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324:, I always edit non-anonymously, but I have to point out that the suggestion that I post on Hungary for self-promotion is a little absurd. I am a university professor of cognitive science. If I post about Hungary, it has nothing to do with my line of work or my career. I do it in order to draw Knowledge readers' attention to the state of democracy in Hungary today. If there is self-promotion going on, it is by the many partisans of the current Hungarian government who keep patrolling Knowledge to delete anything critical of the current government. (I am not accusing 748: 749:
https://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&gl=us&tbm=nws&q=%22hungarian+spectrum%22&oq=%22hungarian+spectrum%22&gs_l=news-cc.3..43j43i53.1835.6685.0.7287.20.8.0.12.0.0.126.710.7j1.8.0...0.0...1ac.1.cEKSmlV6aNE#q=%22hungarian+spectrum%22&hl=en&gl=us&sa=X&ei=sjWaUYzNJLKo4APhkIDgCQ&ved=0CDAQ6wYwAA&bav=on.2,or.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.46751780,d.dmg&fp=4fb00f9413eda176&biw=1254&bih=664
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seems to be the latter. Either blogs or online publications can be notable, of course, but in this case I don't see the evidence. Google searches on their names (those references don't work on this talk page, by the way, but I did the searches myself) don't seem to make the case for their notability.
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Norden1990: That may well be, but you asked "could you give me an example, when I edit anonymously" and I replied. I am quite happy to accept your reassurance that "Norden1990" is "not member of the government or its paraselene." I also accept your (welcome) POV neutralization of the language of the
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Dear Mr. Harnad, could you give me an example, when I edit anonymously? What you are saying is not correct, formerly I also wrote about the Hungarian media law, constitution, debate in the EP, György Matolcsy's unorthodox economic policy, all of which are critical points of the Orbán cabinet. "draw
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Dear Mr. Norden1990: (1) If your name is indeed Norden1990, then I apologize. I thought it was a pseudonym. (2) The phrases you quote from me above are not from wikipedia articles but from talk pages, where I assume one can explain one's POV. My own POV on the current Hungarian government is
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is.) My postings should be left to stand, in the interests of providing balance. I am, by the way, on the Board of Directors of the Canadian-Hungarian Democratic Forum, but that too is not by way of self-promotion, but an attempt to help restore democracy in Hungary.
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taking place..." (3) I also agree now that just posting a pointer to the article in which the Fidesz/Orban/constitution/democracy developments are described is better than describing them verbatim in each article to which they are relevant.
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Knowledge readers' attention to the state of democracy", "attempt to help restore democracy in Hungary", these are all political POVs (Believe me, I am free to criticize the government and I usually done that). For the delete: The
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article. But not its deletion. For my own part, I choose to edit non-anonymously because I think people should be publicly answerable for public comments, especially comments about named individuals. (But that's just my POV...)
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against the increasingly undemocratic developments currently taking place..." to "The Charter's goal is to help support democracy in
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99% of Knowledge users edit under pseudonym name, but I can reassure you, I am not member of the government or its paraselene. --
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definitely not neutral, but I agree that the wording in the articles themselves should be from a neutral POV, so I appreciate
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is about Hungarian political system. Recent political events and statements do not belong there. We have article of
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has been quite active deleting passages in Knowledge that are critical of the current Hungarian government. Unlike
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http://www.artsjournal.com/slippeddisc/2011/12/yale-professor-hungary-could-be-going-fascist.html
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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below.
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's
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See now for citations for notability, as requested. I have added eight. Note also that
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which -- although admittedly "just" a blog -- can hardly be described as non-notable
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to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
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of being one of these Hungarian government partisans: I have no idea who
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fails WP:GNG. nothing in gnews. 3 of the supplied sources are blogs.
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The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate.
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against the increasingly undemocratic developments currently
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Besides, there is already a pointer to the WP entry for
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list of Bilateral relations-related deletion discussions
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http://www2.carleton.ca/history/people/christopher-adam
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It would not be appropriate to merge the WP entry for
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for recent events and activities of the government. --
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