390:
page is also tiny (8.2kb) but uses 2.5 full pages of text on my monitor. That's why I called it "bulky." I suspect 99% of the people looking at the main article don't care about the qualifying rounds. We should not force them to scroll/page down for 2.5 pages to get to the main article content. We
348:
page? It's tiny as wiki pages go and can easily accept the qualifying draw below it as a separate section. I agree that the qualifying is notable but the guidelines do not say it deserves a separate article only that it should be "included" in the draw article. There is no reason this should be
152:
330:
which allows for articles on qualifying rounds for ATP World Tour events. The problem with merging is that these articles are fairly bulky in terms of screen space meaning the merged article gets difficult to navigate.
86:
81:
90:
146:
73:
395:
strongly discouraged hidden content as it won't show up when you print the article, etc. I can't see anything in WP:MOS about this at the moment. Thus I was leaning towards keep rather than merge. --
113:
191:
77:
434:
382:
69:
61:
327:
167:
437:
on the wikiproject tennis talk page to see if there's resistance to updating their article guidelines. Also, I found the MOS section I was thinking of earlier at
134:
199:
467:
453:
417:
403:
358:
339:
308:
279:
252:
238:
214:
55:
183:
Is this notable? It's only referenced to a PDF, couldn't this be merged to the main article? I think that would work better. If not, why not delete it?
266:, and as a note to the nominator; if you think the primary action should be a merge, then you could have initiated a discussion on the article page or
225:- I oppose only the deletion of the info. Per Tennis Project guidelines this draw is notable. However it really should be merged to the bottom of the
128:
124:
243:
You can't delete an article once it's been merged – it needs to stay undeleted (generally in the form of a redirect) to provide attribution.
426:
364:
345:
263:
226:
174:
47:
189:
140:
17:
492:
36:
491:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
35:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
463:
354:
234:
229:
page as I see no reason why it needs it's own article. Once merged then I would agree to delete this page.
450:
400:
336:
304:
386:" which seems to be an appropriate amount of screen real estate for this part of the tournament. The
187:
160:
459:
433:) which is also the result if we merged this content. In looking this over I'd say it's fine and
350:
230:
248:
210:
29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
446:
396:
332:
300:
289:
184:
52:
413:
275:
267:
392:
442:
244:
206:
408:
Then the answer is to move the less important content to later in the article. --
107:
438:
292:
to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
409:
367:
is tiny at 18.7kb. If we keep the page in top-down chronological order then
349:
separated and it should have simply been merged instead of discussing here.
271:
485:
The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
391:
could use one of those show/hide blocks but I thought the
328:
Knowledge:WikiProject Tennis/Article
Guidelines#Notability
430:
103:
99:
95:
159:
299:Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,
39:). No further edits should be made to this page.
495:). No further edits should be made to this page.
173:
8:
198:Note: This debate has been included in the
270:merged it rather than taking it to AFD. --
200:list of Sports-related deletion discussions
383:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles Qualifying
197:
70:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles Qualifying
62:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles Qualifying
7:
60:
24:
429:to include the qualifying draw (
427:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles
365:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles
346:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles
264:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles
227:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles
48:2011 Rogers Cup – Men's Singles
18:Knowledge:Articles for deletion
379:in the main article just has "
1:
468:01:12, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
454:01:06, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
418:23:52, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
404:23:37, 8 September 2011 (UTC)
359:19:30, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
340:18:50, 7 September 2011 (UTC)
309:01:04, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
253:01:10, 2 September 2011 (UTC)
56:22:37, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
363:From a computing standpoint
458:On first glance I like it!
280:14:22, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
239:06:36, 29 August 2011 (UTC)
215:19:14, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
192:17:09, 26 August 2011 (UTC)
512:
488:Please do not modify it.
32:Please do not modify it.
375:section. At present
344:Have you seen the
44:The result was
311:
217:
203:
503:
490:
298:
294:
204:
178:
177:
163:
111:
93:
34:
511:
510:
506:
505:
504:
502:
501:
500:
499:
493:deletion review
486:
371:goes above the
287:
120:
84:
68:
65:
37:deletion review
30:
22:
21:
20:
12:
11:
5:
509:
507:
498:
497:
481:
480:
479:
478:
477:
476:
475:
474:
473:
472:
471:
470:
435:added a notice
381:Main article:
314:
313:
312:
296:
295:
284:
283:
282:
257:
256:
255:
219:
218:
181:
180:
117:
64:
59:
42:
41:
25:
23:
15:
14:
13:
10:
9:
6:
4:
3:
2:
508:
496:
494:
489:
483:
482:
469:
465:
461:
460:Fyunck(click)
457:
456:
455:
452:
448:
444:
440:
436:
432:
428:
424:
421:
420:
419:
415:
411:
407:
406:
405:
402:
398:
394:
389:
385:
384:
378:
374:
370:
366:
362:
361:
360:
356:
352:
351:Fyunck(click)
347:
343:
342:
341:
338:
334:
329:
325:
321:
320:
316:
315:
310:
306:
302:
297:
293:
291:
286:
285:
281:
277:
273:
269:
265:
261:
258:
254:
250:
246:
242:
241:
240:
236:
232:
231:Fyunck(click)
228:
224:
221:
220:
216:
212:
208:
201:
196:
195:
194:
193:
190:
188:
186:
176:
172:
169:
166:
162:
158:
154:
151:
148:
145:
142:
139:
136:
133:
130:
126:
123:
122:Find sources:
118:
115:
109:
105:
101:
97:
92:
88:
83:
79:
75:
71:
67:
66:
63:
58:
57:
54:
50:
49:
40:
38:
33:
27:
26:
19:
487:
484:
443:MOS:COLLAPSE
425:- I updated
422:
387:
380:
376:
372:
368:
323:
322:(changed to
318:
317:
288:
259:
222:
182:
170:
164:
156:
149:
143:
137:
131:
121:
45:
43:
31:
28:
447:Marc Kupper
397:Marc Kupper
333:Marc Kupper
324:merge below
301:Ron Ritzman
147:free images
439:MOS:SCROLL
388:Qualifying
377:Qualifying
369:Qualifying
185:Nathan2055
53:Courcelles
431:permalink
373:Main draw
207:• Gene93k
46:merge to
290:Relisted
114:View log
245:Jenks24
153:WP refs
141:scholar
87:protect
82:history
393:WP:MOS
326:) per
268:boldly
223:Oppose
125:Google
91:delete
423:Merge
260:Merge
168:JSTOR
129:books
108:views
100:watch
96:links
16:<
464:talk
451:talk
445:. --
414:talk
410:Whpq
401:talk
355:talk
337:talk
319:Keep
305:talk
276:talk
272:Whpq
249:talk
235:talk
211:talk
161:FENS
135:news
104:logs
78:talk
74:edit
262:to
175:TWL
112:– (
466:)
441:/
416:)
357:)
331:--
307:)
278:)
251:)
237:)
213:)
205:—
202:.
155:)
106:|
102:|
98:|
94:|
89:|
85:|
80:|
76:|
51:.
462:(
449:|
412:(
399:|
353:(
335:|
303:(
274:(
247:(
233:(
209:(
179:)
171:·
165:·
157:·
150:·
144:·
138:·
132:·
127:(
119:(
116:)
110:)
72:(
Text is available under the Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License. Additional terms may apply.