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that level of detail is desirable, do we know, for instance, that the team now calling itself the Portland Timbers is the same team (whatever that means) that played in the NASL in 1975? Or is it just a new bunch of people hoping to capitalize on the friendly associations that people have with the old NASL name? I think you're an energetic and valuable editor but you will be a better one still, the more you try to ensure that your contributions make sense within the policies of Knowledge. Sorry for carrying on so long, and I hope you take this in the friendly spirit in which it is offered.
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it. The DC United / Philadelphia Union article is a real good example. I'm sure that, by virtue of their proximity, those two teams will be at each others' throats for years to come; but as of right now, after one season, there *is* no rivalry, and an article discussing it is simply premature. Likewise those changes to the MLS table. If the outlook for 2011 is uncertain, then leave things as they were in 2010 and maybe just add something short about the uncertainty. Take a look at, for example,
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since this was discussed in detail on the Talk page.) And, while relegation would bring MLS into line with the rest of the world (and would make for a much more interesting late season), the article you cited for the proposition that it was "eventually" coming said in fact that relegation was "not on the horizon" because the US lacks a financially viable second-tier league. That pretty squarely places the notion in the "wish list" category! Thanks -
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Well, if there *are* long-term plans, then I think it'd be fine to talk about them. The whole relegation issue as it relates to MLS is an interesting subject. The problem is that right now, as best I can tell, there are no plans, as such, to move to a system involving relegation; and any discussion
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I'll work on it soon. The idea behind the Seattle Sounders page was to serve the same purpose of the Portland Timbers and Vancouver Whitecaps' pages. I feel it would be easier if someone was to research the history of the club name and franchises of the NASL, USL, etc. if they had one page to go to,
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Also, please, don't make edits that aren't supported by sources, or which stretch sources beyond what they say. I would love to see a dual championship in MLS (playoff and record) but as of now there is only one. You shouldn't say, as you did in the MLS article, that there are two. (Particularly
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which explains some of this in more detail. Likewise with that MLS table; you are obviously a student of the game, and of the league, but don't add information simply because you can compile it. Particularly when it isn't sourced, for instance, "first year in the top tier". Setting aside whether
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Thomas - I am feeling bad about proposing deletion of your articles, reverting changes etc. that you've obviously spent a lot of time on -- but several of them are just a bit ahead of themselves, and it might be a good idea to think a little harder about making a change before going ahead and doing
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Sure, say that he likes the ideas - in the abstract - if it's not too tangential, being just his personal view. The problem is with language implying that relegation is an eventuality for MLS, something slated one day for its future, when in the very same article Garber says he doesn't see it "on
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the horizon", i.e, any time that he can foresee. If there is a plan to adopt a system of relegation for MLS, cite to the plan. If there's no plan *and* if a system of relegation requires circumstances not today in existence, then I think it is entirely fair to describe it as a wish.
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Hi, you made a series of edits to this article a month or so ago, and whilst the additions overall appear to be useful they have not been sourced, and ineed the one in-line citation that was in the article has now been removed. Can you add some in-line citations for your edits. Thanks.
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It was unnecessary advice based upon invalid presumptions. There was no vandalism used. Claiming that the MLS Cup finals is an event of the MLS Playoffs is far from vandalism. Unless of course there's a policy I'm breaching, which I've yet to find.
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The problem is that the history of the club is, or can be, covered quite competently within the three already existing articles describing the clubs with this name. A fourth article to consolidate and repeat the information is just redundant.
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Thomas, are you planning to flesh out this article soon? It's pretty thin right now and I'm thinking that it might make sense to turn it into a redirect to one of the other pages until it has some actual content. Let me know. Thanks.
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Hello, I removed this section from the article as it is repetitive and unnecessary. If you think it has merit, I'd be more than happy to talk about it. Thanks!
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If you are going to remove it as invalid I am happy to start reverting on sight as vandalism. You could have just taken the advice. Have fun.
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That doesn't mean we dismiss it. If he says he would like it, that means he would like it. It doesn't mean it's a "wish list" category.
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of it as something that is *going* to happen falls somewhere between "premature" and "wishful thinking".
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verifying the actual existence of this supposed rivalry. A list of game results is not sufficient.
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Thanks. Best solution is to just talk about short terms plans in that aspect?
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