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guidelines in my opinion, which overrules NSPORTS. The purpose of the NSPORTS guidelines is to supplement GNG and not to replace it (in fact the purpose is not to be authoritative in any sense as it is only an indicator of whether sources can be found), and I think that the athlete meets GNG. Also, I
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In like fashion, no modern-day women's baseball leagues are presumptively notable, no women's football leagues are presumptively notable, no women's rugby leagues are presumptively notable ... In any event, no, you don't simply get to ignore pertinent notability criteria that you don't like. This is
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The subject fails NHOCKEY, which is the pertinent sports SNG to which SPORTSPERSON directs, the subject meets none of the three elements of ANYBIO, and
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as contributing towards notability. For my part, I am at a serious loss to figure out how any editor can look at "she won gold medals at two of the World
University Games" and claim that such represented a "global senior championship" (let alone one recognized by NHOCKEY), or to have genuinely
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don't think it's very fair to say the tag was removed by "someone" without even mentioning my rationale for removing the tag (which is, again, on the talk page) when you could have pinged me by my username.
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Now the GNG sources and your statement: "at least twelve references from ten different independent secondary sources". Please note to meet GNG at least a couple of sources must meet all of the following:
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