315:. Charles has visited Ireland on a number of occasions, as have his siblings. These visits have become routine and are no longer notable. The visit by his mother, on the other hand, was historic and highly notable: she is a monarch; he is not. It is not a state visit; it is not an official visit; it is just a visit. Charles's visit is news, but not encyclopaedically notable.
261:. It is not first-hand reporting and the individual involved is notable. What's arguable is whether this is more than a routine event. "Charles, Prince of Wales's visit to the Royal Ascot, 2015" would be routine; I don't think this visit is. If the article is kept, I think "west of Ireland" should be changed to "the Republic of Ireland," and the year should be included.
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Honestly, when is the last time the royals did something and it didn't receive an intense amount of coverage? Everything that happens is technically historic; even if he visits the place of the bombing it seems something of a footnote. Like O'Dea said, it's not his first visit; he's not the head of
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