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this incessant top priority of source and citation, when the Top Priority should always be the TRUTH. The present Knowledge Euclid Infinitude of Primes Proof is a flawed and invalid contraption, written by someone who is not an expert on the logic of Euclid's Infinitude of Primes Proof. He may well be a renowned mathematician, but he is no expert on Euclid's IP. His writing of the Proof is flawed in many areas. And the best way to show him that his IP proof does not deserve to be in Knowledge's entry is to ask him to display a Euclid Infinitude of Primes Direct Method alongside a Euclid Infinitude of Primes Indirect Method. Cut the editorial nonsense of source and citation, and stick to the Top Priority--- show a TRUE and Crystal Clear Proof.
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Suppose (suggesting you are doing a Indirect Method) and later in your attempt, you throw in a Prime Factor Search for a new prime (which is the Direct Method of increasing set Cardinality). So you mixed two methods into one and end up with a mishmash of a invalid proof. If you do not believe what I am saying, there is a simple test-- you write out a Direct and Indirect Proof of Euclid IP, which would provide you with the obvious understanding that yours is a invalid composite. Anyone who can write out a Direct and Indirect Euclid IP can instantly appreciate that W+1 is neceassarily prime, and so your case example of 30031 only shows your confusion.
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prime factor search. And to top it off, you are so confused with 30031 that you cannot even see that it is necessarily prime in the Indirect Method. Your entry in Knowledge of Euclid's Infinitude of Primes Proof is a laughable and silly example of one who cannot see a clear proof argument. And it is authors like you who continue to burden the minds of young people trying to learn the TRUTH behind this proof. So, Arthur, take the test, I challenge you-- write out a Indirect and a Direct proof of IP, what are you scared of? Why burden young people who want to learn with your messy and invalid proof --- Archimedes Plutonium
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to include both Crutzen's and my own proposal, because in effect we are proposing something larger than the current CAP & TRADE conducted in Europe. Because our proposal is the start of something even larger-- building an Earth Air Conditioner. Crutzen uses sulfur, whereas I use thistle-seed. I am confident that some day in this century all airplanes will be required by law to release some seed into the apogee of airplane flightpath in order to mitigate the worst of Global Warming.
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policies and guidelines of Wiki. Amongst those, is that the biography of a living person (BLP) is NOT owned to any significant extent by the subject of the biography, ie AP's article is not owned by AP. Therefore /your/ requests to have it deleted are going to have no particualr weight, unless you can demonstrate that it fails to meet the many policies that already exist. In general an article that does not met those policies would be edited and improved in preference to being deleted.
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Knowledge stands at this very moment, it displays a false and messy and invalid proof of Infinitude of Primes and leaves the reader with the high degree of confusion over reductio ad absurdum and when is 30031 prime or not prime and where is set cardinality fit with reductio ad absurdum. So all is confusion with the present Knowledge entry of Euclid IP.
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I agree it does not make it wrong, but it does not reveal whether the person knows the full story as to a valid Direct and a valid Indirect, and where the two methods reinforce the logic of each. So that if a person can proffer both simultaneously, we can be sure that the person fully understands the
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Perhaps my display has a few grammatical errors, but mine is Crystal Clear and mine is TRUE and mine is nonconfusing. Mine shows the difference between Direct and Indirect. Mine is true. Mine teaches young people the correct way to prove infinitude of primes. Knowledge's present display is flawed and
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Cut the endless wrangle over whether Euclid intended Direct or intended Indirect, and give a proof using both methods side by side. So if Arthur Rubin wants to keep his entry of Euclid's IP, I have no gripe about that as long as he gives both Methods and thus wards off confusion by young learners. As
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Perhaps I could get a number of editors to put up a Dispute Tag, because of the consideration that Arthur Rubin is the author of the item which I am disputing and which he has a vested interest in. Also I am posting this conversation in part to sci.math and Mark Nudelman is helping in the discussion.
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You have to win the argument externally and have the result published in verifiable reliable secondary sources before it becomes suitable material for wikipedia. Knowledge's policies are clear; it is not the place to push your original research, even if you turn out to be correct and the rest of the
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No one seems actually to be telling you what is going on. I'll fill you in on some background. Please be aware, I have zero authority around here, other than the respect that is due to /any/ editor who plays by the rules. Firstly, we are attempting to make the article about AP conform to the various
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thanks for redirecting me. I knew it had to be somewhere but I am afraid of a title as Mitigation of Global Warming is hard to find by those who are looking for Solutions list. Perhaps they can find it because Global Warming is the general topic and mitigation a subtopic. Anyway, I feel it important
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It is unknown as to whether Euclid meant a Direct or Indirect proof, since his proof was over 2,000 years old and the concepts in ancient times were not able to differentiate whether Euclid intended to be Direct or Indirect, which is further complicated by the fact that Reductio Ad Absurdum was just
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I concur with what you said above. I strongly believe Euclid meant his proof to be Direct, but somewhere in history, reductio ad absurdum was attached to Euclid's IP. But regardless, I think we should place both methods side by side whenever we talk about Euclid's Infinitude of Primes proof. Side by
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Thanks for the reply Arthur. I guess you are truly the author of this Knowledge entry since you do not deny the claim. And I guess the tag I seek is a Dispute Tag. I respectfully request from Knowledge to apply a dispute tag. I can cite several sources that this Knowledge entry is error laden. I can
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And it should be given a paragraph about the history of Euclid's IP proof saying that this was so ancient of history of mathematics that they did not understand well in those ancient times that you could have a Direct Method and Indirect Method because Reductio Ad Absurdum was just discovered in the
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In reply to Arthur Rubin. Hello Arthur, I think you are the author of the present existing Knowledge entry on the Euclid Infinitude of Primes Proof. At least that was what was suggested in 2006 when I attempted to correct the Knowledge entry. So maybe I am in luck with confronting the present author
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My advice to you is to accept that the article will (probably) exist, but recognise that it will not be a soapbox for your theories. I suggest that you object to those biographical details and attacks that you disagree with, and that are unsupported by external documentation, and perhaps accept that
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So, please put a Dispute Tag on Euclid's IP saying that it will be removed once some author or authors display a Direct Euclid IP alongside an Indirect Euclid IP. Because such a display forces the authors to have a VALID proof. And then we can add a paragraph saying that it is unknown as to whether
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No the response is not a singular personal viewpoint. If you check the history of Knowledge's entry of Euclid IP, you will see that for years back, many others have raised this issue of Direct and Indirect which was always glossed away and ignored. And a troubling feature of encyclopedia editors is
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What I am asking is a Dispute Tag be placed on this entry for the time being. And that to end the confusion, that both a DIRECT Method proof and a INDIRECT Method proof of Euclid IP be given that would end and remove the Dispute Tag. This would end the confusion on the part of young people who are
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Euclid Proof of Infinitude of Primes: Direct Method: Increase the cardinality of any finite set for example {3,5} form W+1 = (3x5)+1 which is 16. Now apply the prime factor search yielding the prime 2 out of 16. Thus you produced a new prime not on your list. And since *any* finite set is increased
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But citations is not my best evidence against your entry, for my best evidence is that you are unable to give a valid Direct plus Indirect of this proof, because you have the two mixed up into one in your entry as is. Your entry starts as a Reductio ad Absurdum and moves on to a Direct method of a
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Euclid Proof of Infinitude of Primes: Indirect Method: Suppose {3,5} are the only primes. Form W+1 = (3x5)+1 which is 16. It is necessarily prime because 3 and 5 are all the primes that ever exist but when they divide into W+1 they leave a remainder of 1, hence W+1 is prime from the definition of
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Euclid Proof of Infinitude of Primes: Indirect Method: Suppose {3,5} are the only primes. Form W+1 = (3x5)+1 which is 16. It is necessarily prime because 3 and 5 are all the primes that ever exist but when they divide into W+1 they leave a remainder of 1, hence W+1 is prime from the definition of
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Arthur, if you are indeed the author of the present Knowledge entry of Euclid Infinitude of Primes Proof it is flawed because it is the mixture of both the Direct and Indirect all inside one proof attempt. Because of this mixture of methods, it is logically unsound and invalid. You start off with
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So, this is why setting the new standard eliminates the confusion and the errors. That we require all who prove Euclid Infinitude of Primes to give two proofs-- one in Direct method and alongside one in Indirect Method so that the two in tandem will guide the author to making a crystal clear and
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As for his sentence "And one is not divisible by any primes" is a sentence that is non sequitur to the proof itself and a case which shows the author is not an expert of this proof. I think what happened here is the author focused on Euclid's ancient proof too much where Euclid was obsessed with
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Arthur, can you put a template up in front of that entry to suggest that the present entry is unsatisfactory because it is a flawed proof and that this entry is under a watchful eye. I am sure there are many templates in Knowledge and this one deserves a template in that the proof is under much
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Okay, your last three paragraphs are excellent, because it hints of where the historical problems probably arose, where G.H. Hardy was under the illusion that Euclid IP was reductio ad absurdum. He probably read what you quoted and also saw some word "Assume or Suppose" early on and then Hardy
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But no, this exercise has lead me to a valuable conclusion, that the best way to resolve this issue is to ask anyone that is required to Prove Euclid Infinitude of Primes, that they cannot get away with just a Direct Method or just a Indirect Method, but that they are required to register both
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This wikipedia article on prime numbers contains many deep results. However the current claimed "indirect method" seems to be the personal viewpoint of one editor and does not reflect the general consensus. The last paragraph is not written in a style appropriate for a wikipedia article: it is
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Tell, me, does Knowledge have some sort of group type meeting where things such as the discussion of Priorities can be aired, because I sense this Misplaced Value towards sources and references and citations have gone amok in Knowledge circles and losing sight of the Top Priority-- the TRUTH.
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The Knowledge page on Euclid's IP proof needs a Dispute Tag attached. The challenge is that Arthur Rubin's entry (at least he never denied he is the author of that entry), makes it impossible for him to deliver a valid IP both Direct and Indirect Method, because he has the two mixed up as one
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It is invalid because it starts with Suppose and it ends with the sentence of the case of 30031, because 30031 is necessarily prime in the Indirect Method. So when an expert reads the Knowledge entry those two clues of Suppose and 30031 tells us the author was writing a Indirect Method and
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And that anyone wanting to give a valid Infinitude of Primes proof following along the lines of Euclid, must show that his/her proof can provide not only a valid Direct Method but a valid Indirect Method, for which the present Knowledge entry is a failure since it is a mixture of both.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 12:31:55 -0700 Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 2:31 pm Subject: will Arthur Rubin take the challenge or leave a messy and invalid Euclid IP proof on Knowledge; can a senior Wiki editor enter and add a Dispute Tag Re: Correcting Knowledge's Euclid's Infinitude of Primes Proof
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And you seem to believe Euclid's IP was direct. But G.H. Hardy in his book A Mathematician's Apology writes that Euclid's IP is Indirect. So, already the history is relevant as to why thousands of mathematicians believe Euclid did an Indirect and then others believe he did a Direct.
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Well Dave, keep in mind that your picking apart the above is not my proof offering but that of Arthur Rubin's as listed in Knowledge for Euclid's Infinitude of Primes. I want to throw the entire proof out as invalid since it is a mixture of both the Direct and Indirect Method.
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an article about AP may not be as enthusiastic as you would hope. I did think that your proposal for the article wasn't too bad, but you need to include links to your theory rather than having them on Wiki. And in fairness, most of the links to Usenet do need to stay. Cheers
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And because you Mark seems to think that the Knowledge entry is correct except for a minor delete of the word "Suppose", that I doubt you can proffer a valid Indirect alongside a valid Direct. So would you mind showing us your version of a Euclid Direct and Indirect proof.
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Euclid Proof of Infinitude of Primes: Direct Method: Increase the cardinality of any finite set for example {3,5} form W+1 = (3x5)+1 which is 16. Now apply the prime factor search yielding the prime 2 out of 16. Thus you produced a new prime not on your list. And since
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What an interesting question. There is no secret code. Only a very small amount of intelligence is required to make a revert. However, it is likely that you will be banned from editing wikipedia if you continue vandalising the discussion pages of
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I don't see that Arther Rubin has added much of anything to the article. His edits are all reverts of errors. If he wrote something that you feel is a conflict of interest or his original research, please point it out and I'll consider it.
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So what I am asking of Knowledge is to eventually have their entry contain both the Direct Method and Indirect Method, side by side so that confusion is vastly eliminated in the minds of young readers who want to learn this properly.
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cite Karl Heuer in sci.math circa 1994, and Stillwell's book Mathematics and its History, and several in sci.math who have stated they believe Euclid's proof was Direct, plus my book written and published to sci.math on this subject.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 18:12:57 -0700 Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 8:12 pm Subject: new standard for Euclid IP proof-- able to give both Direct and Indirect alongside one another Re: Correcting Knowledge's Euclid's Infinitude of Primes Proof
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Since Euclid's wording throws a "Suppose" in it, others have wrongly fastened on the idea that Euclid did a Indirect method, whereas the other language suggests Euclid did a Direct method of increasing set cardinality.
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 13:01:16 -0700 Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 3:01 pm Subject: Re: again, listing the flaws of Knowledge's Euclid Infinitude of Primes proof Re: Correcting Knowledge's Euclid's Infinitude of Primes Proof
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wikipedia does not have a hierarchy of editors. Just editors (like you and me) and admins. If you call on an admin, they can decide about policy, not about content. In your case, the most relevant policy may be
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proof and can give it crystal clearly. It is much like a bricklayer or block layer who calls it quits once the brick is placed and never goes back to tuck point the joints and leaves the joints messy and ugly.
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policy, edits where there is a conflict of interest, or where such a conflict might reasonably be inferred from the tone of the edit and the proximity of the editor to the subject, are strongly discouraged.
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Why are you cutting and pasting posts from sci.math here? Are the contributors wikipedia editors? The correct place for you to make whichever points you wish to make is on the wikipedia discussion page for
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Date: 10 Apr 2007 17:47:08 -0700 Local: Tues, Apr 10 2007 7:47 pm Subject: require Euclid IP proofs to give both Direct and Indirect in tandem Re: Correcting Knowledge's Euclid's Infinitude of Primes Proof
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explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.
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explaining your position. Please do not remove the speedy deletion tag yourself, but don't hesitate to add information to the article that would confirm its subject's notability under the guidelines.
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But it is wrong to intertwine the two methods and thence call it a valid proof. We must remember that many of Euclid's proofs of geometry were corrected in modern times, and his IP is now corrected.
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If Karl Heuer is an editor of Knowledge, then I recommend that he edit this page of Euclid's Infinitude of Primes, for he is one of the few people that recognizes the truth of this logical argument.
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the article must be properly sourced and all negative commentary and criticism must be especially well sourced. This is just as true in the article about Francis as it is in the article about you. -
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Although I believe your argument is completely bogus, that's not a reason for failing to place a dispute tag on the article. The reason is that the dispute neither contained nor described in any
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already. In order for Arthur to give a valid Direct and a valid Indirect would mean he has to peal away his present entry and give some elements to the Direct and other elements to the Indirect.
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prohibits making more than three reversions in a content dispute within a 24 hour period. Additionally, users who perform a large number of reversions in content disputes may be blocked for
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Mathematics has lived with a Incorrect Infinitude of Primes proof since Euclid. I corrected it. And I understand it may take decades before others realize the truth of what I said.
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So, can you, Dave Renfro offer up a IP direct method alongside an IP indirect method. That tandem offering puts extra burden on the author to make a valid and crystal clear proof.
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This is an essay that promotes particular points of view, and is not encyclopedic in tone. It is also a duplicate of the article above that is also proposed for speedy deletion.
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methods in two proofs alongside one another. That requirement then puts the burden on the author to give a Valid proof that is crystal clear, if they have the wits to do it.
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Most mathematicians who have given a proof of IP in a book prior to this, are now faced with embarrassement. Embarrassement in that they could not even give a valid proof.
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To my mind the AfD on the AP article is partly concerned with the extent to which Usenet, the Internet, and so on, can be regarded as primary sources in their own right.
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this fray and attach a Dispute Tag, because Arthur is to close to the problem itself (thanks) : Newsgroups: sci.math From: "a_plutonium" <a_pluton...@hotmail.com: -->
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Please do not create articles requesting other articles. There is a very complete series of articles on global warming; perhaps the most relevent of which to you is
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For you see, I have set a new standard of correctness for Euclid IP. That if you think you know the proof, you should be able to give both alongside one another.
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So I request some senior editor of Knowledge, senior to Arthur Rubin since he is too close to the problem of this entry, to place a Dispute Tag on this entry.
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You, Mark, have not offered your version of Direct alongside Indirect, so I do not expect you to understand or see why Knowledge's is a flawed attempt.
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The TOP Priority of Knowledge and any other encyclopedia is not the source or the citation, but is in fact what we all crave and depend on the TRUTH.
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discovered around the time of Euclid. One thing though is certain that if you combine the two methods into one, you end up with an invalid argument.
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No, just the opposite. If I thought they were correct, I would not be making these posts. Knowledge's IP is flawed and invalid and muddled.
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I do not know how long Knowledge keeps its TALK over disputes of a entry so I post to sci.math to get that date time group and permanence.
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Archimedes Plutonium www.iw.net/~a_plutonium whole entire Universe is just one big atom where dots of the electron-dot-cloud are galaxies
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mathematically ungrammatical. Moreover for remarks about the history of science, shouldn't the precise source be quoted? --
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If you have a close connection to some of the people, places or things you have written about on Knowledge, you may have a
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Ultimately we are faced with posting a Wrong Infinitude of Primes proof, which is what Knowledge currently is displaying.
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invalid and teaches noone the difference between Direct and Indirect and in fact confuses more than it clarifies.
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So, Arthur, is there a template you can throw up in front of this entry saying that this proof is under scrutiny.
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among editors. I don't know how many of your changes qualify as reverts, but you're certainly edit warring. —
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Here is the recent post to sci.math Newsgroups: sci.math From: "a_plutonium" <a_pluton...@hotmail.com: -->
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The above last paragraphs is so informative that I will take the liberty of posting it to Knowledge TALK.
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But because they are embarrassed, does that mean we should keep and broadcast a False proof in Knowledge?
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Knowledge is "the encyclopedia that anyone can edit", but if you have a conflict of interest, you should
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division into one, and the present author transferred that ancient obsession into a modern day summary.
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Euclid intended one or the other since Reductio Ad Absurdum was newly discovered by the time of Euclid.
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I doubt the author can display a Direct alongside an Indirect because his has both mixed up together.
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So maybe Mark is an editor of Knowledge and perhaps he can serve as a go-between me and Arthur Rubin.
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Readers, above all else deserve the truth, regardless of whether it embarrasses the establishment.
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I have been discussing and debating this topic since 1993, with thousands of illogical responses.
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More information with regards to showing both a Direct Method and Indirect Method for Euclid's IP
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Or, we can display a true Infinitude of Primes proof. And where readers see a TRUE proof.
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If you think this guy has done a bang-up job of fixing the proof of an infinite number of
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Here is what the Knowledge Euclid Infinitude of Primes Proof should look like:
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This is a clear proof by contradiction, just as the proof of the theorem : -->
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able to write one, because he actually uses a proof by contradiction for : -->
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proof. Euclid certainly knew what a proof by contradiction was, and was : -->
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proof alone, that doesn't make it wrong. Someone who had never seen the : -->
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It looks to me like a straightforward direct proof that given a set of m : -->
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as it stands is correct. It may be confusing to someone who expects to : -->
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Ok, so you agree that wikipedia's proof is correct as it stands, and it : -->
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untrue to say that it is "unknown" as to what type of proof Euclid was : -->
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Euclid intended to be Direct or Indirect, which is further complicated : -->
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Now you're contradicting what you said earlier. The wikipedia article : -->
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modern direct proof, or to any discussion about what Euclid actually wrote.
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Euclid's proof. In what way is there an indirect proof mixed in with this?
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I recommend we give Euclid full credit for IP and simply list both methods.
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theorem proved by contradiction would not be confused by the direct proof.
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of Primes proof. Side by side will eliminate most confusion over this : -->
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see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article
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by the fact that Reductio Ad Absurdum was just discovered around the : -->
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It is unknown as to whether Euclid meant a Direct or Indirect proof, : -->
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displays a false and messy and invalid proof of Infinitude of Primes : -->
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Well, that's a personal preference. If someone presents the direct : -->
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misunderstood Euclid isn't relevant, either to the correctness of a : -->
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as a whole is clearly a direct proof, not by contradiction. It is : -->
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will also measure the remainder, unit DF, (despite) being a number : -->
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I don't agree with this. Euclid's proof is quite clearly a direct : -->
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I think we should place both methods side by side whenever we talk : -->
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fixing the flawed Knowledge entry on Euclid's Infinitude of Primes proof
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primes, there is another prime not in the set. It's the same as : -->
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Wrong, the Knowledge version is a sloppy mixture of both methods : -->
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Minor point 1: I think "by any primes" should be "by any prime" : -->
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Multiply all m primes together and add one (see Euclid number). : -->
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30031 prime or not prime and where is set cardinality fit with : -->
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Thus, G will also measure DE. And it also measures EF. (So) G : -->
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possible, let it be (the same). And A, B, C (all) measure DE. : -->
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So all is confusion with the present Knowledge entry of Euclid IP.
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any* finite set is increased in cardinality implies it is infinite.
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This is what Knowledge used to have in year 2006 for the IP proof:
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It's true either way, but by not being explicit you leave : -->
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finite list, or not divisible by any prime what so ever? : -->
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the point in saying that one is not divisible by any primes.
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find a proof by contradiction there, but it is not invalid.
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a remainder of one. And one is not divisible by any primes.
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side will eliminate most confusion over this famous proof.
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one of the subcases in his proof of 9.20. Euclid wrote:
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interpreting Euclid as writing a Indirect Method proof.
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prime and larger than 5. Contradiction therefore proof.
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This is the best I could do in as brief of a writing---
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prime and larger than 5. Contradiction therefore proof.
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Can a senior editor over that of Arthur Rubin step into
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the reader trying to guess at your intended meaning.
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Earth Planetary Air-Conditioner; solving Global-Warming
Earth Planetary Air-Conditioner; solving Global-Warming
criteria for speedy deletion
see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article
hangon
the article's talk page
for biographies
for web sites
for bands
for companies
Ronbo76
05:26, 19 March 2007 (UTC)
Global Warming Solutions
Global Warming Solutions
criteria for speedy deletion
see the guidelines for what is generally accepted as an appropriate article
hangon
the article's talk page
for biographies
for web sites
for bands
for companies
Realkyhick
05:41, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

vandalise
Bipedalism
blocked
Denny
17:16, 19 March 2007 (UTC)

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