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569:"only one of many kinds" of Japanese swords. Katana is the primary kind of nihonto. The others such as wakizashi are only the shorter variants of nihonto, and were usually used together with Katana as an auxiliary sword. They all share pretty much the same origin and history. It's not like different groups of swordsmiths from different eras came up with various kinds of Japanese swords. --
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