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propose a bundled, multi-article AfD. Invariably, the fairest way is to to nominate articles individually, and to judge each and every individual article on its individual merits, and that is the normal AfD procedure. Moreover, many of these articles have nothing in common except for the fact that their subjects are all regular season college football games. As I have said before, multi-article AfDs often lead to no-consensus outcomes because AfD discussion participants desire different outcomes for different articles included, and the AfD discussion becomes hopelessly confused when it includes multiple articles. Furthermore, your position is that these are articles are individually notable and individually suitable for inclusion; demanding a mass AfD for 16 different game articles is logically inconsistent with that position. If you really believe that this game article, and the other 15 articles pending at AfD, are individually notable and suitable, I urge you to review the guidelines that I have linked above, and start making actual arguments for the notability and suitability of the individual articles, instead of raising out-of-order procedural objections and demands.
629:: "Although notability is not temporary, meaning that coverage does not need to be ongoing for notability to be established, a burst or spike of news reports does not automatically make an incident notable. Events that are only covered in sources published during or immediately after an event, without further analysis or discussion, are likely not suitable for an encyclopedia article." (Credit User:Bagumba for point No. 5; I learned something new today.) 220:, individual regular season games should of some historical significance for a stand-alone article. Articles regarding individual regular season games are disfavored and discouraged; content regarding such individual regular season games should be incorporated into a parent article about the game series (see, e.g., 687:
Paul, it's the AfD nominator's prerogative to nominate articles individually or in a bundled manner; as far as I know there is no procedure for combining AfDs after they have been filed, and I object to any attempt to combine these AfDs as procedurally out of order. Only rarely does it make sense to
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We've had these debates many times before, Paul. Exceeding WP:ROUTINE for a Division I college football game means more than typical post-game coverage. It means lasting coverage -- we have deleted single-game articles in the past with more and better coverage than this one. By the standard you
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post-game coverage of individual games in the series. Preseason kickoff games are not bowl games or playoff games; they are regular season games and merit no special consideration. Furthermore, pursuant to established precedents and the consensus of
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suggest, virtually every Division I college football regular season game would pass GNG. That's not how ROUTINE has been interpreted. Dirtlawyer1 (talk) 04:44, 9 October 2014 (UTC)
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as per nominator, there is nothing about this game that gives inherent notability, and the coverage in reliable secondary sources is par for the course for a regular season game.
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and responses are being cut and pasted. These topics should be combined before further discussion and certainly before closing the issue.--
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per nom. Please note that articles for individual Chick-fil-A Kickoff Games have also been nominated for deletion.
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Individual regular season college football kickoff games are not inherently notable per
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The single source given in the article far surpasses the standard set in
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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may be better covered as part of another article, if at all
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not a sufficient basis for inclusion in the encyclopedia
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should also have an individual article for each game.
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There is nothing notable about this game other than
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Please list where we've had these debates before.--
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