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720:. While I think such a list or template could be useful, a country recognized internationally can not be inherently controversial. On the other hand, there are clearly related articles dealing with critics of Israel, its foreign policy, and Zionism. Furthermore, I do not think the consensus here is that WP:ATTACK would apply to a nation or concept; we typically only cite it for BLPs or institutions. 662:—the article, like the template that was created at the same time, is inherently WP:OR and WP:NPOV, not to mention WP:ATTACK. What are the inclusion criteria? Why does there need to be a list of controversies related to an entire nation? "Articles" like this must be removed immediately from Knowledge (XXG), and I believe it even fits WP:CSD as an attack page. — 638:. If it has not be been published anywhere else, and there is no evidence that it is verifiable, let alone notable list topic, then there is no rationale for inclusion. To demonstrate that this topic was not created based on editor's own whim, a verifiable definition is needed to provide external validation that this list complies with 324: 561:
per Tarc and Malik Shabazz. I'm not convinced that an article of this kind is an unsalveagable coat-racking attack job. Let's face it: Israel is a controversial country. But the qualification criterion for inclusion on this list - "controversial" - makes the inclusion of material almost impossible to
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How about calling it notable aspects about Israel which have gotten a lot of negative press? Or Knowledge (XXG) articles concerning aspects that have gotten much negative press, thus making them controversies?
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as this list topic or a definition for this list appears to have not been published anywhere else other than Knowledge (XXG), as it does not have a verifiable definition and contravenes the prohibition on
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How is it pointy to list all the controversies Israel has been involved in, in one place so its easy to find one's way to the various Knowledge (XXG) articles about all of these things?
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Everything listed can be found in news articles with the word "controversy". The first thing on the list has three major news papers which talk of it, easily found.
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As usual, the ARS misses the point by carping about sources. This is a poorly-conceived synthesis of criticisms that seems a little
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If there are news sources and books published calling each item on the list a controversy, then isn't that enough?
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Look at those article summaries please. Is there anything on this list you don't believe is controversial?
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per above. This list is at best useless (per Malik), at worst a POV-push (per Avi and Yossiea).
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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POV pushing and coatrack. Editor created similar template for same POV reason. Please see
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verify. Open to changing my mind if someone can produce something better out of this. --
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is still evolving; it has been more strictly interpreted than it was 3 years ago.
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WP:NPOV, WP:COATRACK, violates WP:LISTS by not having a lede, and many more.
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does not exactly apply either. So you have a really hard case here.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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Since everything related to Israel is controversial to
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