be re-introduced was also considered. As with most uses of RevDels people started off by being cautious so as to find out the community's limit. More recently I have seen nearly all copyvios deleted and this is what I've started doing myself. The only example from the last month or so I can think of where I've left the text is where I removed text because I thought it was highly probable, rather than certain, it was a copyvio as I didn't feel happy RevDeling under the RD1 criteria.
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synonymys your doing your list the authority as whoever did the combination or spelling your mentioning. Cannot do that the only authority of a name is the original describer. The others are reviewers and should be written differently. Also in nomenclature a synonym means that the name refers to the same taxon, not that it has the same meaning. Cheers,
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Um, okay. But then can you explain why "Pinta Island tortoise" has been the primary name, used as the common name at the beginning of the article and in the infobox, for quite a long time? Was that just made up? And, why do media reports of this event refer to a "Pinta tortoise" or something close to
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it is kind of still technically an EP. I mean the original is less than 25 minutes, but then... it has 8 tracks - at least 5 of those can be considered 'full-length' tracks and not just interludes. I originally did use the terminology "EP" to describe the album but decided to go with mini-album since
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That being said, I don't particularly care if you move the article back, but I want to reiterate that you're going after the wrong person here. The article was written as if "Pinta Island tortoise" was the primary name, and it's been that way for awhile. I just matched the title with how the article
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The species name is the lower case last part and is independent of the genus name. So when doing a synonymy you have to do one for each level. In a species synonymy the genus names are put in for clarity but have no bearing on wether or not two names are a synonym. Using the one I commented on as an
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can be used to request revdel. At the moment this isn't much used - I'm not sure whether it's because people don't want to or know how to deal with copyvios or because the copyvio instructions aren't very good (and probably a bit outdated). I suspect it's probably a bit of both. Those of us that
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is really for the more difficult copyvio cases. Examples include ones where there's a reasonable possibility of permission and ones where the person who spotted it isn't sure how to proceed, perhaps because they're not sure it's actually a copyvio. In general more obvious cases can be reverted on
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where it is a junior synonym. It has no bearing on any of the species within that group as far as species level synonymy goes. If you want a see species and genus level synonimies then I suggest follow Rhodin et al., 2011, you can use mine (Georges and Thomson, 2010) for more detail on the Chelids.
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Thanks for the cleanup on the Marion Dufresne article, my first full-scale editing experience. There is probably something wrong with Knowledge if they let someone as dyslexic as me do this kind of thing. Something will come of it I'm sure. If you have time I have a couple of questions posted on
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Sorry for the late reply to this. The answer to your query was not simple and so I couldn't answer straight away and then I run out of time before I went travelling. We've had advice that leaving copyvios in history is not a problem legally (I've lost the link to that again but if you're really
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It doesn't make sense for the article name and the link text on the Main Page to be different. And I'd appreciate you not insulting my intelligence. If that's what you planned to do all along, you shouldn't have come in the first place. With that, I'm definitely not going to help you, so you'd be
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Since you apparently, and surprisingly, don't know, you don't need to be an administrator to move a page from Location A to Location B if Location B has just one edit in its history and that edit is the placing of a redirect to Location A. In other words, you can revert any move so long as the
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Did I, sorry will have to look at it. I don't have the paper in front of me right now. Also please note, the difficulty here is that you are calling these lists of names synonymy's which is a nomenclatural term, and hence has rules. One really important one is the authority also. Some of these
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Basically there's a bunch of phenomena, mostly predictable given human fallibility, all of interest, and a few that we actually need to know to do the job, together with the terminology - some of which I have picked op from doing some botanical stuff.
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was written. I understand the article probably doesn't see much traffic, but if you do decide to revert the move, the first thing you should do afterward is rewrite it to note the ambiguity and put the scientific name as the primary name. --
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The name of a species is made up of parts. It is assumed when reading nomenclatural text that the reader understands the methods used. That's just the way science works, hence some things are assumed to be understood.
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however the species name is still Thomson et al., 2000 the name is still attributed to the original authors. So this is a recombination. All you are really comparing in a species synonymy is the species name, ie
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rather than 1996. To my untutored eye the North-west red-faced turtle is definitely different from that shown at carettochelys.com. Of course we can quite reasonably document the changes in taxonomy.
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I will be interested in what the copyvio people say. Good work removing all those dashes in the turtle articles. I did a few myself. Seems like a minor point to me but I'm not a zoologist. Cheers.
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original article wasn't edited again (which is why move wars can occur). That was the case until 17:40 (UTC), which, as you see, is three hours after our discussion. This is further explained at
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here it's called 'Abingdon Island tortoise', it's a general problem it has many names(each one individually soureable) but collectively conflicting, hence the scientific name was used. Regards,
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Just an addit on something else you asked me once. After a long examination I now know there is not a checklist of fossil turtles in existence, so I am looking into writing one myself. Cheers,
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There were some synonyms already present. I integrated the authority links as best I could, and one synonym, but would appreciate having it checked. The original list is in an HTML comment.
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when I search for "Abingdon Island tortoise". I do see results (some scientific) for the name when doing a regular Google search, but Pinta Island tortoise seems far more common.
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Georges A, Birrell J, Saint K, McCord WP, Donnellan S. 1998. A phylogeny for side-necked turtles (Chelonia: Pleurodira) based on mitochondrial and nuclear gene sequences.
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Your hypothetical would be two completely different species. The species name only has to be unique within a genus, outside this call them what you like. So we can have:
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link is wrong - I will add a disambiguator.. I will include the sub-sp synonyms, but sub pages would be better. The page refs will need tweaking if that is done.
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Yes. The false map turtle is not the Mississippi map turtle. Corrected article. Quite of few of such problems have existed on Knowledge turtle articles. Regards,
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Yes, it does. I like clear definitions, though of course I had read up a bit on the subject, your explanation of genera moving clarifies the intended process.
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neither of it's publications use 'Pinta Islands tortoise'. My issue is not with the page move so much(I've updated the page contents), the issue is with the
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Hopefully that's answered your questions but if not feel free to ask more although please be aware that I'm still travelling so replies may not be quick.
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I apologize if I was overly hostile in my discussions earlier. Thanks for helping come up with a solution that it appears like everybody can agree on.
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from north-western Australia. However, although I have examined the types and compared them this is not published and for some reason there is a lot of
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that? It seemed like Pinta Island tortoise was understood to be the common name in the article, and I was just moving the article to reflect that. --
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I'm occasionally supplanting existing lists, where there is apparent value, even if it's just the authority links, I'm leaving them in comments.
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The article for Tortoise itself lists testudininae as a subfamily of the family testudinidae. This supported by several recent sources including
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Not technically OR as I did not do that, it was Georges et al., who did it and was originally suggested by Cogger et al, 1983. However,
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Heya, am finding refs for the Myuchelys page, added two more hopefully will saticfy your citation request. But I will get more. Cheers,
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was a bit of an exercise in caution, ie look before you sink something. I think people have been too hasty with this species. Cheers,
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Two completely different species not even in the same suborder. One is the Pig-nose turtle the other is a fossil long-neck. Cheers,
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Pre-present synonyms need merging here. Based on reptile database, which is more authoritative? Or do we just merge the tow lists?
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But make sure whatever you write agrees with Rhodin et al., as it is the more recent review and is hence the more correct one.
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I have the freedom to be opinionated. Here I do not. I try to keep to the published work. Note that that particular page on
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That's good, of course. Though an expert who is also a Wikipedian is naturally far more of an RS than one who isn't.
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Somewhere amongst the endless discussions about Gerrit lie details of hackathons, performance blips explained and more
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I had a quick look at this as long as its referenced it seems to have been reworded a bit, I think it is ok. Cheers,
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I don't think you understood Rich's question there. He's referring to two consecutive lines in Fritz 2007. Regards,
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I will say one thing for free but this is OR and hence I cannot put it in the pages. I personally do not think
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I see your not a zoological person, as you would not use G books, but anyway the most authority source is the
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People edit Knowledge doesn't mean it's correct and certainly due weight is often not applied. If you look at
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it's what the band and media refer to it as. I guess I'm just asking for your opinion on the matter, really.
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I would add the synonmys anyway but leave off the "?". I believe the "?" means that it's unclear. Regards,
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No problem, your welcome. Thanks for keeping the article in line with the talk page consensus. Regards,
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to sinking this name. So I have gone along with it. But it has been published that it is a synonym of
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Looks like you did a good job. Until the end of 2011 the article contents was mainly on a page called
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Imagine both are incomplete. Added second reference to cover it now and removed duplicates. Regards,
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into its three evolutionary linneages (I recognise them as subgenera). Hence Artner moved the name
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I'm not sure, just suspected, hence sent to the copyvio process for suspected copyright violation(
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No probs, I suggest we just be consistent and follow the checklist as best as possible. Cheers,
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I guess it did, when I created it. Today it is orphaned and can be deleted, of course. Regards,
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I can't see the references mentioned in the article you're talking about, but I do notice that
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work in copyvio know the instructions etc need updating but if you look at the backlog at
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I have added the Fritz stuff here, commented out (as in one or two other articles)
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Thomson et al., 2000. After this paper came out some started separating the genus
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this edit saying Emydura australis and Emydura signata (synonyms of E. macquarii)
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If you wish to start a new discussion or revive an old one, please do so on the
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which suggest there are other factors. Do we have a recent source that gives
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is someone from IUCN mis-reading TOTW, 2011. I leave it in your capables.
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Hope this helps a bit, am going to point Rich to this also. Cheers,
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Hi Sun, important comment for you, and anyone else interested
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sourcing. Have hopefully clarified the synonyms now. Regards,
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better off complaining somewhere where someone will care. --
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don't mention 'Pinta Island tortoise' as an option. Regards,
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There are no articles for the sub-sp. I redlinked them - the
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has synonyms with a leading "?" - what to do with these?
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An introduction to movement roles
Case review: TimidGuy ban appeal
Berlin reforms to movement structures, Wikidata launches with fanfare, and Knowledge's day of mischief
The Signpost scoops The Signpost
Snakes, misnamed chapels, and emptiness: featured content this week
Race and intelligence review in third week, one open case
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The next big thing? An interview with Wikidata
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The Land of Steady Habits: WikiProject Connecticut
Assassination, genocide, internment, murder, and crucifixion: the bloodiest of the week
Arbitration evidence-limit motions, two open cases
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