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The only difference is that they do not represent the POV of a wikipedia author, but rather the POV of a large group of people sampled by a media organization. These are not fact articles, but rather opinion articles (sure they are fact articles in the sense that the polls occured, but the occurance of an event does not automatically make it important, and the thrust of the article is expounding on opinion). Lists like this are created all the time. They can be fun, but they are not encyclopedic unless actually used to further some noteworthy agenda.
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I am sure this was a very nice and much talked about poll, but at the end of the day, that is really all it was. A media organization conducted a popularity to contest to discover what a group of people thought about the impact of other people in the nation's history. The poll does not really prove
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I am aware of which media organization conducted the poll thank you very much. That is completely immaterial to the point, as is enumerating other examples of wikipedia articles that do the same thing. These lists are by their very nature POV due to the fact that they represent opinion not fact.
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