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322:. The real problem with this article is its first sentence, the article would be improved if it were replaced by "A constant is a number which is frequently referred two by a name related to a formula or equation which references it." And that's a really bad sentence. The problem is that the concept is so intuitively clear that it's hard to find a verbal way of expressing the idea. But just because fixing a problem in an article is difficult doesn't mean we should give up and delete the article. 160:, which is what I think that you three guys have been talking about on the article's talk page. Most of the recent edits have been done by the three of you, though there have been some minor edits for form, and some vandalism that is being policed appropriately. I hope that you can accomplish the merger smoothly, then do the appropriate redirect. 135:"I have not really thought about it, but it might be best to have a disambiguation page here instead of an essay "constant" about concepts that are not really that related to eachother. Some constants are defined, others are mathematics, others are measured, etcetera. /Pieter Kuiper (talk) 23:53, 10 December 2007 (UTC)" 177:
on procedural grounds: AfD is not the appropriate forum for this discussion. No-one's suggesting that if someone types "constant" into the search box and presses return they should only get a page of search results. The argument is not over whether there should be an page on "Constant" but whether it
138:""I really do think that the scientific concept of a constant can be dealt with as a whole". Here we clearly disagree; I think the various notions that are called "constant" are too diverse and disparate to be amenable to a meaningful joint treatment. --Lambiam 13:12, 11 December 2007 (UTC)" 442:
which is just a list. Adding some explanation to the individual constants gives a lot more context, whereas the list only fits the needs of mathematicians who already know what these constants are. --
486:- or merge or rename or refactor or whatever - but why is this even on AfD when (almost) no-one is suggesting that this page or its contents should actually be *deleted* ?? 125: 132:
Two users have expressed their doubts (see talk page or below) as to the legitimacy of the existence of this article. Also, I think this article may need to be deleted.
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page. The question seems to be over whether to merge and if so whether the page should be a full article or a disambig. Suggest you read and follow
285: 364:"wasting AFD's time", that's nice of you. As you can see, the issue isn't that trivial. Indeed, I would have gone for redirecting the 17: 372:, but out of the 6 who have replied (not counting you), only 2 have proposed merging, which isn't an overwhelming majority. I think 518: 410: 473: 327: 215:. Whether the dab page should be moved here, or a redirect made to it, or whatever, is (as Qwfp says) another question. 92: 87: 535: 36: 96: 233: 179: 79: 534:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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or into the articles about the different constants listed there, if he wants to. As I suggested on
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Most of it does appear to be in the linked articles; the only omission I can see is the claim from
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Ok, I'll redirect the article to disambig page and merge content to mathematical constant
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should be a disambiguation page or an article. There's already a separate
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with Mathematical Constant. This should definitely not be deleted.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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article to the disambiguation page and merge the article in
413:), who created this article. He can merge the content into 277:, and it's at AfD. I have no opinion here other than that.- 120: 109: 105: 101: 254:about Apery's constant and the gyromagnetic ratio. 380:doing anything that doesn't please the community! 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 538:). No further edits should be made to this page. 8: 303:, as an antonym, would be one possibility. 399:. I do not understand the nomination by 337:Censure nominator for wasting AFD's time 299:than anything else; but a redirect to 213:indiscrimate collection of information 236:should then get moved to this title. 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 438:generally I prefer this article to 24: 1: 521:) 12:41, March 11, 2008 (UTC) 555: 496:10:40, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 62:13:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC) 52:, redirect to disambig. -- 503:How do I close this AfD? 479:23:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 452:21:08, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 431:18:48, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 390:13:46, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 376:should be reached before 357:13:20, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 332:02:30, 9 March 2008 (UTC) 313:22:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 291:17:37, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 264:22:36, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 246:16:40, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 234:constant (disambiguation) 225:16:06, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 200:10:13, 8 March 2008 (UTC) 180:Constant (disambiguation) 170:22:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC) 148:22:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC) 531:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 440:Mathematical constant 415:mathematical constant 370:mathematical constant 295:That says more about 211:, if requested) this 158:Mathematical constant 50:Mathematical constant 230:Either keep or merge 324:Minos P. Dautrieve 44:The result was 522: 509:comment added by 311: 262: 223: 546: 533: 504: 469: 466: 463: 307: 258: 219: 123: 117: 99: 34: 554: 553: 549: 548: 547: 545: 544: 543: 542: 536:deletion review 529: 476: 467: 464: 461: 378:I waste my time 305:Septentrionalis 289: 286:r e s e a r c h 256:Septentrionalis 217:Septentrionalis 119: 90: 74: 71: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 552: 550: 541: 540: 524: 523: 498: 481: 474: 454: 433: 394: 393: 392: 334: 317: 316: 315: 283: 268: 267: 266: 227: 202: 172: 130: 129: 70: 65: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 551: 539: 537: 532: 526: 525: 520: 516: 512: 508: 502: 499: 497: 493: 489: 485: 482: 480: 477: 472: 470: 458: 455: 453: 449: 445: 441: 437: 434: 432: 428: 424: 423:Pieter Kuiper 420: 419:talk:constant 416: 412: 409: 406: 402: 398: 395: 391: 387: 383: 379: 375: 371: 367: 363: 360: 359: 358: 354: 350: 346: 342: 338: 335: 333: 329: 325: 321: 318: 314: 310: 306: 302: 298: 294: 293: 292: 288: 287: 282: 281: 276: 275:vital article 272: 269: 265: 261: 257: 253: 249: 248: 247: 243: 239: 238:Michael Hardy 235: 231: 228: 226: 222: 218: 214: 210: 206: 203: 201: 197: 193: 189: 185: 181: 176: 173: 171: 167: 163: 159: 155: 152: 151: 150: 149: 145: 141: 136: 133: 127: 122: 115: 111: 107: 103: 98: 94: 89: 85: 81: 77: 73: 72: 69: 66: 64: 63: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 530: 527: 500: 483: 456: 435: 407: 396: 377: 373: 361: 349:David Gerard 340: 336: 319: 284: 278: 270: 229: 208: 204: 174: 153: 137: 134: 131: 45: 43: 31: 28: 505:—Preceding 436:Split/merge 345:WP:BOLDness 188:WP:DISAMBIG 175:Speedy keep 511:Randomblue 444:Salix alba 401:Randomblue 382:Randomblue 309:PMAnderson 260:PMAnderson 221:PMAnderson 140:Randomblue 54:Salix alba 488:Gandalf61 374:consensus 273:. It's a 162:Mandsford 519:contribs 507:unsigned 411:contribs 366:constant 362:Response 341:deletion 301:Variable 184:WP:merge 126:View log 76:Constant 68:Constant 397:Comment 271:Comment 209:userify 93:protect 88:history 205:Delete 121:delete 97:delete 457:Merge 297:WP:VA 280:h i s 154:Merge 124:) – ( 114:views 106:watch 102:links 46:merge 16:< 515:talk 492:talk 484:Keep 475:adds 448:talk 427:talk 405:talk 386:talk 353:talk 328:talk 320:Keep 252:here 242:talk 207:(or 196:talk 192:Qwfp 186:and 166:talk 144:talk 110:logs 84:talk 80:edit 58:talk 468:noy 465:ela 462:J.d 156:to 48:to 517:• 494:) 450:) 429:) 388:) 355:) 347:- 330:) 244:) 198:) 190:. 168:) 146:) 112:| 108:| 104:| 100:| 95:| 91:| 86:| 82:| 60:) 513:( 490:( 446:( 425:( 408:· 403:( 384:( 351:( 326:( 240:( 194:( 164:( 142:( 128:) 118:( 116:) 78:( 56:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Mathematical constant
Salix alba
talk
13:11, 11 March 2008 (UTC)
Constant
Constant
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Randomblue
talk
22:06, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Mathematical constant
Mandsford
talk
22:25, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
Constant (disambiguation)
WP:merge
WP:DISAMBIG
Qwfp

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