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My point is that you saw that the article lacked citations, yet your statements imply that you didn't search for any sources yourself. If you had shown clearly that you had, then I would not be opposed to deletion as there would be evidence to support your argument. As it is however, you have made no
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at the very least it was reviewed by three UK newstand magazines; PC Zone, PC Format and PC Gamer. That's multiple instances of reliable non-trivial coverage, notability is covered. The first of which was reprinted online at
Computer and Video Games and is now cited, the existing text is also cited,
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And if I tell you that I did perform a cursory search, would you not argue that perhaps I have not looked hard enough? Let's stick to the policy my friend: Notability requires evidence! There is no
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But really, do you want me to assume that in the face of such intelligence that you employed to write those words, you never thought for a moment: "But into what article FleetCommand must have merged 7 Sins, if she was an honest
Wikipedian?" No! You are smarter to not have considered that. Hence, I
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The GameSpot page is an aggregate of critic's scores. It shows the publication dates of the three magazines. I'm not sure if they are archived online anywhere, so someone who has access to the print versions will have to summarize the reviews in the article; this is what the VG wikiproject is for.
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bad faith nomination. The nominator says: "Because I didn't nominated it because of being unnotable. I nominated it because it does not assert notability. Notability must be claimed with evidence. Fleet
Command (talk) 05:18, 6 March 2010 (UTC)" AFD is not cleanup. If you believe it is notable,
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As for assuming good faith: It is an expression which is abused a lot, both in and out of
Knowledge (XXG). Hence, faith tends to waver in face of lack of supporting evidence. Therefore, please kindly considering reinforcing my wavering one.
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First, no, they aren't cited. Second, they must be checked individually and cited in the article. I didn't nominated this article because it doesn't have Google hits. I nominated it because it lacks evidence of notability as required by
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PC Gamer UK, Aug 1st 2005; PC Zone UK, Sep 1st 2005; PC Format UK, Aug 1st 2005. Not sure why you can't see this on the page. In addition, there is the C&VG review, which is reproduced entirely on their website.
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Generally, yes. But in this particular case, no. No professional review is included. And no, it does not show any publications. At least I see none. Perhaps you see something that I do not see?
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then you leave it be. If you think something should be added, then do so yourself. There seems to be adequate coverage of the game found by others in this AFD, to establish its notability.
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However, for notability, it's enough that the game has received this coverage (and GameSpot is a reliable source for this) - the rest is just details to be filled in later. Please
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The tiny list is not the coverage. The coverage is four reviews in print magazines from reputable publishers. The tiny list tells you which issues to look at. Yes, I have nerves.
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You meant that tiny list all along? It is millions of lightyears far from establishing notability for the subject of the article. Really, you have the nerves!
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Excuse me? Your "PC Format" source is turns out a GameSpot without a review! You have claimed 4 reviews but 3 of them failed verifiability per
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