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222:- If no independent sources can be found then the article should not exist; however, I'm a little sceptical about the nominator's insistence that "there are no independent reliable sources" if this is intended to mean that none exist at all. (If all it means is that none are in the article, no problem). I'd be cautious about bands from non-English speaking nations; such sources may be hard to find online especially in an English-language Google search). 253:
should represent practically did not exist in Slovenia at that time or was listened to only in narrow, almost chosen circles. A realization of such a project is difficult so it was natural for us to contact foreign labels, especially the German ones, which are considered to be the main ones for this
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References can be found to support what is written currently. That's pretty scarce and does not make for a decent article. I have not been able to find more coverage neither in English nor in Slovene to confirm the band's notability. This seems suspect to me as it is in general not hard to find
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That's what Katrin Radman (the singer) said about publishing abroad: "In the beginning of 1990s it was almost impossible to expect to be even listened by any domestic label yet even be published. The genre we have envisioned the project
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If that is indeed the case, there should be independent, third party sources stating this... I see no such citation in this article. In fact, as it is currently written, the article falls well short of
121: 48:, but without prejudice for recreation of sources can be found. If anybody finds sources and wants to re-create, feel free to contact me for the text of the deleted article. 369: 349: 258:). If this makes the band notable, ok then. By the way, as of december 2005 (after 12 years from the establishment), this band had no more than 5 (five) concerts! ( 530:. Until June 2007, it was the largest independent record label in the UK and the largest independent music management company in the world. So, the band pass 204:
then; I'm trusting the nom's judgment regarding the utter lack of sources here. This is a pretty good example of how WP:MUSIC isn't chiseled in stone.
17: 448:) How many of these have actually been cited in the article (and not just dumped into a list of links at the bottom of the page)? 500: 88: 83: 92: 231: 75: 558: 36: 496: 53: 340:- but this article still needs more fixing work , a tag over the article will be enough . seems to be notable . 557:
Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a
365: 345: 519: 188: 49: 534:, line 5 - Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels. - 543: 504: 483: 457: 436: 329: 310: 287: 268: 235: 214: 192: 174: 162: 134: 57: 388: 79: 325: 278:- they are one of the pioneers of industrial gothic metal in that part of the Europe (ex Yugoslavia). 184: 205: 153: 423: 361: 341: 71: 63: 531: 463: 294: 145: 466:- Has released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels - 527: 523: 471: 418: 29:
The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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They seem to have had multiple releases on notable labels, thus satisfying criterion #5 of
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http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&sql=10:hpfqxqehldje~T1
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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for a consensus to be reached . needs more editors to comment .
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http://www.platinum-celebs.com/song/324405/across-the-universe/
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information about notable Slovene bands and musicians online.
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http://www.adp.fdv.uni-lj.si/kiber/texts/ravesu/ravesu.html
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http://www.aracnet.com/~jester/review/coptic.rain-2.html
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http://www.aracnet.com/~jester/review/coptic.rain-1.html
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http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200226/clanek/plosce-02/
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http://www.mladina.si/tednik/200116/clanek/plosce-04/
168:Yes, there are no independent reliable sources. -- 39:). No further edits should be made to this page. 561:). No further edits should be made to this page. 409:http://www.studiod.si/si/novice/glasba/?oid=4451 320:without prejudice for recreation with sources. 297:as it makes no real attempt to demonstrate it. 384:http://www.wrappedinwire.com/C/CopticRain.htm 8: 301:unless the article is "upgraded" to comply. 152:in the sourcing department right now. 379:- Independent sources of the article: 18:Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion 7: 24: 128:Not notable, underground band. 148:. However, I'm coming up with 1: 522:. Noise Records is a part of 578: 544:16:23, 23 March 2008 (UTC) 505:11:54, 23 March 2008 (UTC) 484:19:51, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 458:19:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 437:18:28, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 370:13:38, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 350:13:35, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 330:13:33, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 311:04:45, 22 March 2008 (UTC) 288:18:58, 18 March 2008 (UTC) 269:10:42, 16 March 2008 (UTC) 236:07:10, 16 March 2008 (UTC) 215:15:53, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 193:16:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 175:13:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 163:11:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 135:10:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC) 58:21:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC) 256:Rockobrobje/Rock's Fringe 554:Please do not modify it. 32:Please do not modify it. 520:Noise Records (Germany) 497:Pharaoh of the Wizards 224:Matthew Brown (Morven) 254:style of music." ( 528:Universal Records 524:Sanctuary Records 472:Machinery Records 212: 160: 50:Sarcasticidealist 569: 556: 446:reliable sources 210: 208: 207:Ten Pound Hammer 158: 156: 155:Ten Pound Hammer 119: 113: 95: 44:The result was 34: 577: 576: 572: 571: 570: 568: 567: 566: 565: 559:deletion review 552: 206: 181:All Music Guide 179:What about the 154: 115: 86: 70: 67: 37:deletion review 30: 22: 21: 20: 12: 11: 5: 575: 573: 564: 563: 547: 546: 508: 507: 489: 488: 487: 486: 460: 381: 380: 373: 372: 354: 353: 333: 332: 315: 314: 313: 272: 271: 245: 244: 239: 238: 217: 211:and his otters 199: 198: 197: 196: 195: 159:and his otters 126: 125: 66: 61: 42: 41: 25: 23: 15: 14: 13: 10: 9: 6: 4: 3: 2: 574: 562: 560: 555: 549: 548: 545: 541: 537: 533: 529: 525: 521: 518:is a part of 517: 513: 510: 509: 506: 502: 498: 494: 491: 490: 485: 481: 477: 473: 469: 465: 461: 459: 455: 451: 447: 443: 442: 441: 440: 439: 438: 434: 430: 426: 425: 421: 420: 416: 415: 411: 410: 406: 405: 401: 400: 396: 395: 391: 390: 386: 385: 378: 375: 374: 371: 367: 363: 359: 356: 355: 352: 351: 347: 343: 339: 335: 334: 331: 327: 323: 319: 316: 312: 308: 304: 300: 296: 291: 290: 289: 285: 281: 277: 274: 273: 270: 267: 266: 261: 260:Radio Študent 257: 252: 247: 246: 241: 240: 237: 233: 229: 225: 221: 218: 216: 209: 203: 200: 194: 190: 186: 182: 178: 177: 176: 173: 172: 167: 166: 165: 164: 157: 151: 147: 143: 139: 138: 137: 136: 133: 132: 123: 118: 111: 107: 103: 99: 94: 90: 85: 81: 77: 73: 69: 68: 65: 62: 60: 59: 55: 51: 47: 40: 38: 33: 27: 26: 19: 553: 550: 511: 492: 427: 422: 417: 412: 407: 402: 397: 392: 387: 382: 376: 362:Pearll's sun 357: 342:Pearll's sun 337: 336: 317: 298: 275: 264: 250: 219: 201: 170: 149: 141: 140: 130: 127: 45: 43: 31: 28: 495:As per nom. 462:What about 251:Coptic Rain 72:Coptic Rain 64:Coptic Rain 322:Blast Ulna 185:Punkmorten 142:Weak keep 532:WP:MUSIC 516:Dynamica 468:Dynamica 464:WP:MUSIC 295:WP:MUSIC 265:Eleassar 171:Eleassar 146:WP:MUSIC 131:Eleassar 122:View log 512:Comment 377:Comment 220:Comment 89:protect 84:history 536:J3az6u 493:Delete 476:J3az6u 450:B.Wind 429:J3az6u 358:relist 318:Delete 303:B.Wind 299:Delete 280:J3az6u 202:Delete 150:bupkis 117:delete 93:delete 46:delete 120:) – ( 110:views 102:watch 98:links 16:< 540:talk 501:talk 480:talk 454:talk 433:talk 366:talk 346:talk 338:Keep 326:talk 307:talk 284:talk 276:Keep 262:) -- 189:talk 106:logs 80:talk 76:edit 54:talk 213:• 161:• 542:) 514:- 503:) 482:) 456:) 435:) 368:) 348:) 328:) 309:) 286:) 234:) 191:) 183:? 108:| 104:| 100:| 96:| 91:| 87:| 82:| 78:| 56:) 538:( 499:( 478:( 474:- 470:/ 452:( 431:( 364:( 344:( 324:( 305:( 282:( 232:C 230:: 228:T 226:( 187:( 124:) 114:( 112:) 74:( 52:(

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Knowledge (XXG):Articles for deletion
deletion review
Sarcasticidealist
talk
21:45, 23 March 2008 (UTC)
Coptic Rain
Coptic Rain
edit
talk
history
protect
delete
links
watch
logs
views
delete
View log
Eleassar
10:13, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
WP:MUSIC
Ten Pound Hammer
11:49, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Eleassar
13:01, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
All Music Guide
Punkmorten
talk
16:03, 15 March 2008 (UTC)
Ten Pound Hammer

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