255:-- To Evertype and BabeStone: Not being aware of something does not mean its non-existence. As the reliable academic sources backing Dr. Gábor Hosszú are mostly in "carpathian Basin" languages - eg. Hungarian -, non-speakers of this language do have seroius handicap. But this fact is not explanation for promoting (through vandalism) the erronous "Old Hungarian" or "Hungarian Runic" theories leading back to Michael Everson and his supporters. To: Dougweller: Do not sockpuppet me again! --
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and antiquity. They promote a national myth through popular cultural products, propaganda tracts, and even a semi-scholarly journal. Their social composition resembles those of other modern nationalist movements; they even have their own diaspora in North
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This article is one of a series of
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acknowledged scholars. The existence of the
Carpathian Basin Rovas inscriptions is a well-known fact in the Paleography. Please, consider that this article does not violate any rule of the Knowledge. Thanks.
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