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away although for the final 2-3 weeks he was unable to go in to the office. I removed and/or corrected any references to that word. Thirdly, regarding my mother: "most of her family had been imprisoned and died in Nazi prison camps ....." is not true. Just one brother was in a concentration camp. Period. Fourthly, my parents arrived in the US (via Ellis Island) on
February 8, 1952. They married in New York on August 9, 1952. I will be adding that fact back in. The correct amount of money they had in their pockets upon arrival was $ 6, not $ 12. Fifthly, my parents relocated to Washington, DC during the 2 years my father was in the Army and they remained in DC (and my dad in Arlington after he remarried) for the rest of their lives. I was born in DC. Sixthly, my parents NEVER knew each other in Prague; they met in a London bookstore. You correctly stated that but I removed the Prague reference. With regard to my father's architectural career, I have legal possession of all of the archives (drawings and files, etc.) from my father's office. It is a massive collection. As I go through it I will bring any other corrections to your attention. Also, I know that the collective worth of the buildings my father designed over his entire career is vastly in excess of $ 2 billion. However, I will let that figure stand until I can go through all the records and determine a more accurate value. Similarly, if you wish to add or change anything regarding my parents' personal lives you may verify it with me first. And lastly, please refrain from calling my father a "busy little termite". Thank you very much. Jana Koubek
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I'll fight the fight for keeping it -- a single fair use image usually passes FA, and in this case, it's the only image we have of a Yogo in a setting, it's a famous piece that contributes to the article, not a photo of the entire brooch, etc. I'm not too worried so long as we have a fair and
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