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performance of the under17 team in this competition is important for the world cup. Secondly, it is also true that the tournament has received much media attention, and has been promoted a lot by the AIFF. Keeping all this in mind, I feel that this page will be of much interest to readers who are excited about the u17 world cup and are developing an interest in following the Indian u17 team. Thus, I propose that the page be let to exist as of now, and be deleted at a later stage if it becomes only a one time event. Cheers
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then. Currently, I believe it is a pretty relevant topic for Indian football and specially the u17 team I mean, to delete an article just because it might not take place in the future seems a bit unfair. Anyhow, I really do not have any more points to add. I feel, I have presented my case, as the creator of the article. The whole intent of creating this article was to provide those interested in the event a proper read. Now, it's entirely upto you guys if you want to delete it. Cheers
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Also the coverage is nothing special honestly. There are some papers about how this is the first test for the under-17 side but most of the reports are from the AIFF and US and Indian soccer/football blogs mixed in and a few press releases and match reports. Nothing really substantial that, in my opinion, call for an article under GNG. So I guess this is me contesting your
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and is a quick tournament set-up just to give practice to the Indian players before the AFC U16 Championships and the U17 World Cup, for which will be their first time. None of the players in the tournament are even notable as well (thus why competitions for the under-14s do not exist for example).
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Okay... either way, this does not pass GNG. This tournament has only gotten the same amount of coverage that say the I-League U15 league got. Of course national papers such as the Times of India will pick it up, esspecially their local versions, but there is no extensive coverage, not many details
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