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there are 16 articles. Furthermore, your position is that these are articles are individually notable and individually suitable for inclusion; demanding a mass AfD for 16 different game articles is logically incoherent with that position. If you really believe that this game article, and the other 15 articles pending at AfD, are individually notable and suitable for inclusions, I urge you to review the guidelines that I have linked above, and start making actual arguments for the notability and suitability of the individual articles, instead of raising out-of-order procedural objections.
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AfD procedure. As I have said before, bundled multi-article AfDs often lead to no-consensus outcomes because AfD discussion participants desire different outcomes for different articles included, and the AfD discussion becomes hopelessly confused when it includes multiple articles -- especially when
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Paul, ss far as I know there is no procedure for combining AfDs after they have been filed, and I object to your proposal to combine these AfDs as procedurally out of order. It's the AfD nominator's prerogative to nominate articles individually or in a bundled manner. In my experience, invariably
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We've had these debates many times before, Paul. Exceeding WP:ROUTINE for a Division I college football game means more than typical post-game coverage. It means lasting coverage -- we have deleted single-game articles in the past with more and better coverage than this one. By the standard you
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See answers at other current game AFD discussions. I've spent over 20 minutes this morning typing and editing and it's the same argument over and over. Even the nomination is cut and pasted, and so are many of the
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suggest, virtually every Division I college football regular season game would pass GNG. That's not how ROUTINE has been interpreted. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:44, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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per above. This is just another routine game. One of hundreds played in college football each year, and just one of many thousands played in all of sports.
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the fairest way is to to nominate articles for AfD individually, and to judge each and every individual article on its individual merits, and that is the
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between the two teams. THis game also had an exciting finish as Texas A&M nearly came back from a 21-point deficit falling short losing 49-42.
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This game was #23 on ESPN's list of the top 25 college football games of 2013. It seems that that would count as coverage beyond the routine. --
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and responses are being cut and pasted. These topics should be combined before further discussion and certainly before closing the issue.--
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post-game coverage of typical individual games. Pursuant to established precedents and the consensus of
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and incorporate content to the specific 2013 Alabama/Texas A&M season articles where applicable.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Here's a reading list of the applicable notability guidelines for interested editors:
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Individual regular season college football games are not inherently notable per
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with feature articles in independent sources from multiple outlets.--
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Lots of pre-game build up around this game especially after
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may be better covered as part of another article, if at all
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not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia
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list of American football-related deletion discussions
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There is nothing notable about this game other than
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most newsworthy events do not qualify for inclusion
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