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transforms, number base conversion from and to decimal, binary, octal, hexadecimal, and more. "Google
Calculator" servers do not "search" for the answer on the World Wide Web. Instead, "Google Calculator" servers perform calculations, after they "understand" (through contextual analysis) the mathematical expression given by the user, and they send the result directly to the user. In other words, the "Google Calculator" is not "Google Search", even though both are accessed via the Google search box. This article deals with the "Google Calculator", not with "Google Search". Conflating the two is misleading.
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are notable in the field of online calculators, and nobody disputes that fact, then any product or service that competes with them on features, is by definition also notable in the field. The article attempts to provide that needed balance, by showing how the contenders compare on features. However,
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