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section of this article. My perspective is that some photos are better than none. Having not had any photos in that section prior to my contributions creates a reflection on the article that athletics are unimportant at UB. While most of my text contributions to this overall article have been maintained, you deleted 2/3 of my photo contributions. So, I challenge you to replace them with updated and current photos since I am on the other side of the country and it would not be feasible for me to do so, otherwise I would. You have taken a leadership role with this article, and I challenge you to uphold it by improving and enhancing it with more updated photos than what I contributed. If you do not, then it would be obvious that a conflict about it may be preferred by you rather than compromise. Having had no images in the athletics section, in my opinion and prior to my image contributions, made it a section that was lacking in quality and which needed enhancement. That is where I'm coming from, and I challenge you to take charge and make it better.
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else when I added Bill Greiner, and then re-added him again after you deleted him. I believe it is you who are in conflict. Please do not jump to conclusions before going back through all the edits to confirm this. Once you do that, you will see that I did not "replace" anyone. I only added Bill, and it was you who deleted him. Why did you delete him, reverting my two edits/additions of him? This is something that should be discussed on the talk page. The former president of UB who worked there for 42 years, who was president for 13 years, who made many advancements for the university, and who brought the school back to Division I, I believe is noteworthy enough for his photograph to be reflected in the notable alumni and faculty section. I am moving this discussion to the article's talk page.
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publication, document, apparel, etc. Secondly, the differentiation between the "University at Buffalo" and the "University of Buffalo" is marginal at best. Stating the difference, in my opinion, is not needed and is again redundant. This is my opinion of course. For your sake however, you edited the first sentecne
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Let me throw my two cents in. As an employee of the university system, I was "strongly encouraged" to use "University AT Buffalo", since it's the State University of New York AT Buffalo. Buffalo does not have a university of it's own. The use "of" and "at" have completely different meanings last I
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Davidhar, Again, I think your assumptions with regard to what I had attempted to achieve in contributing my images to the article are incorrect. Instead of complaining and continuing an argument that is going nowhere, I challenge you to take and upload photos of some UB sports teams to the athletics
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Davidhar, You are mistaken. First of all, you do not own any articles, nor have any authority in telling me what to do or how to edit. Second of all, I did not replace Terry Gross, nor did I realize or know that Terry Gross had been in that section. Terry Gross had already been deleted by someone
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with Bill Greiner. Your recent edits both on the University's wikipedia and on William Greiner's suggests a conflict of interest and I would advise to not edit wikipedia pages with respect to Bill Greiner if this is the case (per WP codes). Terry Gross, the original alumnus who was replaced by Bill
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Ok, someone's adding more common names again for UB. They wrote that "Other names like 'Buffalo University', 'UBuffalo' and 'UBuff' are also commonly seen." This is not true. "University OF Buffalo" is mistakenly used... that's the only common name. We DO use a hash tag of UBuffalo... but not in
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to revising the U of T article to represent the entire University. At present, the wikipedia leaves out roughly half of the entire U of T population...and that's inaccurate and inappropriate by wikipedia standards. While the U of T isn't a University system (like I've said repeatedly), even if it
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Thanks again for starting the merge of campuses. I'm not up to the job, but I totally agree it's worth doing. It would need a plan, and I'd hate to see someone's hard work get deleted by some other editor who complained because there wasn't consensus from the start. I'd try the university work
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First of all, you edited the page using the title "Buffalo University, The State University of New York at Buffalo"....show me a source that says that...cuz in my view, that is the most idiotic and redundant name ever created for a university, and as a student, have never seen that in any
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With that said, it would be good if you were clear about any potential or real conflicts of interest, David. Transparency is extremely important in this large and diverse community of people because we rarely meet and have to be very intentional about building and maintaining trust.
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I actually have taken my own photos and have, in fact, placed them onto the page. They were taken off and deleted by Mtking for no apparent reason. And this time, it was a mistake. I thought all rights reserved meant that I can put them up. Simple misunderstanding. Thanks.
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I was taking the time to explain why I reverted your change, it is a long-standing WP policy to delete any copyright file that is not used on an article, so before a file which has been used since 2007 is deleted, it needs to be clear that there is consensus to change it.
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normal human speech. Since Buffalo has several universities, 'Buffalo University' is NOT misapplied, and I have never heard anyone refer to UBuff. Someone is making those up. Can you help..? Or advise what else we can do to reign this nonsense in..? Thanks.
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I'll take this to the article's Talk page where you can explain to everyone why you think the lead of this article shouldn't introduce the prominent alternate names of this subject, its prominent historic name, and the abbreviation used throughout the article.
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checked. Here's my nickel to including "at" as a current usage, and "of" as a previous use, which is the way I've understood it since I was informed of the correct usage of University "at" Buffalo.
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I'm actually not talking about those. I took pictures that were clearly MINE and placed them on the page in May of 2011. You not only took them off the page, but you deleted them without reason.
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