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496:. Votes in AfDs should be based on the merits of the subject of the article, not opinions on the validity of the nomination. While in this case bold change to redirect was considered, it does not hurt Knowledge (XXG) to allow for a formal discussion at AfD. While I too would like if these were all together, I am certain that if they were, editors would not check every single one and would only look at a few randomly in determining their notability (which is understandable given there are thousands, I suppose). At least one of the individual noms resulted in keep, and that is the goal here. Weed out the unimportant ones, keep the few that are notable. 351:, there have been ongoing discussions about these asteroids since 2012, particularly insisting on discussions (not unilateral redirects) for those numbered below 2000 (as this one is). This doesn't indicate that all below 2000 are notable, but that they should be looked at carefully. Because of the extensive discussions about this, the ATD is not to just unilaterally redirect. There was an AfD on multiple asteroids recently, which was withdrawn because they are different and need to be assessed individually, especially as this is an area not many people have knowledge of - hence them sitting in 318:. The generic nature of the nomination is further apparent in its vague suggestion that we "delete / redirect". Which is it then? Deletion is a severe and specific process which removes the edit history, attribution, talk page and all related detail. Redirection is a comparatively benign process which 500:
says "A single paper is not enough to establish notability for most objects. Being mentioned alongside other similar objects, such as in a table of properties of 200 newly discovered supernovae, does not constitute non-trivial coverage; the paper needs to have significant commentary on the object."
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for over 3 years and the numerous discussions on the Wikiproject and other venues. The nomination may be the same, but the asteroids aren't. Delete / redirect is not intended in any way to be generic, just that I would be happy with either option. NASTRO and ATD would suggest redirect. Hopefully
252:.... Yeah problem is it doesn't exist so I've had to rollback every single closure I made - I assumed the nom had checked this before adding it above but clearly not .... So not wise to redirect these unless ofcourse you have time to waste!. – 330:
process not being followed when the nomination is exactly the same in every case? The deletion process is being abused and so these nominations should be speedily terminated to avoid wasting the community's time.
174: 525:; insufficient sources found to demonstrate notability. I would add that it would be good if you could limit these to, say, ten per day. The number is getting decidedly unwieldy at this point. 294:
There are a large number of nominations like this, all with the same cookie-cutter text. Let's consider this one as a test case. Firstly, the nomination claims that the subject doesn't pass
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these AfDs will save editors' time - the different editors starting discussions in different Wikiprojects etc., and allow us to resolve the 3 year issue finally.
298:. This claim seems to be false, because the Google Scholar link indicates that there have been specific detailed studies of this object such as 134: 469: 217: 17: 592:: It is a LARGE Mars-crossing asteroid and not one of the thousands of meaningless main-belt asteroid stubs created by a bot. -- 322:
all this and may be done by ordinary editing. If redirection is a good idea, why has the nominator not tried this first, per
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without doing any kind of background check yourself. NASTRO makes it clear that re-direct or keep are the only options.
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in which the spectrum of this object has been analysed in detail. This is given as a specific example in
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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As a Mars crosser, the asteroid is notable for its ~10km diameter alone. --
385:. You are more interested in CAT:NN then improving astronomical content. -- 52:. Consensus against deletion is clear. As for the redirecting, there is 314:. Nothing is said about this in the nomination which therefore fails 352: 677:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
248:- I originally closed most on this log (2 May) as redirect to 609:
How does it being a Mars-crossing asteroid mean it meets
117: 113: 109: 181: 195: 310:and so indicates that the object actually passes 43:). No further edits should be made to this page. 691:). No further edits should be made to this page. 542:. Nothing of interest found on Google scholar. — 565:Knowledge (XXG):Notifications#Triggering_events 8: 447:list of Science-related deletion discussions 445:Note: This debate has been included in the 444: 377:: Boleyn, you seem to be trying to make a 428:Deletion is not an option per NASTRO. -- 408:astronomical object notability criteria 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 571:, see response above from Boleyn. ― 213:; delete / redirect per NASTRO to 24: 470:List of minor planets: 1001–2000 218:List of minor planets: 1001–2000 250:List of minor planets 1000-2000 215:List of minor planets 1000-2000 1: 708: 228:) 08:11, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 680:Please do not modify it. 670:14:58, 11 May 2015 (UTC) 70:18:13, 15 May 2015 (UTC) 32:Please do not modify it. 645:12:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC) 627:20:12, 6 May 2015 (UTC) 602:16:28, 6 May 2015 (UTC) 584:23:12, 5 May 2015 (UTC) 559:Fixing broken ping for 552:18:19, 4 May 2015 (UTC) 535:17:01, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 514:15:26, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 458:13:52, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 438:12:29, 8 May 2015 (UTC) 420:12:07, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 395:16:36, 6 May 2015 (UTC) 366:11:48, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 341:10:57, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 286:06:44, 9 May 2015 (UTC) 266:00:56, 9 May 2015 (UTC) 238:08:11, 2 May 2015 (UTC) 246:Non admin closure note 662:exoplanetaryscience 383:AFD is not cleanup 586: 563:, details here: ( 460: 67: 699: 682: 582: 576: 558: 512: 506: 492:, please follow 491: 454: 452: 263: 258: 200: 199: 185: 137: 125: 107: 63: 60: 34: 707: 706: 702: 701: 700: 698: 697: 696: 695: 689:deletion review 678: 574: 572: 569:Andrew Davidson 504: 502: 488:Andrew Davidson 485: 349:Andrew Davidson 259: 254: 142: 133: 98: 82: 79: 66: 58: 48:The result was 41:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 705: 703: 694: 693: 673: 672: 650: 649: 648: 647: 630: 629: 604: 587: 567:) Here ya go: 555: 554: 544:David Eppstein 537: 516: 476:(specifically 462: 461: 442: 441: 440: 423: 422: 400: 399: 398: 397: 369: 368: 343: 271: 270: 269: 268: 203: 202: 139: 78: 73: 64: 46: 45: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 704: 692: 690: 686: 681: 675: 674: 671: 667: 663: 659: 655: 652: 651: 646: 642: 638: 634: 633: 632: 631: 628: 624: 620: 616: 612: 608: 605: 603: 599: 595: 591: 588: 585: 581: 577: 570: 566: 562: 557: 556: 553: 549: 545: 541: 538: 536: 532: 528: 524: 520: 517: 515: 511: 507: 499: 495: 489: 483: 479: 475: 471: 467: 464: 463: 459: 456: 455: 453:Esquivalience 448: 443: 439: 435: 431: 427: 426: 425: 424: 421: 417: 413: 409: 405: 402: 401: 396: 392: 388: 384: 380: 376: 373: 372: 371: 370: 367: 363: 359: 354: 350: 347: 344: 342: 338: 334: 329: 325: 321: 317: 313: 309: 305: 301: 297: 293: 290: 289: 288: 287: 283: 279: 275: 267: 264: 262: 257: 251: 247: 244: 243: 242: 241: 240: 239: 235: 231: 227: 223: 219: 216: 212: 208: 205:Doesn't meet 198: 194: 191: 188: 184: 180: 176: 173: 170: 167: 164: 161: 158: 155: 152: 148: 145: 144:Find sources: 140: 136: 132: 129: 123: 119: 115: 111: 106: 102: 97: 93: 89: 85: 81: 80: 77: 74: 72: 71: 68: 61: 55: 51: 44: 42: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 679: 676: 653: 606: 589: 539: 518: 465: 450: 403: 374: 345: 291: 272: 260: 255: 245: 214: 204: 192: 186: 178: 171: 165: 159: 153: 143: 130: 54:No Consensus 53: 49: 47: 31: 28: 658:20 Massalia 527:Praemonitus 498:WP:NASTCRIT 478:WP:NASTCRIT 328:WP:MULTIAFD 292:Speedy Keep 169:free images 84:1316 Kasan 76:1316 Kasan 685:talk page 611:WP:NASTRO 474:WP:NASTRO 333:Andrew D. 320:preserves 316:WP:BEFORE 312:WP:NASTRO 296:WP:NASTRO 274:Davey2010 207:WP:NASTRO 37:talk page 687:or in a 575:Padenton 540:Redirect 519:Redirect 505:Padenton 484:. Also, 466:Redirect 379:wp:point 128:View log 39:or in a 637:Kheider 607:Comment 594:Kheider 523:WP:DWMP 430:Kheider 387:Kheider 375:Comment 346:Comment 308:WP:DWMP 175:WP refs 163:scholar 101:protect 96:history 619:Boleyn 615:WP:GNG 561:Boleyn 494:WP:AGF 482:WP:GNG 480:) and 412:Rpclod 404:Delete 358:Boleyn 353:CAT:NN 324:WP:ATD 278:Boleyn 230:Boleyn 222:Boleyn 211:WP:GNG 147:Google 105:delete 256:Davey 190:JSTOR 151:books 135:Stats 122:views 114:watch 110:links 59:Monty 16:< 666:talk 654:Keep 641:talk 623:talk 598:talk 590:Keep 548:talk 531:talk 521:per 472:per 434:talk 416:talk 391:talk 362:talk 337:talk 304:that 302:and 300:this 282:talk 261:2010 234:talk 226:talk 183:FENS 157:news 118:logs 92:talk 88:edit 50:keep 613:or 468:to 410:.-- 209:or 197:TWL 126:– ( 65:845 668:) 660:. 643:) 625:) 617:? 600:) 550:) 533:) 449:. 436:) 418:) 393:) 364:) 339:) 284:) 236:) 220:. 177:) 120:| 116:| 112:| 108:| 103:| 99:| 94:| 90:| 664:( 639:( 621:( 596:( 580:✉ 578:| 546:( 529:( 510:✉ 508:| 501:― 490:: 486:@ 432:( 414:( 389:( 360:( 335:( 280:( 232:( 224:( 201:) 193:· 187:· 179:· 172:· 166:· 160:· 154:· 149:( 141:( 138:) 131:· 124:) 86:(

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