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should disappear, though? That's a bit much. I've actually been using the "200 in Music" page to plan music purchases for about two years now, and haven't had a single problem with innaccurate information (In fact...if this page disappears, I will become an ex-user of Knowledge, as this is the only thing I come for.) Obviously, there is some ability for us to reasonably list future releases of music. CDs don't just appear out of nowhere...their release dates are planned, promoted, and scheduled.
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among other things. It doesn't make much sense to delete the article just to bring it back in a few days. WP:CRYSTAL doesn't appear to be a serious problem. The sources are not WP:RS quality, but they don't appear to be dubious either. This is a cleanup job. 2008 in music developed just like this. If
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I have no idea how to properly make Knowledge talk page edits, so perhaps someone can correct my formatting if this is all wrong, but I disagree with the above. It certainly seems that some of the entries on this article are unverifiable, wrong, etc. and should be deleted. To say the entire article
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Just strated checking more thoroughly and removing unverifiable content. Admittedly from starting at the end where the content is likely more dubious, but so far 16 of the 17 refs were invalid and removed. The article concept is not at dispute: when something of note happens in 2009 then add it, but
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in so many ways, this is it. A scan of the refs - particularly ones for releases with no exact date - shows blog entries (unreliable sources) and entries such as "album being worked on, hopefully released soon". One ref I saw is even dated 2007 suggesting a release by the end of that year.
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Ok, I've checked 2nd quarter forwards and virtually nothing was adequately referenced (2 remain). Far more worrying, I've also checked January (which should be trivial to reference now) and more than half the refs were invalid. This whole article is hugely problematic. Empty it and start
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Why delete it now when 2009 is only 3 weeks away and we would have to recreate it again. Most of the material on the list is confirmed to happen (although I haven't checked everything personally), so
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Two weeks yesterday (as I write) is New Year's Day 2009. So why delete the page for the music of next year?
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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doesn't apply to sourced speculation, which this is. Meticulously sourced, in fact.
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As noted above, virtually none of the refs checked so far stands up to scrutiny.
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2008 is any guide, we'll have historic facts by the first week in January.
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WTF? 2008 is almost over, and there's no reason to delete this article.
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can all be sourced verifiably, at least, so why not for all genres?
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Knowledge:Articles for deletion
deletion review
talk
contribs
19:25, 22 December 2008 (UTC)
2009 in music
2009 in music
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
WP:CRYSTAL
WP:V
WP:NOT#NEWS
Ros0709
talk
21:00, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
unsigned
65.240.152.5
talk
21:22, 18 December 2008 (UTC)
2009 in country music
Ten Pound Hammer

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