720:. While I think such a list or template could be useful, a country recognized internationally can not be inherently controversial. On the other hand, there are clearly related articles dealing with critics of Israel, its foreign policy, and Zionism. Furthermore, I do not think the consensus here is that WP:ATTACK would apply to a nation or concept; we typically only cite it for BLPs or institutions.
662:—the article, like the template that was created at the same time, is inherently WP:OR and WP:NPOV, not to mention WP:ATTACK. What are the inclusion criteria? Why does there need to be a list of controversies related to an entire nation? "Articles" like this must be removed immediately from Knowledge (XXG), and I believe it even fits WP:CSD as an attack page. —
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Shabazz. I'm not convinced that an article of this kind is an unsalveagable coat-racking attack job. Let's face it: Israel is a controversial country. But the qualification criterion for inclusion on this list - "controversial" - makes the inclusion of material almost impossible to
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