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problem-solving. This model offers a new way of looking at such tactics, so they can be applied in everyday settings. Conflict
Unraveled fits the tactics of Bevel and Nash into the continuum to illuminate those tactics. It presents new, practical ways that everyday people can make use of brilliant tactics of the past. This element can be verified by Dr. Lieberman's review.
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Widefox, your behavior here is really beginning to cross the line. Have you been telling Amedea that she cannot edit particular articles? Are you continuing to do so? Your grasp of policy is questionable. Blatant advertising qualifies for speedy deletion, like "BUY EXTENZENOW YOU BE BIGGER WE PROMISE
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It would take a good deal of work to update this article, and apparently I am precluded from doing it. For instance, I do not now work for the
University of Chicago and am no longer in academia. These days I work with lawyers and judges; my latest project was released by the American Bar Association.
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Actually, I thought we'd agreed that the article would involve other models. A termination point was that Mr. Rawland's existing article had no source that met
Knowledge (XXG) guidelines. Elise Boulding has a conflict continuum, and she has a biographical Knowledge (XXG) article. J. W. Keltner
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Some of the private advice was for me to tuck and run, but that didn’t seem quite decent. Basically I tried textbook technique in the cyber-world. Instead of an exhausting mess, the whole thing deflated pretty quickly. Now we can get back to the boring work of seeing if Mr. Rawland’s article fits.
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There’s a real concern about the ability of an anonymous user to impugn a professional reputation, even in an international setting. Some of my colleague’s are involved in the fight over cyber-bullying, and were following as this played out. After all, clean outcomes are scarce. As tags were flying,
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from editing. OK, now show me where I've said Amedea should not edit particular articles! I have correctly stated COI all along. I would appreciate you correct those assertion above with your findings. Pointing out that sources are the solution is not disruption but crucial for notability, pertinent
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advises caution when editing; it is not a prohibition. The article is under discussion for deletion. Seeing as you think it should be deleted, it is difficult to assume good faith when you edit the article while the discussion is going on. Other editors are trying to improve the article such that it
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I am trying to build an article talking about "conflict continuum". I do not have access to the book by Medea so can not comment on it. I have never claimed to have a reference to any 'theory by Medea'. Just trying to be positive.... I suppose it is a bit of an inclusionist/deletionist discussion.
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So my colleagues have been watching as I was painted increasingly as a self-serving climber. Not the most comfortable feeling. Perhaps the single weirdest move was when the discussion history was altered on the article page, removing my requests for guidance. Now, I have no idea what’s allowable in
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Hit number 1: "A mutualism-parasitism continuum model and its application to plant-mycorrhizae interactions." Number 2: "… sexual selection in external fertilizers: variances in male and female fertilization success along the continuum from sperm limitation to sexual conflict in the sea urchin …"
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Now, I do object to an unsavory tone in the discussion. I appreciate your need to be vigilant against self-serving interests. You clearly are committed to high quality in
Knowledge (XXG), which is no small endeavor in an often anonymous, international project. Knowledge (XXG) is an accomplishment,
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The author of the article was Frank
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However, the sections from Mr. Rawland's original article need an online source. Conflict
Unraveled is out. However, the same full continuum is laid out in Going Home w/o Going Crazy, pages 32 & 33. Page 33 shows the source as Conflict Unraveled, which makes the Going Home book a secondary
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Ariconte, it's possible your approach could work. An expanded lead could cover other conflict continuum models, which would clear some confusion. This is my field, so I have the information. Perhaps I could submit material to a disinterested third party, rather than posting myself. That should
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From my perspective, some of the great conflict tacticians were two of the strategists behind some of Dr. Martin Luther King’s non-violent campaigns, Diane Nash and the Rev. James Bevel. Dr. King’s non-violent movement is today seen more as a historic event, rather than a source of practical
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Please do not tell me "ok, good. glad we are starting to agree". It is very hard not to see this as a editor vs editor argument. I am trying to find secondary sources --- I am unwilling to work much harder at it. I perceive the two editors on the negative side have made little effort to be
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I'm not sure how strict you have searched? Google books ("Conflict
Continuum" Medea) gives 32 hits, only 1 with all terms, which is by Andra Medea . I do not find a single secondary source. If they exist please add to the article, as required to establish notability. Currently it fails
754:. OK, I change my ' vote.' It’s easy to see where notability would be confusing. This may be an unfamiliar field, and it appears people are searching for verification through web sources. Material in this field is not always available online. Anyway, here is a case for notability.
422:, A Yahoo search finds 163 results for "Conflict Continuum Andra Media" all secondary sources which reference the book and theory including an interview on Chicago Public Radio. This definitely establishes notability. There is no justification for the call to delete this article.
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Meanwhile, is there some other completely separate topic that would disqualify the article? BTW, I have no intention of making direct changes, and would only write under the supervision of an editor. I want to stay far away from any question of conflict of interest.
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Because of the nature of this debate, I believe fair use will allow me to temporarily display a full, uncut review by Dr. E. James
Lieberman, Clinical Psychology Professor at George Washington University, writing in Foreword Magazine. You can read the full review
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Please to to Amazon.com and find Going Home without Going Crazy, from New Harbinger Publications. Use the Look inside feature to bring up pages 32 & 33. There's the conflict continuum. At the bottom of page 33 it's sourced to Conflict Unraveled.
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However, all this can be done in a neutral manner without casting aspersions. If you expect contributors to adhere to high standards, then it’s equally fair that we can expect you to assess that work in a professional and fair-minded fashion.
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on Yahoo I get 164 hits, of the first 5 pages that I looked at none were valid references. The best hit was Chicago Public Radio which is an interview with Andra Medea. I repeat, I have found no secondary sources, and none are listed above.
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Please note that while this is an academic source, I do not wish to get into questions of academic standards. These days I’m more comfortable with legal standards of proof. You might say that I present Dr. Lieberman as an expert
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It is clear that editors are attempting to create a different article with the same name the notability of which would not be attached to Medea's theory. I am doubtful that they will be able to succeed (we already have
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I believe Dr. Lieberman at the time was chair of his department. In any case he is now retired, so if you search their current directory he may not be there. However, there should be some way to verify his emeritus
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Furlong, K. Hidden theories, troubled waters: International relations, the ‘territorial trap’, and the Southern African Development Community's transboundary waters. Political Geography v. 25 no. 4 (May 2006) p.
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Ariconte, thank you for stepping forward. You were experimenting and problem-solving in an unpleasant atmosphere. That takes nerve, and few people would have done it. Perhaps we’ll sort out that article yet.
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2. Due to other strong reviews, Conflict Unraveled is widely available in public and university libraries. A WorldCat search reveals that it’s currently held in 207 libraries. It’s out and being used by the
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1. Reviews for Conflict Unraveled were excellent. Reviews do not always stay posted to the web. Fair use guidelines forbids reprinting extended quotes, which is why reviews often look suspiciously choppy.
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Since New Harbinger saw fit to bring this model to their audience as well, I believe this meets the standard for notability. On page 2 you can see that an editor approached me with the commission.
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Widefox, there was an earlier comment that you were using tags in a punitive manner. This is starting to cross into cyber-bullying. Perhaps it's best that you recuse yourself from this discussion.
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Looking over the guidelines, I believe this meets the definition of a secondary source from an established publisher. The guidelines don't mention different authors, but specify sequential use.
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positive. I don't think Ms. Medea understands the problem. I will now delete all these discussions from my watchlist... and go out to a property here in NSW and do a bit of farm work. Goodby,
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turns up nothing by Andra Medea on this subject, suggesting that it has not made it into peer reviewed venues. It certainly doesn't seem to have been discussed widely enough to be notable. The
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I tried looking at those references to no avail. Please list which of these references actually refer to this theory by Andra Medea, rather than just being google hits for a couple of words.
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Well, I have no idea if Mr. Rawland’s article has the proverbial snowball’s chance. I’m still murky on Knowledge (XXG) protocols, although I do have a different approach I'd like to try.
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no longer warrants deletion. I think they have a snowball's chance in hell, but that doesn't mean that you are empowered to speak for the community and disrupt their efforts.
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turns up lots of hits about 'conflict continuum models' which is what I took the page to be about. Please see the articles talk page for a suggested solution. Regards,
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with which Medea's book is published seems to publish just that book; I smell vanity publication. The article calls her a "University of Chicago educator," but
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Kanavou, A. A. How Peace Agreements Are Derailed: The Evolution of Values in Cyprus, 1959-74. Journal of Peace Research v. 43 no. 3 (May 2006) p. 279-96
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RJC, as soon as it was clear that a line had been crossed, you asserted yourself promptly. That was clean and clear, very well handled.
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Muro, D. The politics of war memory in radical Basque nationalism. Ethnic and Racial Studies v. 32 no. 4 (May 2009) p. 659-78
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